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That’s just wild. The one silver lining to T2 is that I’m not shocked by anything anymore. It’s still outrageous, but the surprise is gone.

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[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 26 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The tall letters in all caps.
The dramatic fade to blue.
Trump standing in the middle.
The fancy font on 𝓒𝓸𝓿𝓲𝓭.

Oooh the tackiness is too much to bear

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[–] ChaoticEntropy@feddit.uk 43 points 6 days ago (1 children)

The US government really is just being vandalised.

[–] MortUS@lemmy.world 8 points 6 days ago

This is a group of people who feel they've been unfairly made fun of for too long finally getting their revenge.

[–] TheObviousSolution@lemm.ee 22 points 5 days ago (2 children)

So the narrative is COVID was a dangerous lab leak - but also, you don't have to wear a mask?

Consistency is not a strong point of these dumbasses.

[–] blind3rdeye@lemm.ee 17 points 5 days ago (3 children)

It's pretty standard to play both extremes simultaneously, and people just pick whichever they want to relate to at any given moment.

eg.

  • (such-and-such group) are lazy, but also they are taking all the jobs.
  • They are stupid, but also have secret organisations that control the world, with mind-control, and lasers that control the weather, etc.
  • They are snowflakes obsessed with inclusiveness, but also they want (target-minority-group) to take over.
  • They are against free speech; and we must silence them.

I'm sure others can think of more, and variations on those.

The enemy is both strong and weak.

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[–] Realitaetsverlust@lemmy.zip 27 points 6 days ago (24 children)

By nearly all measures of science, if there was evidence of a natural origin it would have already surfaced

Ah yes, we've already discovered everything. Science is over, everyone, let's go home.

[–] some_guy 4 points 5 days ago

That'll be a relief for high school students everywhere.

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[–] Valorie12@lemmy.world 52 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I saw a billboard outside of my city yesterday saying something like "did your loved ones really die of COVID-19?" and had some "covid is a hoax" website named on it. What a fucking dark timeline we're in.

[–] some_guy 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I overheard a guy in 2021 say to someone that his brother said, "I just came from a funeral for a friend who died from covid." The next thing the guy said was, "I told him, no, your friend died with covid, not from covid.

It really upset me. I just tried to ignore him but it actually kinda ruined my day.

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[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

It is insane how many comments here believe that humans somehow made COVID-19 in a lab and leaked it. It is obvious and clear that the critical sequences responsible for the jump to humans exist in wild type form in nature. In fact, the critical spike protein sequence is so similar between coronavirus that the antigen work which the vaccine was based upon was done BEFORE COVID-19 in Jason McClellan’s lab at Dartmouth.

This WILL happen again, and conspiracy theories that have now shut down labs and funding are likely to cause millions of lost lives next time. We got lucky and the tinfoil hats are going to guarantee we’ll be unlucky next time.

[–] HiddenLife@lemmy.world 6 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Yeah, I used to believe that too. Until I read how irresponsible these scientists were. Before the outbreak, they were planning to release an enhanced version into bat caves filled with bats to observe how the coronavirus mutated. They were infecting bats in the lab with coronavirus. Nobody said they created this from scratch, but they could have definitely helped evolution along. Even the CIA suspects it could have been a lab leak. I think the problem is that thinking it is "man-made" is hard for many, but it's not difficult to believe that the evolution of the virus was influenced by humans.

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/cia-shifts-assessment-covid-origins-saying-lab-leak-likely-caused-outb-rcna189284

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 14 points 6 days ago (3 children)

it’s not difficult to believe that the evolution of the virus was influenced by humans.

Only for the ignorant. This is how research has worked for decades. Even the CIA (who are not scientists) have "low confidence". Since when does "low confidence" mean it happened or you believe it??

All sequence data, wild type virus, and previous research history clearly show this virus existed in nature and because it is a highly mutable RNA virus, was able to infect humans. No credible scientist says otherwise. Let's be clear - if they were studying the virus in a lab and it "got out" from the lab or from the wild what difference does it make? This is NOT a man made virus and to make the leap to that is just plain ignorance.

So the ignorant human response is to shut down all research on viruses because of the fear of it being "man made". The result? When this happens again in 3 or 100 years (which it will), we will have no R&D to lean on LIKE WE DID FOR THE COVID19 VACCINE. We've ALREADY discovered a number of viruses in the wild that are likely to mutate and cause another pandemic. We should be celebrating research because the previous decade of work on antigen presentation of the spike protein gave us a vaccine in 11 months that we would otherwise likely not have EVEN TODAY.

I guess this is why ancient civilizations had human sacrifice when there was an eclipse. The stupid scared ignorant people determined public policy.

[–] lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.com 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (1 children)

Let’s be clear - if they were studying the virus in a lab and it “got out” from the lab or from the wild what difference does it make?

Firmer policies & enforcement of safety protocols? Informed selection of safety protocols?

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 5 points 6 days ago (13 children)

These things already happen to an insane degree, which is good. Others are using this argument to either jump to the conclusion that it's man made or that we should shut down all coronavirus research. There is a clear distinction between these thoughts that are being intentionally blurred by those with an agenda.

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[–] HellieSkellie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 6 days ago (2 children)

The "ANDREW CUOMO: FAILURE" at the bottom of the government site is some random shade, but I enjoy that at least. Fuck Andrew Cuomo

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 10 points 6 days ago

Yeah, fuck Cuomo, but a lot of the reasons for New York's poor performance at the start of COVID were structural issues that were out of his control.

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 11 points 5 days ago (1 children)

First this, then releasing 10000 pages worth of John F. Kennedy files. lol these are right out of the dictator's handbook to public agenda manipulation. Trump can't even do the dictator thing very well, it is such a rookie level move.

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I always wondered what it would be like to live in oppressive regimes like Russia or China. Also never thought I'd live through a pandemic. Checking all the boxes lately.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 9 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't think there's enough evidence to conclusively say that it was natural or that it was a lab leak. There is actually quite a lot of evidence that it was a lab leak, but this website looks like such BS.

There's also good evidence that Jeanne Calment was not the world's oldest woman, but was instead her mother. Also, it's well-understood that lightbulb manufacturers conspired to lower lifespans of bulbs throughout the 20th century. Just because there was a conspiracy don't mean it ain't real.

[–] nadir@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago (1 children)

The lightbulb cartell existed, but it wasn't like we could have had lightbulbs that would have lasted longer with the same efficiency and light output.

The difference between a conspiracy theory and a conspiracy is that the latter has actual evidence for it. I don't think that's the case for the lab leak "theory".

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[–] firepenny@lemmy.world 7 points 5 days ago

All those DOGE savings went to this. They really hate science and anything factual.

[–] teawrecks@sopuli.xyz 15 points 6 days ago

Why would he want his photo in the middle of that text? He's associating himself with negativity, I feel like this is marketing/propaganda 101. It honestly looks like a movie poster where he's the one leaking it.

[–] Gowron_Howard@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago

He really has to put his ugly ass face on everything.

[–] Daggity@lemm.ee 10 points 6 days ago (1 children)

So… Chinese Americans (and anyone vaguely Asian looking) the next to be sent to concentration camps?

[–] Bloomcole@lemm.ee 7 points 6 days ago (2 children)

Sinophobia was already rampant and bipartisan.
Deliberately fueled by the government.
Like the embarrassing 'spy' balloon farce as an example.

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[–] penguin202124@sh.itjust.works 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

And you'll see why 1984 won't be like "1984".

[–] some_guy 4 points 5 days ago

I got that reference. The poster they gave out a MacWorld SF in 2004 is framed on the wall right behind me in my office. Bonus: you can see my Trans Pride (for others) reflected in the glass. It's hanging in the window.

[–] turnip@sh.itjust.works 14 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (40 children)

China had a Wuhan Covid research lab with lax safety standards, is it really a conspiracy?

Usually you'd assume a high probability at least?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wuhan_Institute_of_Virology

[–] taiyang@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago (3 children)

Ok, so people not overwhelmed by the election may remember that even under Biden last year, it was suggested as a solid, if not more likely possibility. Now, their position ultimately was "we don't think we'll ever find the truth" but I think part of that is also knowing that finding out is generally not with the trouble.

Naturally Trump doesn't care about truth or being nuanced with an "probability" of something, so they're going to be a bit more definitive.

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[–] CluelessCalls@lemm.ee 4 points 5 days ago

Regardless of where it actually came from (probably bats) this site is just propaganda.

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