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Hello World,

as some of you might be aware, there have been various accusations against one of our former community team members, Jordan Lund.

We have removed Jordan as a member of our community team a week ago, on 23rd of September, due to various behavior that we do not consider acceptable for a member of our team. We haven't posted about this earlier, as we're still in the progress of reviewing and making decisions, and we originally expected to be able to conclude this earlier, within a time frame where we could have presented the final outcome in the first post.

During his time with Lemmy.World, Jordan has been helping out our team with various admin-level tasks, as well as moderating a few large communities, including !news@lemmy.world, !world@lemmy.world and !politics@lemmy.world. As far as we can tell, most of his actions, including moderation actions, were in alignment with both our instance rules and also rules and spirit of the affected communities.

Unfortunately, this does not apply to all his actions. We have identified multiple cases of conduct that do not align with what we expect from members of our team. We currently do not have any explicit rules or code of conduct for our community team or other team members like instance admins on top of our ToS/bylaws, as we expected to have a common understanding of acceptable behavior. In the past we already had discussions with Jordan about some of this behavior and we believed that to be enough at that time. Going forward, we will be working on a code of conduct applicable to all members of our team, including community team and anyone above.

Being a member of our community team provides additional privileges for selected members, such as the ability to appoint community moderators, update our community spotlight or even banning users. In Jordan's case this included permissions to appoint community moderators and ban users from the instance.

As of today, we are not aware of misuse of these additional privileges. Once we have reviewed other actions taken by Jordan we will also review these types of actions taken by Jordan in the recent past. If you believe that you or someone else was incorrectly banned from Lemmy.World, you're welcome to appeal your ban by reaching out to our team. As we currently have some technical issues with our ticket system, I recommend sending an email to report at lemmy dot world for the time being, visting our Matrix room #general:lemmy.world or reaching out to @MrKaplan@lemmy.world directly, also possible via Matrix at @mrkaplan:lemmy.world.

Following our instance rules, we have a few cases in which we may remove community moderators from their communities:

  1. Grossly committing a violation of the Terms of Service
  2. Acting repeatedly against the local community rules
  3. Extended periods of inactivity, as evident by lack of public interaction and/or failure to respond to reports

We are still discussing whether we consider his behavior a "gross violation of our ToS", as there are definitely some arguments to be made in favor of that. This includes for example using incorrect gendered pronouns, which we will update in our ToS in the coming days to make it more clear to everyone that this will not be tolerated. Due to his previous and current position we are still discussing what our final resolution to this issue will be as far as instance rules are concerned. Whether or not a person is trolling does not justify using incorrect pronouns for them. We have also informed Jordan that we expect his behavior in this regard to change immediately.

We're currently also in conversations with other moderators of communities moderated by Jordan to review their position on his behavior within their communities and whether they believe that his actions in those communities were appropriate and in line with the community rules. As a reminder, the order of community moderators in the sidebar has direct impact on the moderator hierarchy, where a moderator listed earlier is able to remove any moderators later in the list. This means even if an action might not (yet) be taken by instance admins, other community moderators may be able to remove moderators if they're no longer desired to be part of the team. Especially community rules about civility and respectful conduct do not appear to have been followed in a number of cases, and we are reviewing with the community moderators whether this is in line with other content they would usually moderate/not moderate.

It should also be noted that not all things reported to us are actually or clearly violating our rules, even if we may not agree with them. For example, we currently do not have rules about moderators removing other people's arguments, especially as "misinformation", to strengthen their own misguided arguments, and then continue to accuse the other side of misinformation later on. We do expect our team members to not use positions of power to "win arguments" or falsely accuse others of misinformation, when this isn't actually the case. Therefore, while this example is not something we tolerate for members of our team, having this happen on community level (by a person who isn't also holding a role above community mod at that time) is currently not something we are enforcing.

Once we have worked out a CoC for members of our team, we will post about this separately and also gather community feedback on whether you believe that enforcement of that (or parts of it, or more things) should also include moderators of Lemmy.World communities.

Additionally, we will also be looking at expanding our community team a bit in the near future, as we have both lost some people over time and recently also Jordan. We will also be posting about this separately, currently expected to be in a few weeks, with a description of expectations and responsibilities.

We will also be updating this post over the coming days until we have finished our review and actions.


Update 2025-10-06 01:27 UTC:

After reviewing various comments and actions by Jordan, he has received a warning, especially relating to following our rules at https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#1-attacks-on-people-or-groups. Going forward, if we see additional violations of our rules, especially when it comes to attacking others, we will consider additional consequences in the form of a temporary or permanent ban. If you still see Jordan's behaving in ways violating our ToS, please report this directly to us, e.g. through a pm to @lwreport@lemmy.world. We always review messages received by this account in our team.

In line with our current rules about potentially removing community moderators, we have reviewed the communities Jordan is currently a moderator in:

  1. !politics@lemmy.world: This community has active moderators above Jordan Lund, such as @aidan@lemmy.world.
  2. !news@lemmy.world This community has active moderators above Jordan Lund, such as @JonsJava@lemmy.world.
  3. !world@lemmy.world: We have moved Jordan from being top moderator to being bottom moderator. New top moderator is @Tenthrow@lemmy.world.
  4. !business@lemmy.world: No other active mods
  5. !comicbooks@lemmy.world: No other active mods
  6. !portland_oregon@lemmy.world: No other active mods
  7. !thepoliceproblem@lemmy.world: We have moved Jordan from being top moderator to being bottom moderator. New (active) top moderator is @JonsJava@lemmy.world.
  8. !hottubs@lemmy.world: No other active mods
  9. !keeptrack@lemmy.world: No other active mods

Any community moderator above Jordan will be able to remove him from his moderator position, should they decide that he is not a good fit for the community. It is up to those community moderators whether they want to keep him on the team.

We generally intend to limit our involvement in community moderation to enforcement of instance rules. Without disallowing other community mods to add Jordan back as a moderator, there would also not be much impact of removing him entirely, as they could just add him back right away. If you do not agree with the rules in a community or the way it is moderated, it's always possible to look for alternative communities with different rules, different mods, or creating your own community.

Having said this, we're still working on our team CoC, and will be gathering community feedback in a standalone post to determine whether we should enforce additional standards for community moderators.

Our review of Jordan's delegated admin actions (instance bans) are still pending. Unless we find evidence of this having been abused, we we do not currently expect additional consequences to arise from this.

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[–] kristina@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Imagine using your full legal name as a moderator on the internet

[–] oscardejarjayes@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

He also talks about the area where he lives, about his employment details, and I believe he even straight up posts photos of himself.

It's pretty wild for a minor internet personality that doesn't even do video.

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago (4 children)

Jesus, that is a shitload of words to say, fucking nothing at all. What did the guy do exactly?

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago (1 children)

One funny one was banning canadians from the axis news comm over using a canadian idiom and arguing "no canadians dont actually use that idiom"

He is an amerikkka

[–] goferking0 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

He also banned anything running on substack due to being a blog. Which is fine since a blogging platform but enforcement mechanism he used was if it had substack in the footer. So no dropsitenews.com or zateo, or anything else setup by journalists

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 2 months ago

No journalists with standards, we have to host only propaganda marketed as fact and news!

[–] tocopherol@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

I don't recall specifically but I remember he seemed to he a huge asshole and transphobe, this post does vaguely mention him misgendering people purposely.

[–] goferking0 15 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Obviously nothing but enough for them to adjust their mod orders out of nowhere. /s

Not one thing just people bringing up the history of his actions.

But mostly him just being a typical reddit mod and general asshole when questioned. Especially in places he couldn't remove those questioning him

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

lol so, reddit.world not beating the alligations, makes sense.

[–] spectre@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think they're saying he banned users unjustly (over online arguments or something)?

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

When I read through the comments, it sounds like he's doing Reddit-style power-mod behavior, silencing people he disagrees with unilaterally, and in the face of the "guidelines," the admins are doing the typical Reddit thing of washing their hands of the situation while doing nothing at all.

[–] aanes_appreciator@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago (1 children)

massive post to say "we've moved this guy down the pecking order on a few comms" like okay???

[–] goferking0 17 points 2 months ago

we're leaving it up to the mods now, go be mad at them if he stays

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Any community moderator above Jordan will be able to remove him from his moderator position, should they decide that he is not a good fit for the community. It is up to those community moderators whether they want to keep him on the team.

Lol even when they take action they are too lazy to moderate themselfs, no wonder axis.world keeps getting worse and worse

[–] nefertum@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

I prefer lemmy.nazi and sh.itsjust.nazis

edit: you're right axis.world is a better partner to sh.itsjust.nazis

[–] LemmySlopSkimmer@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

JonsJava:

"The admins gave me and others the decision. I didn't ask for this. As such, I decided to go with the least amount of headache, and have removed him from communities I am top moderator of. @jordanlund@lemmy.world is free to re-apply, and I will gladly discuss this.

The admins decided this without actually discussing this with me. They merely reminded me that as top moderator I had the power to remove moderators beneath me. They never mentioned to me that I would be taking on the role of top moderator of other communities until I was made aware of this post and the update.

The admins on NUMEROUS occasions have had no issues stepping in and moderating on our behalf, without discussion. The fact they want to defer now is odd, as this is a first-time occurrence.

I just didn't want to be the final decider of a bigger topic.

This may be the final straw that breaks this camel's back. I'm not sure how much more BS I can deal with."

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

His own modlog is interesting.

[–] goferking0 16 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Jon's? Yeah he's not at all better which is just hilarious even he's angry at the admins

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Littlecow also interesting

[–] goferking0 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 7 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hillary would have tried harder for you, even if that was just keeping status quo. And she’s a hell of a lot smarter. You. Fucking. Idiot.

Wtaf? Can't say worse. Maybe can't say better.

[–] goferking0 7 points 2 months ago (3 children)
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[–] PKMKII@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago (2 children)

OOTL, what’s the issue with Lund?

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

He's an insufferable shitlib, although there's no way that's why he got backlash from .world, because he fits right in there. Wonder what exactly he's done.

Also: https://www.opb.org/news/series/racenw/race-northwest-united-states-jordan-lund-portland/

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago (1 children)

LOL did they make this Reddit ass mod in a fucking lab? That's spectacular.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 23 points 2 months ago

The differentiator I experience is because I'm male. I've had a lot of anti-male sentiment. I lost a job because of it. Because somebody didn't like having talking to a guy. Such is life.

Really want to know the real story behind this.

[–] LangleyDominos@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

Incredible.

[–] thoro@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 months ago

Why oh why was an entire article written about this one man's opinions?

[–] corvidenjoyer@hexbear.net 15 points 2 months ago

He's the star of Dbzero's version of SRS Powertrippingbastards

[–] LemmySlopSkimmer@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 2 months ago (1 children)

About 30 minutes after you did. I was typing it all out and didn't see the notification. That and the fact that I've got 1453 notifications so sometimes its hard seeing them.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (2 children)

How do you even get that many notifications?!

[–] thelastaxolotl@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

A power I can only witness with a mixture of fear and awe wowee

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I post a lot. Like... a lot. And have done for years but was on Lemmy.world so you wouldn't likely have seen it. I started on startrek.website years ago but that was before the admins over there also drank their own fucking kool-aid.

It's at 1515 notifications now. And I just moved over from lemmyworld like a week or two ago. On lemmy.world I would hit "mark all as read" and have another 5k in a week... halp.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

That's impressive, to say the least. I post a decent bit on my Lemmy.ml account, but am more of a commenter, and I usually reply right away to keep a clean inbox, so the idea of having 1500+ in my inbox is terrifying, haha!

Congrats on getting off of .world!

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think my record so far was somewhere in the 7k region. I was curious what would happen on alexandrite if you hit 10000. I'm not ignoring all of them, there are just so many comments and they rack up so fast that it's hard to keep track. I usually go into the posts themselves regularly and check stuff and upvote whatever. I did used to go through my inbox but too much aaaaaaaaaaaa

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Hats off, that's some potent poster power.

[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 4 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] Stamets@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 months ago (7 children)

The problem with locktober. Too much energy to put towards posting. Too many messages. AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

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[–] RandallThymes@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago (1 children)

So this is your first time having access to the bear again since you joined .world?

[–] RandallThymes@hexbear.net 10 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Could have been two sentences, I’ve never seen so much meaningless filler in my life.

[–] Belly_Beanis@hexbear.net 5 points 2 months ago

I saw the word "bylaws" and my eyes just kinda glazed over.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 2 months ago
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