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submitted 1 year ago by TheJims@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

Members of white supremacist and antisemitic hate groups marched outside Orlando, Florida, on Saturday screaming invectives, raising the Nazi salute, and yelling “Heil Hitler” and “white power.”

“We are everywhere!” neo-Nazis can be heard shouting in a video shared by former Florida House of Representatives member Anna V. Eskamani. Later in the footage, they yelled, “Heil Hitler” while performing a Nazi salute.

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[-] Cleverdawny@lemm.ee 126 points 1 year ago

The m249 machine gun has a cyclic rate of fire of at least 650 rounds per minute with a sustained rate of fire exceeding 100 rounds per minute. From a stable firing position and with the aid of a bipod, it is possible to accurately lay down sustained suppressing fire on a mass of targets at will, providing that spare barrels and ammunition containers are at hand.

Unrelated, just thought I'd post some trivia

[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 72 points 1 year ago

I prefer mockery; to quote Mel Brooks:

If you stand on a soapbox and trade rhetoric with a dictator you never win ... That's what they do so well: they seduce people. But if you ridicule them, bring them down with laughter, they can't win. You show how crazy they are.

[-] foggy@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

I've been saying for years that you cannot win a bad faith argument in good faith.

When Tucker Carlson inevitably runs for president, nobody should converse with him, at all, without mentioning the fact that he doesn't have enough testosterone to grow a decent beard.

Just emasculate him.

Fight in bad faith. You do no win a bad faith argument in good faith.

Edit: for clarity, if he did end up growing a decent beard, you then make fun of him for being such a pussy that he grew a beard to try to shut people up about his low testosterone. "What a sensitive pussy."

This is how they fight. It's easy to do.

Agreed.

To drive home the point further, as a member of a great extinct species once said,

Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters... Their silence is your answer.

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[-] Melkath@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

Yes. Or... you know, shoot them.

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[-] Railing5132@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago

"Make Shooting Nazis in the Face Normal Again"

I mean, we did have a 4-year long federally-funded convention for that back in the early 1940s. I’d like to see us bring that sort of energy back.

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[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

"We are everywhere" -> "literally dozens of us"

Any time a loser wants to feel like less of a loser they need only look at this loser and realize that they are, comparatively speaking, not a loser at all

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 89 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Not defending the nazi loser, and I know it's uncomfortable to admit, but he's not wrong, they are everywhere - in the police and other agencies, working in prisons, in the "justice" system, in government..
They're not all as loud as him, but if you think they're not in and around every point of power in society, you haven't been paying attention.
White supremacy is not the shark, it's the water

[-] FordBeeblebrox@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

That’s also the troublesome bit of WW2 history the books* don’t show so much, the reich had a lot of support in America, Henry Ford and Walt Disney being notable leaders. Our history is packed full of racist and authoritarian shit of all flavors.

Still though, we rallied and put enough lead downrange to make them stop last time, as a white dude, my type need to be doing more to shame and turn out these roaches to be stomped out for good this time. Enough is enough and eugenics never ends well for anyone. Trek showed us how to be better, just gotta bulldoze this two tone chucklefuck first

*the average school curriculum, several books have been published detailing the rich history of almost but not quite overt support of the rich to the other rich/potentially useful to get more rich

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[-] Ertebolle@kbin.social 23 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sorry, didn't mean to downplay that; my point is more that if you're a gigantic loser and you have to get up and yell about how there are actually lots of other gigantic losers just like you, that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

(but yes, the classic Onion article on the subject of Nazi cops is not inaccurate)

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 14 points 1 year ago

that's not exactly coming from a position of strength.

It is though - he's empowered and encouraged to do it by the system, he literally has the full power of the state behind him.

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[-] InverseParallax@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

No, don't minimize this, there are a lot of them.

Especially some of those that work forces...

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[-] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 95 points 1 year ago

Doxx these motherfuckers. Once they lose their livelihood they will start seeing the world in a much better way

[-] Eezyville@sh.itjust.works 41 points 1 year ago

Lol. No they won't. It will just confirm their world view. They will see it as persecution because they know the truth. And they will find another way to make a living. One that doesn't rely on the opinions of the public and doesn't care for its own image.

[-] Che_Donkey@lemmy.ml 30 points 1 year ago

That's fine though, if you're too busy trying to make a living being a human piece of shit you're too busy to tell the world you are a human piece of shit.

[-] S_204@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

While this will inevitably lead to claims that the Jews who run the world are just seeking retribution, it's still exactly the right thing to do.

Shine sunlight on this scum to disinfect.

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[-] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 87 points 1 year ago

According to FL, this is a-ok for children to see and quite preferable over trans people.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

Why don't these idiots ever take in the fact that Hitler was a loser who killed himself?

[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

They're happy to copy the genocide and goose-stepping, but skip right over that bit.

If you were real Nazis - actual champions of the white race, you'd do a better job of following Hitler's example. Finish the job, you fucking posers.

[-] ElBarto@sh.itjust.works 73 points 1 year ago

We are everywhere!....... except our jobs.

[-] spez@sh.itjust.works 40 points 1 year ago

Or on our children's birthdays!

[-] Venomnik0@lemm.ee 16 points 1 year ago

Bold of you to assume that they even can see their kids.

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[-] raltoid@lemmy.world 60 points 1 year ago

Here they go again with the silent majority bullshit.

They still can't wrap their heads around the fact that they are a tiny minority.

[-] echodot@feddit.uk 20 points 1 year ago

I wish they were silent.

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[-] Rusticus@lemmy.world 55 points 1 year ago

0-2 losers. Confederates and Nazis. Losers.

[-] itsyourmom@artemis.camp 46 points 1 year ago

Wtaf? I can’t believe this is allowed to happen. The videos that were in the article showed just how tough and brave these cowards are. The leaders are the only ones actually showing their faces. The rest? Hiding behind ski masks. Fuck them. Ignorant racist pigs… start a fire then do me a favor and fall in

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[-] InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

I wonder what could be done from a open source intelligence point about them?

[-] remotelove@lemmy.ca 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Probably a ton. If they are showing their ass in public, their online profiles are probably much worse.

I would be down for a good ole public shaming website if a person's hate rhetoric is verified as true. Unfortunately, some of these people probably make a living by being a public idiot.

[-] j_roby@slrpnk.net 25 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A lot really. This is pretty much what Sedition Hunters did for Jan 6 suspects, but it's also what your local antifascist groups do behind the scenes for your local communities to keep them safer.

[-] DessertStorms@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

If the people supposedly in charge of preventing these kinds of threats were actually looking to stop white supremacists, these people wouldn't have gotten to the point they did.
I guarantee if they were BLM or generally leftist group they would have been arrested and beaten if not killed (if they even got to the point of protesting in public, and not stopped based on online activity, which these nazis absolutely will all have), not let to spew hate speech and get home in time for dinner.
Never forget - some of those that work forces are the same that burn crosses. And even those that don't actively, serve the state, that doesn't actually mind white supremacists because they serve it, and the capitalism it works for, well.

[-] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

The conservative base.

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 30 points 1 year ago

and yelling "Heil Hitler"

shorthand for DeSantis

[-] Matriks404@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Are they even educated enough to know that nazis killed americans?

[-] PotatoKat@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

2nd largest nazi rally was in the US and the nazis got their ideas for eugenics from the US. Nazis and America have closer relations than you might think

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[-] Saneless@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago

Nazis being everywhere in Florida might be surprising to some, I guess

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[-] takeda@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

That clip with Laura Loomer and then saying they don't support trump reminded me of the South Park episode where KKK were supporting the opposite side, because they knew people wouldn't associate with them.

[-] Jsocial@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

I'm not a Trekkie, but I think they nailed the red shirt thing.

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[-] Rapidcreek@reddthat.com 15 points 1 year ago

They are just actors in costume and mask. Their little cult will soon drink the Kool-aid if we're lucky.

[-] Minarble@aussie.zone 13 points 1 year ago

Prince Harry has really taken it too far this time.

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