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As Donald Trump stood in the Capitol Rotunda last week, blundering his way through his second oath of office, online liberals were preoccupied with debating another matter: who will be the first Democrat to call Republicans the R-word? Setting aside the question of whether they should use a term widely considered an ableist slur, that very debate was revealing, for a number of reasons.

On the morning of inauguration day, #DarkWoke began trending on Twitter/X. The hashtag – ostensibly a tongue-in-cheek reference to “Dark Brandon” – emerged in reaction to an exchange between the Democratic congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and the far-right influencer Chaya Raichik.

Over the weekend, Ocasio-Cortez posted an Instagram Reel in which she explained her lack of interest in attending any inaugural festivities. “I don’t celebrate r[*]pists,” she says bluntly. Raichik, whose social media account @LibsofTikTok is widely recognized for proliferating the anti-LGBTQ+ “groomer” moral panic, shared the video, declaring “another person Trump should sue”.

The congresswoman then retweeted Raichik, stating: “Oh, are you triggered? Cry more.” The post accrued more than 17m views, and in the process it birthed both a meme and a debate about Democrats’ approach to messaging for the next four years.

Should liberals start using slurs? No – and anyone who seriously entertains such a question has no business crafting comms strategy. It’s clear that Democrats’ current approach to messaging, however, is broken – and party leaders have no conception of how to fix it.

Yahoo News: What is Dark Woke & should the left embrace it? An explainer

In a lot of ways, this feels like the core of what’s behind Dark Woke — treating MAGA the exact same way they’ve been treating everyone else. And if that means kicking civility to the curb, then so be it. Sorry, Michelle Obama, they went low and we’re meeting them right there in the dirt.

But it’s entirely possible to embrace Dark Woke without becoming a wannabe edgelord who’s lost the plot. As one person on X pointed out, it’s kind of even an internet-centric repackaging of punk.

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[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 47 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

mEsSaGiNg jokerfied yes thats exactly what these wimps need to focus on jfc

One could dismiss the whole affair as black-pilled shitposting – aimless, nihilistic musings from a despairing online left. It would be a mistake for Democrats to come to this conclusion.

These fuckers BETTER NOT try to coopt our black-pilled shitposting or I'm gonna lose it

[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Blackpilled shitposting is not revolutionary action and therefore fair game for recuperation

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago (1 children)

But.... But I thought posting was praxis oooaaaaaaauhhh

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Agitating and educating is praxis, shit posting is not.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Idk if I'm not getting it but I was joking?

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, but some people aren't.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (7 children)

That's ridiculous that people would think shitposting is praxis... Have there been actual strugglesessions over that before? I feel like there have been

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Shit posting is praxis if it helps build community and provides folks with a safe outlet. I will die on this hill.

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Oooo looks like I'll be the one to start a struggle sesh dean-malice

On one hand, an argument against it could be that one isn't necessarily "doing anything" intentionally by shitposting; like the aim in and of itself isn't to radicalize people I would think. And if the buck stops there in terms of what someone is offering in terms of praxis, then its just shitposting. But shitposting is part of what kept me around here, the combo of levity and serious politics. I didn't really know much about Lenin, Stalin, or Mao and I learned a bunch about them here and started reading theory and books suggested by people here. So I'd say there's a peripheral effect that can get people to be more curious and further radicalized, but its not like, direct action or whatever. So I can see it from both sides, I think. Anyway that's it for me lol

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

My main argument is that rest is praxis if you're also doing praxis other than rest. Folks who think that only work is praxis are capitalism brained

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 5 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Makes sense, kinda similar to my thought that it can be praxis if its not the ONLY "praxis" you're engaging in. I hadn't thought of rest being praxis, when I think of praxis I think of it being an intentional action with a desired outcome. Which i guess rest is or can be, but then doesn't that mean that most things could be considered praxis though? (Genuine question)

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

I'm more talking about people who think being a leftist is shit posting on the internet.

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[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

It doesn't matter what dems messaging is because no one believes them and won't until they actually do anything for anyone that isn't bipartisan ghoul shit. Of course that isn't going to gappen because that's their whole purpose

[–] ratboy@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago

Exactly my point! I feel like I've seen multiple articles since Trump's inauguration that are talking about how they are so stumped as to how to reach the average voter like STOP FUCKING TALKING AND DO SOMETHING no one gives a shiiiiiit about your messaging, that should be painfully obvious, but the best you can do is manufacture a hashtag? Cmonnnnn

[–] prole@hexbear.net 44 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Fuck this confused me. I genuinely hate journalists who don't just write the fucking words instead of "r-word". Took me a long time to realize AOC called Trump a removed (person who sexually assaults others) and not an actual slur

[–] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Oh yeah that’s a big fucking difference

[–] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 19 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

who will be the first Democrat to call Republicans the R-word? Setting aside the question of whether they should use a term widely considered an ableist slur

This section was, in fact, about the ableist slur. The term for a sexual assaulter only comes into the article later, and is not called the r-word or censored.

[–] prole@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Yeah, I was confused by the copied text in the OP because the word AOC used was changed into "removed" I think? Then it was edited to use an asterisk instead.

[–] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

The confusion is definitely the shitty journalist's fault, because the article is about AOC calling him out for his sexual assault but the journalist opened with a random tweet about democrats calling republicans the r-word, a thing that exists entirely in the imagination of the tweeter

[–] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 40 points 3 months ago (2 children)

How will calling Republicans the r-word reduce homelessness and unemployment?

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

We'll see sweaty that's actually impossible to do so instead we have to do what we can, and that's finding ways to bring back slurs

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)
[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (1 children)

They mean r*pist not brace's favorite slur

[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The article quoted in the OP begins by talking about the former unless my reading comprehension is completely failing me

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago

Could be mine failing me

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 38 points 3 months ago

10,000 Palestinians dead: Does the left need to loosen up on woke?

100,000 Palestinians dead: How do we find a Joe Rogan for the left?

500,000 Palestinians dead: Hey have y'all heard about #DarkWoke?

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 27 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Dark Woke sounds like Dirtbag Left but for lanyards

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[–] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The congresswoman then retweeted Raichik, stating: “Oh, are you triggered? Cry more.”

clark-kent-stare

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 20 points 3 months ago

Please make it stop

[–] x87_floatingpoint@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

After throwing trans people under the bus, I guess now they want to show they don't give a damn about mentally disabled people either. Democrats keep democratting.

No improve material conditions only-throw only do whatever this is only-throw

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 12 points 3 months ago (2 children)

After throwing trans people under the bus, I guess now they want to show they don't give a damn about mentally disabled people either. Democrats keep democratting.

No, they meant the other r-word. As in sex crimes.

[–] MuinteoirSaoirse@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago (1 children)

who will be the first Democrat to call Republicans the R-word? Setting aside the question of whether they should use a term widely considered an ableist slur

No this section very definitely is talking about using the ableist slur. The r-word for sexual assaulters is not censored in the article since it is not considered a slur.

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

Oh. I misread that, then. You're right.

[–] x87_floatingpoint@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

Oh. I guess that's less bad. (Though of course, it's pathetic to see them trying to act tough after completely surrendering to Trump over the course of the last months and refusing to wield any political power for something good. Only for perpetrating the most evil acts of this century and sending more military funding to the zionists.)

[–] Orcocracy@hexbear.net 22 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Is dark woke a 2020s reboot of the 2010s dirtbag left?

[–] FunkyStuff@hexbear.net 15 points 3 months ago (1 children)

First as flatulence, and then as fart.

[–] volcel_olive_oil@hexbear.net 6 points 3 months ago

shart rhetoric kelly

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 21 points 3 months ago
[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 18 points 3 months ago

kill all CEOs #darkwoke

[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 16 points 3 months ago (1 children)

And here I was hoping this was gonna be a rebranding of the Black Panthers’ tactics.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 4 points 3 months ago

I need to read more stuff from Black Panther leaders. Especially as a western leftist it only makes sense to read stuff from people who actually learned to survive living with the beast itself.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago

more like #DorkWank

boom. gottem.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 months ago

Democrats better not reclaim white genocide.

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 14 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Honestly, I do think there's SOME merit in the idea of them acting uncivil. Like, there was a noticeable bump in the Democratic campaign when Tim Walz called Republicans weirdos, to the point that it actually seemed like they were going to win. But then, the Democratic brass told him to stop, the campaign was more of the same, and then, they lost horribly.

But don't use the r-slur, come on...

[–] SpiderFarmer@hexbear.net 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You now have me convinced Dems are going to run on being anti ADA to appeal to the right more and be "big-tent".

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[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 13 points 3 months ago

Gaza gave the dems their first experience of what campaigning around explicit racism feels like, like Republicans they're now addicted to lashing out at minorities

They desperately want to re-triangulate themselves so they can claim the mantle of the premier American conservative party, but Republican racism and bigotry is so extreme and explicit they don't know how to craft racist messaging without sounding identical to republicans, which is socially embarrassing for them

So they affect apathy and put out feelers like this #DarkWoke trash

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[–] WIIHAPPYFEW@hexbear.net 9 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

The Dems are still led by the same consultants who worked for motherfucking Hillary Clinton in 2016 so they absolutely fucking won’t lmfao

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[–] DinosaurThussy@hexbear.net 7 points 3 months ago

They’re gonna try to podcast their way out of it

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