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Saw this on reddit-logo and it was so bad it made me break my streak of browsing and not posting

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[–] Civility@hexbear.net 61 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Ukrainians didn't "hold their pride march in a subway".

10 minutes after the 2024 Kyiv pride march started the marchers were dispersed and ordered onto trains by police in response to a large and violent right wing counter demonstration. The Ukrainian right has organised violent counter demonstrations every year since it's inception in 2012. They regularly prematurely end the march and have hospitalised dozens of marchers.

Violent crimes against queer people are not legally considered hate crimes in Ukraine. The punishment for assaulting a queer person is often just a small (less than 100 Euro) fine. The main goal of Kyiv pride is to change this.

"russian bombs" did not cause this, but they haven't helped. There are very few safe places for internally displaced LGBTQ+ people, especially those from Kharkiv and Donbass. They find it harder to find shelter and work than other IDPs, and are subject to heightened rates of physical and sexual violence.

-sources

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 22 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)
[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 12 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)
[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 16 points 1 week ago

order-of-lenin Good fucking post with a great source too.

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@hexbear.net 58 points 1 week ago (2 children)

A take so hot it got three separate drama posts on hexbear ahaha

[–] sgtlion@hexbear.net 42 points 1 week ago

There is a trifecta of awful - exploiting lgbqt+ pride, to praise Ukraine, and hating da evil 'tankies'

[–] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 29 points 1 week ago

Plasma-level take

[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 56 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You know what would be even cooler? If those pride marches could happen in the open without bombs falling from the sky because the fascist regime will sacrifice anything and anyone to please NATO.

But that's just some cringe shit those tankies with the Lenin profile pics post, let's continue ignoring it and hopefully all of Europe will be sending their kids to die fighting Russia

[–] infuziSporg@hexbear.net 1 points 6 days ago

There are a few things that Russia is targeting and I'm pretty sure the LGBT Pride march isn't one of them.

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 51 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I saw this and finally unsubscribed from me_irlgbt. It ain’t the fascist regimes shelling that are the problem, no it’s those pesky tankies debord-tired

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 31 points 1 week ago (1 children)

urge you and anyone else reading this to just stop going on reddit

[–] MusicOwl@hexbear.net 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You are so right, but i am so damn susceptible to the addictiveness of it kril-drained

[–] imogen_underscore@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

understandable, i know it's not an easy habit to break

[–] Infamousblt@hexbear.net 43 points 1 week ago

Folks I'm confused. Am I supposed to be protesting the widespread systemic issues that keep the lgbtqia+ community oppressed or am I supposed to be protesting the people who point those systems out

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 39 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Last pride parade in Kiev lasted 10 minutes because organisers decided to dissolve it when they saw nazis gathering under police protection against them. So yeah, Ukrainian LGBT quite possibly do now have to gather literally underground but not because what this nazi bootlicker said.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 39 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Estonian. Opinion discarded

[–] Redcuban1959@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Same country that had their Head of State use a fucking nafosona whatever the fuck the little dogs are called on her twitter pfp, and she had a video with cringe ass easter eggs.

[–] Sinisterium@hexbear.net 2 points 6 days ago

Estonians are literally techbros and the average reddit user.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 13 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Same country that had their Head of State use a fucking nafosona

I have no idea what this is but it sounds childish and by GUM the children ARE WRONG and FUCKED UP

[–] MolotovHalfEmpty@hexbear.net 7 points 1 week ago

NAFO fellas aren't children, despite acting like it, so that's not on them at least. A good number of them have been doxxed or doxxed themselves. They're mostly mid-thirties white Europeans, often lanyard pricks ranging from neo-con policy outfits to the main NAFO guy who is an proud avowed neo-Nazi.

[–] sleeplessone@lemmy.ml 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Probably talking about the cheems soldier edit NAFO likes to use.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 1 week ago

lol not all of ukraine is a warzone, if they're doing it underground it's because they fear their fascist regime 😂

[–] D61@hexbear.net 35 points 1 week ago

Gotta be underground because forcing them back in the closet would be too on the nose?

These people really are convinced that the only reason the US hasn't smoked Putin is because some MLs on Twitter with no political power aren't sucking Zelensky's D enough.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 26 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The biggest danger for queer Ukrainians is being rounded up and conscripted into the death machine

Honestly, this is probably how they get un-conscripted Azov and Right Sector fucks to come out of the woodwork -- announce that there's a pride march happening, and the neonazi fucks will come out of the woodwork to disrupt it. Picturing UKKKrainian draft officers waiting in the wings with comically oversized nets like an old-timey cartoon dog catcher.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 23 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The tankies with Lenin pfps have refused to endorse either nazis of Palestinian genocide, whereas the people making these posts have embraced both

That's the crazy part. Without labor not a single gear will turn. So no, there is no state stronger than an organized proletariat.