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Get in here chapos! Any memes, rants, quips, jokes you have, let's fuckin hear them! That shit is funny.

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[-] BountifulEggnog@hexbear.net 142 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There's a distinct lack of rants, so I'll toss my annoyance out there.

There were days where covid in the US was killing a 9/11 amount of people every day and so many of the chuds who act like 9/11 was the worst thing ever did not give a fuck. And it pisses me off so bad. It's the perfect "one death is a tragedy, a million a statistic" trap so many people fall into and that always pisses me off. One person dies because of weed - nation wide story. Tens of thousands die from alcohol - who gives a damn.

[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 90 points 11 months ago

My interpretation of these people is that they actually don't give a shit about anyone who died in the attacks. They pretend to, but what they're really mad about is the fact that it was a successful attack on a widely recognized symbol of United States hegemony.

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[-] neo@hexbear.net 61 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

IMO there are two reasons why the 9/11 attacks resonated. The first one is crucial for the second.

The first is that it was spectacle, literally. It is impossible to deny that the image of a large passenger aircraft flying straight into a building and exploding is simultaneously nauseating, enthralling, and "better than fiction" in the emotional response it can get out of anybody. The second reason is that once cable news had that spectacle to get their viewers, it was like chefs-kiss for them. Just play it back. Replay it. Play it again. Run that another time. Get the second angle. Get the third angle. Play it again. Play it another time. The ad money coming in at that time must've been tremendous. It was really time for the fourth estate to shine. Judith Miller can tell you all about that.

COVID deaths? No spectacle. It doesn't matter that well over a million Americans died from it, as well as millions more globally (and we still are dying, too). It's undeniable that COVID had media coverage, but it wasn't like CNN was sending in camera crews into hospitals to catch people's last gasps of air before they perished. Abstract reasoning is too hard. We need to see the explosion and the building collapse, not reason about a number.

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[-] JamesConeZone@hexbear.net 121 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Jeremiah Wright, September 16th, 2001:

I heard Ambassador Peck on an interview yesterday, did anybody else see him or hear him? He was on Fox News, this is a white man, and he was upsetting the Fox News commentators to no end. He pointed out... that what Malcolm X said when he got silenced by Elijah Mohammed was in fact true, America's chickens…are coming home to roost.

We took this country by terror, away from the Sioux, the Apache, the Arowak, the Comanche, the Arapahoe, the Navajo. Terrorism.

We took Africans from their country to build our way of ease and kept them enslaved and living in fear. Terrorism.

We bombed Grenada and killed innocent civilians, babies, non-military personnel.

We bombed the black civilian community of Panama with stealth bombers and killed unarmed teenagers and toddlers, pregnant mothers, and hardworking fathers.

We bombed Qaddafi's home and killed his child.

We bombed Iraq. We killed unarmed civilians trying to make a living.

We bombed a plant in Sudan to payback for the attack on our embassy, killed hundreds of hardworking people, mothers and fathers who left home to go that day not knowing that they would never get back home.

We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye. Kids playing in the playground, mothers picking up children from school, civilians, not soldiers, people just trying to make it day by day.

We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and Black South Africans and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America's chickens are coming home to roost.

Entire interview and sermon clip is worth watching, but this bit starts around 3:10

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 106 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

No innocent civilians in the planes or towers deserved to die in 9/11 obviously (and I hope everyone agrees here), but what I despise about the event is how the American civil religion lionised it and reacted afterwards. The attack was carried out by a US asset gone rouge and a direct result of US meddling and old school imperial conquest in the Middle East, which included killing many innocent civilians there themselves. The 9/11 attacks were not some unforeseen unprovoked event.

Then there's the response. It's quite clear that the main issue with 9/11 to American leadership was not the number of lives lost, but the fact that it was a successful attack on Americas biggest symbols symbols of global financial and military domination. It was about the message that sent. A successful attack from the "jungle" on the "garden", as old school racist imperialists would say. And how did America respond to that? By invading two countries that had nothing to do with the event, while becoming even closer allies with the country that the majority of 9/11 hijackers were from. Hundreds of thousands killed in Iraq over a lie about WMDs. Afghanistan pillaged for two decades before returning to the exact same position, Taliban rule. Osama was in Afghanistan by the time the US showed up? Yes, and I'm going to be a billionaire tomorrow. More instability, more US funded terrorist groups. The response was just to go and loot and pillage the Middle East 100 times harder with false righteous fury. Like bombing an entire neighborhood because you got mugged by one of its residents.

And that really showed the true character of the US as a country. Just how much bloodlust they had after 9/11. They just wanted to go out and kill a nation, any nation from the region would've sufficed. The were calls on national radio and TV programs for glassing and nuking the entire region. Around 75% of Americans supported the invasion of Iraq at the time. An invasion clearly based on lies. But they didn't care, they just wanted revenge. To kill someone, anyone. If you compare how the US reacted here, to how other countries reacted in the face of hardship, attacks and near civil war (see South Africa during the end of apartheid) it's clear that the character of the US is rotten deep down.

[-] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 70 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Yes it was a reaction to imperialism, but it’s even more farcical bc in this case the US trained and armed the attackers. They didn’t only create the conditions for blowback they supplied the means for its execution!

Oh well at least we learned our lesson. It’s not like we’re blindly pouring billions of dollars of weaponry directly into the hands of right wing fanatics in war zones to intentionally protract a conflict being waged by our geopolitical rivals oh wait

Jk I’m sure all that stuff will stay in Ukraine they need it. Slava ukraini

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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 55 points 11 months ago

It's such a good tweet it makes me laugh every time

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[-] DivineChaos100@hexbear.net 56 points 11 months ago

Me bagging all the muffins: Thanks, Osama.

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[-] Zrc@hexbear.net 93 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

guy who gets angry at "Bush did 9/11" memes because he views Osama bin Laden as a hero and wants him to get the credit he deserves

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[-] Tachanka@hexbear.net 90 points 11 months ago

I believe this screenshot is from genzedong or chapo. I forget.

[-] StalinForTime@hexbear.net 85 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

9/11 was proof that America is one of the most self-absorbed, narcissistic societies to ever exist. They suffer what they inflict upon others in an afternoon of ignorance or infantile righteous judgement, and they start foaming at the mouth to cry havoc and let slip the dogs of war, gloating over how they will 'send them back to the stone age'. It's sometimes difficult to put into words how repulsive Americans can be.

Does that mean that everyone who died on 9/11 had it comin? No. But the event was beyond illuminating of how America is an imperialist beast with a Narcissus complex.

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[-] LGOrcStreetSamurai@hexbear.net 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The unchecked, uncurtailed, ceaseless and boundless of expansion of the surveillance state due to 9/11 doesn’t get talked about enough. I don’t have a joke here, I am just saying it sucks so much man.

panopticon

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[-] ThereRisesARedStar@hexbear.net 76 points 11 months ago

This is the first 911 since the reddit refugees oh geez this will get messy

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 90 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I've had a shit fucking week so if I catch even a sniff of liberalism in here im just banning on site, nobody fucking test me. I'll fucking wreck you.

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[-] el_principito@hexbear.net 75 points 11 months ago
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[-] JeffBozo@hexbear.net 75 points 11 months ago

American libs when experiencing a fraction of the brutality they subjected others to: ooooooooooooooh

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[-] roux@lemmygrad.ml 74 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Q: What's the difference between 9/11 and a cow?

A: You can't milk a cow for 22 years.

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[-] Spike@hexbear.net 72 points 11 months ago

If we were still federated with the libs, this thread would be wild

[-] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 56 points 11 months ago

If any libs come in here, I've got my sights set on them with deadly precision xi-gun

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[-] cosecantphi@hexbear.net 71 points 11 months ago

lmao, I hadn't considered what impact 9/11 was going to have on federation until just now

If lemm.ee doesn't finally defederate from us over this thread, then I don't think they ever will.

[-] Ericthescruffy@hexbear.net 69 points 11 months ago
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[-] Pastaguini@hexbear.net 67 points 11 months ago

My older Cuban relatives were staying with us in NY the month of September 2001 from Havana. We actually took them to the World Trade Center a few days prior to the attacks. My principle memory of 9/11 was them laughing and celebrating and my dad getting mad at them.

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[-] ChapoKrautHaus@hexbear.net 64 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

This was a great meme back in 2011, kids.

[-] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 11 months ago

Let’s pay our respects to the victims of September 11th, 1973, when the US probably helped a coup in Chile

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[-] btbt@hexbear.net 63 points 11 months ago

Wonder if they’ve already lowered the Guantanamo Bay McDonald’s flag to half mast

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[-] TheModerateTankie@hexbear.net 62 points 11 months ago

I remember when the towers fell, and people all over the word showed sympathy and solidarity, even from "enemy" countries like Iran. Then there was hate crimes, and the ubiquitous calls for us to "glass the middle east", but those were outliars, right? Bush observed the rubble and vowed revenge and told us to not be afraid to go shopping, and then shamelessly exploited the tragedy to further US geopolitical goals and killed millions of people across the world who had nothing to do with it. No "serious" politician or pundit or average American gave a shit.

Little did I realize that the "killing millions" part was just standard operating procedure for the US, and the most important thing we can do, no matter what happens, is to uphold our duty as consumers and keep buying shit.

amerikkka

Crazy to think we used to not have to take off our shoes and empty our pockets and be body-scanned to get on a plane.

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[-] MF_COOM@hexbear.net 60 points 11 months ago
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[-] neo@hexbear.net 59 points 11 months ago

I think some of most interesting things around 9/11 are the extremely stupid side stories. Consider real estate developer Larry Silverstein who argued that the WTC attacks were two separate attacks, and therefore he was entitled to two payouts on his insurance claim.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Larry_Silverstein#Insurance_dispute

It's mundane shit like this that really gives a unique glimpse into the depravity of capitalism. The uninteresting part of this is the casually anti-Semitic implication that the insurance policy was taken because a Jewish man knew what was going to happen. That's part is just stupid antisemitism and I do think it's worth making that point clear.

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[-] HighOnCopium@hexbear.net 58 points 11 months ago

i wonder if he still likes stepmom porn

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