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[–] DamarcusArt@lemmygrad.ml 12 points 3 hours ago

It kind of makes me wonder if the US elite know something we don't. This kind of stripping the copper out of the walls only makes sense in a country facing complete collapse. I can't imagine the "deep state" would let this stuff happen unless they also benefit from it.

[–] Cimbazarov@hexbear.net 11 points 3 hours ago

It is still kind of wild to me that he can just do this with no repercussions. The democrats doing nothing is actually so embarrassing now. At least in the first Trump presidency their excuses made some sense and what Trump was doing wasn't collapsing the country. But now its just so blatant. They literally don't want to do anything outside the "norms" while the norms are being ripped apart by the Republicans and Musk. Like what is the point of keeping to the norms? Do any of them ask themselves this.

I mean like some others have said, the Democrats stand for nothing. It makes sense that won't do anything.

[–] CleverOleg@hexbear.net 44 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (1 children)

I gotta be honest, I thought DOGE was only ever gonna be some little toy for Musk to play with that had no real power. Didn’t think it would just take over an actual department and start doing real damage, I was really wrong on that one.

[–] EnsignRedshirt@hexbear.net 11 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

I mean, it's only real insofar as Trump is allowing it to be real. It would evaporate instantly if Trump played golf with someone who said it made him look like a loser. Musk isn't actually doing anything, he's just taking credit for things that are being done. If I didn't know better, I'd think Musk was being set up as the scapegoat for when all of this quickly and inevitably falls apart.

American bit idea: everyone gets more racist when a South African becomes the scapegoat for the failures of government.

[–] RedCheer@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 4 hours ago

First they came for Twitter, …

[–] Khoryphos@hexbear.net 92 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Imagine if some DOGE incel accidentally cuts off Raytheon and their whole team gets black bagged lmao

[–] Comrade_Mushroom@hexbear.net 53 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

I hope that what I think could happen as a result of this does in fact happen

illegal-to-say

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 3 points 3 hours ago

I hope there's video

[–] Justice@lemmygrad.ml 66 points 9 hours ago (3 children)

Well, we'll know sooner than I ever imagined how many CIA/FBI have the balls of their forefathers.

Apparently Trump is firing a fuckload of FBI agents. Of course I shed no tears over such things... but his buddy RFK Jr should've probably told him what happened to his uncle (and father, I suppose) when he started targeting such agencies.

It's also just annoying that they do this in the most liberal (but more rightwing flavor) ways possible. "Nooo they targeted my precious boys on Jan 6!" For the record, I don't think (most) of those dipshits deserved the sentences they got. I wasn't exactly crying for them, but if we're being real... shitting on Pelosi's desk should get you an award. The Proud Boy fascist-style leader and such, well, it was a convenient reason to get rid of them.

Either way, this is the stupidest possible pretext to destroy the US "security apparatus." Not that I think he's actually doing that or trying to do that. More than likely this is for show or he's a moron (or both). Still, firing a huge percent of FBI and presumably digging into the asses at DHS, NSA, CIA, etc. is going to undermine what they're doing. Intended or not.

It's like cutting USAID because "it doesn't benefit Americans." Well, it does (capitalists anyway), but I do wonder, again, if Elon/Trump are too fucking stupid (again... yes...) to actually know what "soft power" is.

Well, either way, it's about to insanely boring or the opposite of that in the next year or so.

Between the tariffs which are obviously going to blow the backs out of millions of people, the incoming labor shortage because they chose deportation over amnesty and fair pay, and shit like just one by one destroying government "welfare" (in different forms) programs, the suffering knob is being turned up for absolutely zero reason when the other option is, I dunno... accept multipolarity and negotiate with China. Draw down the military presence. Stop whining about the border and making shit up about it. No, no, no... turn the pain knob. Isolate while simultaneously trying to increase imperialism. Seems sustainable...

Well, we’ll know sooner than I ever imagined how many CIA/FBI have the balls of their forefathers.

Taken literally this would lead USA to establish eunuch court.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 48 points 7 hours ago

It's like cutting USAID because "it doesn't benefit Americans." Well, it does (capitalists anyway), but I do wonder, again, if Elon/Trump are too fucking stupid (again... yes...) to actually know what "soft power" is.

Musk bought one of the biggest consent manufacturing mechanisms in the US and he drove it into the ground. He couldn't even subtly make himself more popular by elevating posts about him, he needed to shove his own posts in front of everybody's face. Dude has no idea what he's doing.

[–] viva_la_juche@hexbear.net 40 points 8 hours ago

Well, we'll know sooner than I ever imagined how many CIA/FBI have the balls of their forefathers.

timmy-pray

[–] picklemeister@hexbear.net 43 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

color revolution of usa incoming

[–] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 15 points 5 hours ago

Let's hope it's Red.

[–] Mindfury@hexbear.net 43 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (2 children)

yeah, defaulting on your innumerable small liabilities seems like a good idea

real business brain

[–] blunder@hexbear.net 10 points 6 hours ago

Honestly it just works, what are they gonna do?

Seen this shit from small businesses to the US govt. It's not like Lockheed is gonna shut down a contract

[–] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 26 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Also contract law is one of the things a conservative court isn’t going to overturn on behalf of trump and musk lol

I've interacted with contracts during my time at Langley monitoring leftists that would make nonpayment on what you owe a fucking paradise.

If you say that you're owed 5% interest on an account you're already loving life. If you have a break clause that entitles you to dues you're loving life. If they've made a down payment, you're owed 5% interest, and you have a break clause then your cost margins just went to 0 and you can wait 2 years to sell the debt to someone else and you're loving every minute of it, Jerry.

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 81 points 9 hours ago

Don’t pay your mercenaries

[–] SovietBeerTruckOperator@hexbear.net 59 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 44 points 8 hours ago

Extremely critical support to the CIA assassination of Elon Musk.

[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 36 points 8 hours ago

It seems like letting Musk run rampant in the core of the dollar system would be a stronger signal of the inherent risk in that system than anything that has come before (like stealing Russian accounts, etc). I guess until there is another option available, most of the closest US allies will just have to go for the ride.

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 42 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

These DOGE pests need to be removed. Democrats are so pathetic for letting them run free. Where are the large-scale protests? Nothing is happening.

[–] kilgore_trout@feddit.it 4 points 4 hours ago

Go out and protest.

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 67 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

He cut off payments to a Lutheran charity. nicholson-yes

... That helps resettle refugees. agony-immense

These freaks are all about church being the charity that should take the role of government social services... Then they cut them off. Fucking ghouls.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 67 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

In western spirituality there are only two rules:

  1. Don’t be a woman
  2. Don’t be queer
[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 49 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)
  1. Don't be a PoC
[–] Dessa@hexbear.net 35 points 9 hours ago
[–] freagle@lemmygrad.ml 58 points 9 hours ago

It's like the night of long knives but the commercial version

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 59 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Learning from Trump stiffing contractors all through the 80s and 90s then.

[–] Tabitha@hexbear.net 27 points 8 hours ago

so-true GENIUS business man!

[–] CredibleBattery@hexbear.net 31 points 9 hours ago

The nedleB rules: don't pay your guys, this only works if you're american — because you have plot armor

[–] tactical_trans_karen@hexbear.net 60 points 10 hours ago

Except to himself no doubt. Is he like, a super villain that just stole all the fed's money or something.