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I'm not very active on Mastodon, but saw this post - browsing the bluesky hashtag for a bit afterwards did not really give me much info. I can definitely imagine enshittification happening there, but what is causing the current drama in particular?

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[–] kepix@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (3 children)

blusky users concerned with the state of twitter, mastodon users concerned with the state of blusky, lemmy concerned with the state of mastodon. you guys are so boring and shallow.

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

IRC users are in pure bliss. Last community to worry about them died of old age and the bubonic plague.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago

I atent dead

[–] moseschrute@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Who are Mbin and PieFed concerned with?

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

One of those is not like the others... Did you know Lemmy and Mastodon servers can federate with each other so users can see each others posts and comment, etc?

[–] auraithx@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There's bridges for Mastodon and Nostr to bsky too

[–] Ajen@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago

Yeah, there are even bridges for IRC and email. But those are just bridges, and since the underlying services don't use the same protocols it'll never have the same level of integration as true federation.

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 173 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (5 children)

None of these comments are correct. This is referring to an economist and semafor article. In the article, a democratic strategist said that his “moderate” candidate was bullied off bluesky.

(No doubt because he is super zionist and isn’t doing anything to protect people from trump).

Then some people quoted the article saying bluesky is dying and it got out of hand everyone started repeating it without knowing the context.

All that happened is some center right pro elite politician got criticised so much they left the platform. And now the mainstream media is trying to paint bluesky as “not inclusive” or “too radical”.

https://bsky.app/profile/vulgareconomics.bsky.social/post/3lq3bdtdgks2r

[–] dejected_warp_core@lemmy.world 63 points 2 days ago

some center right pro elite politician got criticised so much they left the platform.

Sounds like the exact right amount of inclusion and radicalism to me.

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 20 points 2 days ago (4 children)

LOL, the bsky users (blueys? skyes? bskits?) sure know how to bully people, if nothing else. I loved how they treated Adobe some weeks ago.

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[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 97 points 3 days ago (9 children)

Some people are expecting the imminent apocalypse because there's verification now. I don't think it's a bad idea to verify that somebody is who they're claiming to be but what do I know.

[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 31 points 3 days ago (2 children)

oof. is that what this is about? that's a big thing for some people - especially now.

i know what you're saying with your last sentence, but it also allows people to be tracked down and held accountable for criticizing trumps favourite things.

[–] Lumidaub@feddit.org 43 points 3 days ago (25 children)

Not like you have to be verified.

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[–] sem@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 2 days ago (1 children)

One criticism I saw was that if you want to verify, you have to use a Google Form and log in with a Google account, which goes against lots of people's efforts to get off Google.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 40 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Whether it's happening now or later, it's a corporate media site, so it's inevitably going to become enshittified and populated with AI and bots.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 18 points 2 days ago (1 children)

As an aside, was anyone else hoping the guys who got $40billion for Twitter were going to turn around and start a competitor and blow Elon out of the water?

[–] Aqarius@lemmy.world 27 points 2 days ago

The pro move would have been to spin up a mastodon instance and then star an electric car company.

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 52 points 3 days ago (8 children)

The only thing I've personally noticed is we seem to have received another burp of magas recently.

It takes very little effort to keep that shit out of your feed on Bluesky if you don't want to see it, so I usually only see the magas when they crop up in comments on George Takei posts and similar.

I'm a big proponent of the "block early and block often" mindset in the fediverse and bluesky, so I do tend to notice how much time I spend blocking magas, and I hadn't needed to do so for weeks until recently. I figured it was from 4chan imploding.

[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 17 points 3 days ago (1 children)

you can subscribe to block lists. heres an example of one that looks for MAGA stuff https://bsky.app/profile/skywatch.blue/lists/3l53cjwlt4o2s

[–] sanguinepar@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Careful with those lists though, it's not unknown for bad actors to add innocent accounts to them.

[–] Dragonstaff@leminal.space 23 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I'm on several MAGA lists because the dumber sect of Democrats can't understand that people exist to the left of them.

[–] Brandonazz@lemmy.world 10 points 2 days ago

Dare not criticize the liberal lest ye be called a conservative.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 11 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Wait, why does George takei attract magas?
Or is he just a well known & largely followed person on bluesky?

[–] wakko@lemmy.world 69 points 3 days ago (1 children)

Wait, why does George takei attract magas?

Its because he's their most prominent gay, non-white opponent. They don't like it when he reminds them he actually experienced American concentration camps before they were moved to El Salvador.

[–] towerful@programming.dev 31 points 3 days ago

Oh, you mean a decent real human? Yeh, that makes sense they would target him

[–] octopus_ink@slrpnk.net 31 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Well known, largely followed, and often roasts the Trump admin. Same with Mark Hamill. (and yes, GT being gay and open about it does not help!)

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[–] troed@fedia.io 52 points 3 days ago (3 children)

Bluesky is owned by VCs that want money back on their investment. Bluesky are saying they'll do ads.

[–] NKBTN@feddit.uk 20 points 3 days ago

I always figured ads were inevitable, but as long as there's no algorithm for me feed and no shadowbanning, I'm happy

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[–] Sekoia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (7 children)

The other comments are roughly correct in general, but the current drama is because a couple people said "Bluesky is dying" because the number of unique users that liked a post over the past 3 months has gone down (that's the Number that went down), and then a bunch of people got mad at those people because that's a single very specific measure and Bluesky is objectively doing very well and anyway they'd still use it if it wasn't popular etc etc.

Regular internet drama, basically.

[–] DomeGuy@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's not just "hey, look,.traffic is down", but rather a few.folks saying "see, traffic is down because you keep commenting negatively to politicians and journalists "

The stats are trending down, but not precipitously so and still at a level that (AFAIK) eclipses the whole fediverse. And there are plenty of journalists and politicians who engage or endure the negative feedback.

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[–] cabbage@piefed.social 34 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (2 children)

Could be referring to Bluesky's silencing of Palestinian voices.

I've seen the open letter linked in that article shared a few times on Mastodon. I'm not sure how big a deal 3000 boosts makes it on Bluesky. But browsing the thread quick and seeing it full of posts shared by the publisher of the letter being deleted is a bit worrying.

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 13 points 3 days ago (2 children)

Is it real Palestinians? Or is it the scammers taking advatage of their situation to wring money out of people? Cause theres a LOT of those on bluesky.

[–] rumimevlevi@lemmings.world 1 points 1 day ago

I don't knoe just personally none of my pro palestinian comments was removed

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[–] toy_boat_toy_boat@lemmy.world 16 points 3 days ago (6 children)

ANSWER: some people value the ability to act online without having their activities traced back to them. there are many different reasons that people may want to do this - and some are bad. this initiative seeks to fight the bad ones without any consideration to any of the other ones. a lot of people online do not want to be tracked in any way that could identify them. this change oversteps some peoples' boundaries.

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[–] Siresly@lemm.ee 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Enshittification seems inevitable what with it being based in the US and operated by someone who could just sell it or whatever. But I expect it'll take at least a while longer before I'll feel the need to bail on it like I did Twitter in 2022.

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