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Seriously tho these people can’t be serious, right? Like this has to be a fucking op

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[-] zifnab25@hexbear.net 85 points 1 year ago

My family's salary was $200 a month

I hear this shit and I think about my grocery bill today, in America. Like, what could you buy for $200/mo in Ukraine in 2004? What was rent? What was a month's worth of electricity?

Like, never even mind Communism v Capitalism. Americans have no clue how bad they have it, because there's always some guy on the other side of the planet living a depressingly normal existence on 1/10th of the salary you need to get by in the States. It looks fucking hellish on paper, but when you're living in the literal bread-basket of Europe its surprisingly easy to fill up your shopping cart when you compare it to some college kid who blows that same $200 at Whole Foods on dry pasta and laundry detergent.

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[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 73 points 1 year ago

It's weird to me how many people my age (like this guy) believe they knew the horrors of communism when at best they had self awareness in 2008 xD

This pretend game is really annoying yet so many people for some reason love to do it to appease westerners.

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 53 points 1 year ago

there are americans right now who think their shitty lives are the fault of communists taking over america. the cold war propagandists were so successful that they crafted an entirely new reality.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

It's actually maddening how convinced so much of the population in the west thinks that communists have secretly infiltrated every aspect of society (even going so far as to call corporations and lib politicians Marxist). They're living in a very deranged reality that makes them the victim of communists at every waking moment. There's no way it's a healthy state of mind to be in.

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

There's a lot of westoid propaganda about how Eastern Europe is horrible because of "the legacy of Communism" as if the USSR is like radioactive fallout that persists for hundreds of years.

[-] Iceman@lemmygrad.ml 36 points 1 year ago

Nothing to do with the neo libereral steel batch they subjected them to.

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago

A lot of them perpetuate this themselves as well. Remember a Bulgarian telling me the racism they had was due to the legacy of Communism.

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 35 points 1 year ago

for real, people younger than me telling me generic pro-NATO talking points about a country my parents actually experienced? Countries that stopped existing 33 years ago? It comes across as obvious shilling/astroturfing to me.

[-] polskilumalo@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 1 year ago

Well I have parents which both lived their childhood through the martial law period, and despite the horrible situation of those times my mother still considers fondly that everyone had a job and a home, and my father hates (I think) every PZPR politician except Edward Gierek and ranted to me how we should've "been more like Yugoslavia who were more open to trade with the west". I love him but he could use some history on how it was the west who were the ones to close on us and yada yada... But what are you gonna do, the man is in his 50s and PRL ain't coming back any time soon.

They were both young adults in the 90s going through times barely different from the 80s, and then there was I born in 2003. I still somewhat remember the poverty I was growing up in up to like 2010 when things started to quickly improve. Not because capitalism good, but because my mother landed an okay job and we very fortunately living in a house with my great grandmother. So we had no rent to pay. We were very lucky to say the least.

If we were to rent, my life would have turned out drastically different. Definitely worse.

[-] Cummunism@hexbear.net 68 points 1 year ago

In capitalist state, when things go bad, communism was the cause. Don't analyze any further!

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 58 points 1 year ago

Communism is when bad before!

Capitalism is when now!

[-] panopticon@hexbear.net 50 points 1 year ago

From where I'm at, growing up under communism would be the real privilege

[-] HamManBad@hexbear.net 62 points 1 year ago

I got into an argument with someone who was defending the American dream because their parents came here with "nothing" from a poor country and were able to become respected Ivy League professors

Their parents had advanced degrees, for free, from the USSR

[-] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 33 points 1 year ago

A lot of immigrant parents love dramatizing what they went through and you end up with a lot of people that moved to the US with no money in their pocket and a dream to thrive. I've met a few like this with parents who came from my country. I meet their parents and immediately recognize their Spanish as someone who grew up with privilege.

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[-] Balefirex@hexbear.net 38 points 1 year ago
[-] dannoffs 74 points 1 year ago

My dad once explained to me how communism works and why it fails. A teacher decides that from now on on assignments he is going to add up all of the grades and give the students the average no matter how they did. The kids who did good on the test are upset because they got a bad grade due to the dumb kids who didn’t even try on the test. On the next test they don’t try because they know that it no longer matters and get an even worse grade. Eventually everyone stops trying.

Fucking what.

[-] ZapataCadabra@hexbear.net 61 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

My commune once explained to me how capitalism works and why it fails. A teacher decides that those who get the best grades get to take 10 points off the test of the kids who get the lowest grades. The kids who did well don't try on the next test because they get free points from the kids who did bad on the last test. The kids who do bad try hard to get a better grade, but don't because their points go to the kids ahead of them. Also the grades your parents got in school determines your first grade on the test. Eventually everyone kills the rich kids and the teacher.

[-] alexandra_kollontai@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

Good ending

[-] SerLava@hexbear.net 49 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Lmao

The trick with that idiotic metaphor is that grades are a million times fairer than capitalism

OK like imagine this. What if:

  • grades aren't dependent just on the quality of your assignments, but the sheer quantity
  • you need about 10 million man-hours per year to get an A+
  • but lucky for you, you can have other people do your schoolwork for you!
  • in exchange for writing out all your assignments, you allow your workers to have a C-
  • if they stop working on your assignments, they'll get an F and flunk out

Yeah so uhhh, that sounds like the dumbest fucking school ever and I would absolutely want to "share" those grades between people equally

EDIT: Oh and GRADES CAN BE PASSED DOWN TO YOUR CHILDREN

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 14 points 1 year ago

you need about 10 million man-hours per year to get an A+

you need to network with the people who give out A+s or people who know a lot of A+ givers to get an A+ or even just to get a C.

[-] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 48 points 1 year ago

Their dad really understood capitalism joker-amerikkklap

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 32 points 1 year ago

Lol seriously. Old job used to have great management after it opened. People had no problem working some extra or less hours because they know everyone had each other’s back including the managers. But then corporate downsized a bunch, the good managers got fired and replaced by like 1 or 2 guys. Nobody ever knew who the second guy was, and the first one was a piece of shit who made everyone miserable. Eventually everyone slowly started to put in less effort and quit. The guys in the freezers and warehouse wasn’t aware that people were quitting until the managers went back and hassled them. Now whenever I go to the store I see like 2/10 registers open lol

[-] HumanBehaviorByBjork@hexbear.net 45 points 1 year ago

if there's one thing planned economies are known for, it's not ever setting benchmarks for success. when factories underproduced in the soviet union, the bureaucrats simply said "okay thats fine sweetie."

[-] StellarTabi@hexbear.net 13 points 1 year ago

no one tries because there's no rewards, also everyone dies because it's slavery.

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 43 points 1 year ago

This is just the same old recycled "I taught my kids communism by giving them all the same rewards for their chores" bullshit parable we've all seen before.

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[-] muddi@hexbear.net 42 points 1 year ago

Meanwhile under capitalism, the ones swinging the hammers the hardest in the factories make as many times more money than the one in the suit sitting in the cozy office in the corner, right?

[-] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 36 points 1 year ago

This is literally a scene from a children’s sitcom on Nickelodeon

[-] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 25 points 1 year ago

That dad's name?

Joseph McCarthy.

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[-] kristina@hexbear.net 44 points 1 year ago

this is the problem with the internet, you never know that the anticommunist idiot youre talking to is an actual baby

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

Reading those comments, man the kids are not alright.

[-] penitentkulak@hexbear.net 24 points 1 year ago

My favorite part was when they said their dad actually didn't mind growing up in the Polish people's Republic because they had a nice stable life lol

[-] GhostofLeninsGhost@hexbear.net 21 points 1 year ago

I'd guess it's a bit based on the username that can be interpreted as "hogroast"

[-] SexMachineStalin@hexbear.net 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Management out of nowhere decided to no longer let me leave work early to pray the Friday (Jummah) prayer. They finally caught on to not having to participate in capitalism for 2 hours a week. Also the only one workplace in :estonia-burning: where I formerly could. It's like how the prospect of peace in Korea was shattered because Moon-jae In was no longer president.

Shit, guess I'll be moving again in 3 years back to Johannesburg to throw cinderblocks at Zionists from high-rise buildings, I guess.

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