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[–] MeaanBeaan@lemmy.world 2 points 47 minutes ago (1 children)

Doesn't season 2 of the sandman come out in a couple weeks? Doesnt really seem like he's being boycotted.

[–] Toribor@corndog.social 3 points 29 minutes ago (1 children)

I can't tell if I'm allowed to be excited about it because I love Sandman but Gaiman is a creep.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 23 minutes ago

it's easy to complain about death of the author when you don't care about their work.

but even you do, even just enjoying it a bit, it's a bit harder.

you can pirate it, you get to enjoy it and they get no revenue from it. but then engaging with the content is free advertising, so just watch it and keep it to yourself.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

I'm so disappointed in Rowling. I loved Harry Potter and would've loved that videogame.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 1 points 22 minutes ago

i told my kids they are free to enjoy it, not were never buying official merch, want merch but from artists. or when they wanted wands, i gave them a stick, a sharp knife and supervision and they made their own.

[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 21 points 6 hours ago* (last edited 6 hours ago) (2 children)

rowling is a transphobe, but gaiman is like weinstein a sex pest. she played it carefully for decades before coming out, when she had built a large amount of fans and support, much like lewis CK, the cancelling dint end his career so to speak, he moved all online before it got worst.

also transphobia has massive support from right wingers.

[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 2 points 20 minutes ago

Rightwingers don't like Rowling because she still considers herself a feminist and uses feminism as the basis of her transphobia.

[–] Soup@lemmy.world 1 points 48 minutes ago (1 children)

“Rowling is a transphobe AND Gaiman is like a Weinstein sex pest” Fixed it for you.

She’s actively pushing hard, with a large platform, against trans people and her product is not some necessary thing but rather just a book series. It is so easy to just drop her, especially if you’re now an adult/young adult with a higher reading level and can take in better content from better people.

People need to drop her, she’s a horrid lady with incredibly mid-to-decent books and there is no excuse for hanging onto her.

[–] Anomalocaris@lemm.ee 2 points 20 minutes ago

ok.

no need to play villain Olympics, they are both horrid in different ways.

but I think the differences is that more people will be grossed out by rapy acts, than being a bigot, because there are more bigots than rapists in the public

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 12 points 7 hours ago (5 children)

If anyone is looking for some ~~good~~ fucking amazing books by an awesome and genuinely fun and good natured dude, check out Jason Pargin, he is awesome and not problematic and his books are all bangers, and he also enabled and actively supports the careers of many other super awesome and creative people. Also, listen to Bigfeets.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 2 points 1 hour ago

The tiktok guy?

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

If we're recommending authors, my favorite is Jasper Fforde. He wrote this book called Shades of Grey (which unfortunately came out around the same time as that book) that's about people who can only see one color (sorry, colour), and the hue that they can see determines their social standing. I have been waiting over a decade for the sequel and he just released it (Red Side Story) last year. My brain has been bad at letting me read books, so it sits on the shelf but I loved the first one.

I really hope there's no problematicism around him (as that's the subject of the thread), but reading his books it's hard to imagine there could be.

[–] svcg@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 2 hours ago

I also love Jasper Fforde, and it is because he was guest of honour at a Jodi Taylor event that I also got into her books. She writes a series about time-travelling historians which I would recommend.

She also writes at a much faster pace than Fforde does these days, so that's a plus. I was never half as annoyed waiting for GRR Martin to write A Dance With Dragons as I was waiting for Red Side Story!

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 6 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

not problematic

I love the guy but I'm sure you could find an instance of him being problematic. Like his pen name, David Wong, is questionable given he's not asian.

[–] dontbelievethis@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)
[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 0 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Stolen valor refers to the act of falsely claiming military service or awards that one did not earn, often to gain respect, money, or other benefits.

?

How does being or not being Asian plays into this?

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago) (1 children)

He stopped using it for that very reason, and took accountability. People are allowed to self correct, if he understands the problem with what he did and course corrected without being called out for it what would throwing more stones accomplish?

Edit: Also, not a big enough deal to say you shouldn't read his books.

[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 4 points 5 hours ago (2 children)

I'm not throwing any stones, yo. I'm just pointing out you can't exactly say he's not problematic. I have a tolerance for problematicity so it's of no bother to me.

[–] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

The word problematic is kind of weasely used this way. The pen name had an in-universe rationale that made sense and was funny because of the incongruity. Merely alluding to the existence of ethnicity isn't "problematic" in itself.

[–] NotASharkInAManSuit@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

If he was still using the pseudonym and making excuses to keep using it, sure, but I’m of the opinion that once someone understands what they have done wrong and took the opportunity to learn from it and do better there is no more wrong doing. There are, of course, exceptions to this, but a pseudonym that someone came up with in their 20’s and had the wherewithal later to say, “That’s not ok, I need to stop doing that” and stopped doing that for the right reasons is pretty far from a reason to call them problematic, especially when it wasn’t a decision made under any form of duress and he has made no attempt at defending his choice to have used that pseudonym and stated it was not ok for him to have used that pseudonym.

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[–] zaphod@sopuli.xyz 5 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

Maybe not the most popular idea here, but I think there are a lot less Rowling fans, and a lot more Harry Potter fans. After all she didn't really write anything noteworthy after the Harry Potter books. And the HP themed stuff like Cursed Child and Fantastic Beasts she did after the main series is let's call it controversial, she's a one hit wonder. Gaiman wrote a lot more and had a lot more different main characters in different settings, as far as I know, I didn't read anything of his stuff.

[–] nik9000@programming.dev 4 points 2 hours ago

I've read a bunch from both authors and think your point checks out. Gainan has much more variety. I'm not sure it matters though.

My guess, worthless as it is, is that Gaiman's best works celebrated the marginalized. Loved them and taught you to love them. Respected them. His work taught people that his actions are terrible.

On the other hand, Stardust. Maybe my guess is totally wrong. Shrug

[–] drmoose@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

There's just so much entertainment and incredible creativity out there. I genuinely don't understand allegiances like this.

I love Sandman but tbh fuck that dude and I'll go read one of other million alternative stories that often are just as good if not better.

The competition in creative industry is just insane and switching is basically free compared to any other industry. Like, good luck switching from John Deere if you're a farmer but Harry Potter fans have zero barriers and still can't do it. Spineless, weak people.

[–] kandoh@reddthat.com 1 points 1 hour ago

My friend has a significant portion of his sleeve tattoo dedicated to sandman so in his case O really get it

[–] morphballganon@mtgzone.com 23 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

People got into Gaiman at an older age than they got into HP. So HP is more deeply ingrained

[–] Vreyan31@reddthat.com 5 points 6 hours ago

At 13, I read Ender's Game and was absolutely obsessed. Read a ton of other OSC books at that age and it took me decades to rid myself of all the veiled mormon morality in his books.

As an adult, I never had one hesitation about disavowing him. I re-read the Ender saga a few years back to see how it held up (it didn't hold a candle to my teen-self's impression), but I had no problem not paying for new copies of anything that would pay OSC.

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