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The idea feels like sci-fi because you're so used to it, imagining ads gone feels like asking to outlaw gravity. But humanity had been free of current forms of advertising for 99.9% of its existence. Word-of-mouth and community networks worked just fine. First-party websites and online communities would now improve on that.

The traditional argument pro-advertising—that it provides consumers with necessary information—hasn't been valid for decades.

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[–] the16bitgamer@programming.dev 5 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

As someone who had designed and attempted to sell things. On of my key takeaways has always been the lack of awareness or knowledge of my things exists.

Granted if I put a 50ft build board in the sky it wouldn’t change much. But if I did more than I did.. or am doing it would help.

I saw a metaphor in this thread comparing advertising to Smoking. But I think Sugar is a better comparison. Is it needed? No. But a little will go a long way, and some dishes wouldn’t exists without it. Add to much and it ruins the flavour of the dish and isn’t healthy for the consumer.

What is needed is balance and where everything has hyper sugar in it isn’t good for anyone. So I do we need a rethink, but eliminating it outright isn’t the solution.

[–] vuks@lemmy.world 2 points 32 minutes ago

I'm yoinking that sugar analogy, explains the issue really well!

[–] n7gifmdn@lemmy.ca 2 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

You'd put a lot of people out of work.

[–] frezik@midwest.social 1 points 4 minutes ago

A lot of people have jobs that aren't really necessary, and exist so that the working class doesn't revolt too hard under capitalism.

[–] Litebit@lemmy.world 5 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I think some kind of mix approach, example some countries ban some kind of advertising. Advertising medical prescription drugs and treatments is illegal in some countries.

Alternatively companies should pay me to watch their advertisements. Organize events to pay people to watch their advertisement.

With smart glasses AR and AI we should be able to block out all billboard, posters or it could go the opposite way glasses show all kind of adverts.. hmm. We need open source AR smart glasses with adblock.

[–] FinishingDutch@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I’m definitely in favor of a ban of advertising in public spaces. Spaces that are owned by the collective ‘us’ should remain free of it. Like public squares, roadways, public transit, etc. Those should be commercial free.

A total ban would be wildly difficult and impractical. It would also widen certain gaps like the rural-urban divide. How would someone in a rural area know an iPhone exists, if the nearest store is a hundred miles away? Or other products that might be beneficial to them?

I live in a city of 160.000 people. And even here, we simply don’t have every store or every product available. Advertising broadens that horizon considerably.

[–] daepicgamerbro69@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

then you would have illegal advertising

[–] ZMoney@lemmy.world 8 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Sao Paolo did this in 2006.

Under the cult of the "Invisible Hand of the Free Market", the prevailing ideology of neoclassical economics and the modern global economy, advertising is not necessary. Why should a firm have to convince me to buy anything if the market dictates prices and the flow of commodities? Yet here we are.

[–] fermuch@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago

How did it go? Why did they stop it?

[–] Robbity@lemm.ee 21 points 5 hours ago

People talk about tech giants, but Facebook and Google are actually advertising giants. They pour much more money into their advertising than they do into r&d.

Many brands have a cost structure where, for each product sold, more money goes to advertising than to the person who actually made the product. Sometimes 2 or 3 times more. That's where the battle for attention is taking us, a place where attention from customers is worth much more than the effort of the worker.

None of this is inevitable, advertising should be heavily taxed and regulated.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 9 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Los Angeles county vs Orange county.

LA allows billboards, OC doesn't. It just feels so much cleaner and like a breath of fresh air as you drive from LA into OC.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 hour ago

Same with Maine, state banned billboards. Makes it super weird when you head south and get assaulted by them in Mass

[–] peaceful_world_view@lemmy.world 4 points 3 hours ago

I refuse to watch all advertising.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I would like meaningful regulation on advertising. Something to the effect of "STOP BLASTING MY FACE WITH ADS EVERY CHANCE YOU GET YOU SCUMFUCKERS"

There is a gas station nearby who runs non-stop unmutable ads. I don't go to that gas station anymore.

[–] sfu@lemm.ee 7 points 4 hours ago

I HATE when I am forced to watch commercials, in front of my face on the gas pump, while I am pumping gas into my vehicle. I should really get a discount on my gas for that.

[–] synicalx@lemm.ee 27 points 8 hours ago

It should be text only, purely factual, and very limited.

“We are blah, selling blah for $x, at $location”

[–] eugenia@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago

No, advertising is useful to small businesses and big. What needs to happen, is actual thoughtful regulation, as with everything else.

I concur.

Some places limit advertising more than others. Banned on footpaths and dangerous spots. What about sales persons? How do you brand a product? I think it would have to be well defined.

I am ok with technical information being provided by a staff member. So much shit is peddled through marketing. As the scientist designing the product, I want to tell them the truth, customers love the truth, in this regard. I think banning deception and conning further would be a good way. And fuck this debt model of economics. And how about universities turn back into noble education organisations, not cocksucking psuedo-businesses.

I think govts/politicians like keeping the vague open because they use it, too. Their propaganda departments are cucked with good fact checking teams.

[–] midori_matcha@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

"THE JOY OF NOT BEING SOLD ANYTHING"

[–] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 8 hours ago

Freedom from mind flaying (advertising) !

[–] PunkRockSportsFan@fanaticus.social 37 points 10 hours ago (1 children)
[–] zqps@sh.itjust.works 16 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

I've always thought of it as waste of our mental resources. But pollution describes it even better.

Pollution specifically engineered by psychologists to maximize its impact.

Emotional pollution Mind pollution SOUL POLLUTION

[–] Etterra@discuss.online 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Oh what a world. But it would NEVER happen. Might as well wish for super powers.

[–] okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Certain types of advertising is illegal where I'm from. In particular: political adverts of any kind, and ads that target children.

[–] lka1988@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago (1 children)
[–] denshi@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 1 hour ago

No idea where they live but here in Germany ads for political parties are severely limited except during the months leading up to an election and advertising aimed a children is harshly regulated.

[–] RoyaltyInTraining@lemmy.world 70 points 12 hours ago (8 children)

The economy should exist to serve real needs of the people. All that advertisement does is create a fake desire for consumption which simply wastes respurces.

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 38 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Advertising is illegal in São Paulo. At least, outdoor advertising is illegal.

No ads

Look closely -- what don't you see?

[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 10 points 9 hours ago (1 children)
[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Tja@programming.dev 2 points 5 hours ago

Geraffes are dumb. Stupid long horses.

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[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 14 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Pretty dumb article if you spend more than a second thinking about this issue.

The entire historical premise that we "didn't have ads" is so fucking incorrect and reeks of appeal to nature. Yeah we didn't have tv ads but we had monarchs and elite that played the same role. How is paying of some sleezy high up salesman is different from a Google search ad? If anything the latter is more ethically apt.

I'd take democracy with ads over whatever the fuck that alternative timeline that polices "unpaid word of mouth"

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