Yeah but the she-devil Kamala supports post-birth abortions.
- a family member
they don't even fucking know what abortion means.
I wish this was an exaggeration
yeah, i mean it's obvious because they keep saying aborting babies which semantically don't make sense. abortion refers to aborting the pregnancy. post-birth abortion is an oxymoron because there is no pregnancy post-birth.
Right. They're willing to believe doctors are slitting infants' throats in order to justify their worldview. They don't even question if that's happening. A long time ago some woman on Facebook told me some absurd number of abortions that were happening every year. When I did the math, I found that if her number was true, that would mean literally on average, 40% of every woman on the planet capable of being pregnant was getting pregnant AND having an abortion. Every fucking year.
When I pointed that out to her, she basically shrugged and reiterated that it didn't matter about specifics, so many children were being murdered that it had to be the top priority to stop it.
How the fuck do you talk sense into someone willing to believe something absurd and then when basic math illustrates that the belief is absurd, they couldn't care less?
You can't logic people out of an opinion they didn't logic themselves into, or however that saying goes. these women will get their own abortion when they need it and still spit on the doctor and call the other patients whores literally on their way out of the clinic.
Yeah, I guess I was naive. I didn't expect this woman to change her whole view on the spot. But I just found it stunning that she could know she was spreading an absolute lie without a doubt and be completely unfazed
You don’t. You can’t out-crazy them with logic. It’s a fruitless endeavor.
My Catholic-ass mom reads a Catholic-ass newspaper and recently told me with complete confidence that Hillary Clinton was the "partial-birth abortion queen". How do you even have a conversation with someone who's ingested so much propaganda?
I too support post birth abortions of healthcare CEOs
"She can't even string a sentence together", said after her town hall late in the campaign.
It's like they never fucking listened to a single Trump rally.
Say what you will about Trump he can definitely string a sentence together, hell he can't help himself from stringing 20 into one.
Wouldn't opposing post-birth abortions mean more gun control?
Obama won his senate seat because his opponent had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Hillary and McCain.
Bill Clinton won the democratic primary because everyone thought Heart was going to win, then HE had an affair. Everyone said he was too young, but then he went on to beat Bush.
Al Gore, John Kerry, Hillary Clinton, and Joe Biden won their primary because "IT WAS THEIR TURN". Biden only won because Republican rigged it to suppress mail in voting, but that suppressed the wrong group in the wake of COVID. I think we all have our theories on Harris. My point: I think it is time for someone that isn't "THEIR TURN" to become our next nominee.
Biden won the highest turnout election in more than a century, and Al Gore's win was stolen by the Bush clique. This is gross reframing or even reimagining of events to suit your narrative.
Al Gore is not like the others. Yes you might say he became the nominee because it was his turn. But, he also had extremely good policy ideas that were very different from “not being Trump “.
And he won both the popular and electoral votes
All of this is just a distraction anyway. It's rich vs poor always has been. We have a huge group of people that should really be allies but are brainwashed against their own interests. It's easy to say they're on the wrong side but we should really be looking to mend the divide in ways that we can rather than further it by stating how morally superior we are.
This rich vs. poor thing would be a hell of a lot more believable if there weren't so many poor people who were gigantic fucking bigots.
How do you mend a divide between people who exist and people who hate their existence?
Agreed. It's uncanny how no news source wants to call out the class divide and instead focuses on the partisan divide
It's not that strange when you consider they are a major tool in the class war. We do still have elections, and so whoever the ownership class can't buy they need to have their outlets convince us not to vote for.
There is no "unbiased" media when it's corporate media.
Sadly, a lot of them voted for Trump because they think he's going to "fix it". The sad thing is they just trust him to figure it out once in office.
This is maybe oversimplifying things, however - I will never fully understand how somebody hears a candidate talk only about who they will hurt first, while their opposition talks about how to help the most people...and the guy who wants to increase the human suffering wins.
I mean, logically, yeah I guess I can understand. But at the same time, I will never get it. :P
I come from an immigrant family. We came legally, sure. But the fight is the same: provide a better life and better opportunities for the next generation.
It blows my mind how someone can change this to paint the immigrant as bad. All while there are American citizen business men hiring the immigrants. Go after the business men?
I don’t get it. Wouldn’t people want to look past the place of birth and look into someone’s character? Surely a person fighting for a better life for their family is more honorable than a businessman looking to cut corners.
I’ve met conservatives with such deep hatred for “illegals” that I sincerely cannot understand where they’re coming from.
The Democrats are never able to pass these things while they're in power, though.
Like yes there is Obamacare and some loan forgiveness, but it's drops in the bucket compared to what Republicans are cooking up with Project 2025
That’s not the full picture, the republicans house and senate votes have a clear history of obstructionism for the last 30 years
Just look at any vote after George HW Bush and then compare that to public sentiment about what they are voting on.
Yeah, they can get project 2025 done because they brainwashed half of society to support them.
I agree with you that Republicans have been big on obstructionism. And Democrats have never taken serious steps to deal with it, because corporate Democrats like the obstructionism. They want to pretend to be left wing, but if they actually had to pass left-wing policies, that would piss off their corporate funders. Obviously this is a vast simplification, but I think the best example was Obama pushing for the ACA instead of NHS. You can argue that it would have been hard to get NHS through, but it would have solved the problems that are even bigger now than they were 10 years ago. No way big pharma was going to allow that. There's too much money to be made when you sell insurance and then allow your customers to die anyway.
Nah I think a lot of people would also be gloating, like obviously fuck trump, Kamala would have been better, they'd be gloating too
Only reason Kamala was better is the simple fact she isn't actively trying to overthrow the government
Nah Lemmy would be bitching about Biden not cancelling student loan debt despite Trump judges being the ones blocking it.
“Status quo” wasn’t enough to get people off their asses. Well, we’re about to see the opposite of that. Congrats.
Biden gave it a shot, got stymied, and walked away. Hey, a weak attempt is better than nothing, but we sure would have liked to see him try harder. I don't blame him for failing, but he certainly didn't give it his all.
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