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For posting all the anonymous reactionary bullshit that you can't post anywhere else.

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I will not be spinning up instances of anything. I will seed hashes in bittorrent-like P2P networks, I will put my posts where they fit, I will look for posts from others in the most anti-censorship ways I can find, and I will hope devs and server admins create a version of Lemmy that’s fitting for more of my posts - while hurrying toward a possible future where Tor isn’t enough to make Lemmy relevant anymore, because P2P networks become the only place worth posting anything.

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[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 64 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Simplex isn’t what I use for free speech, nostr is, and my slurs are generally not racial.

Lmao

[–] comrade_pibb@hexbear.net 62 points 2 months ago

My "my slurs are generally not racial" shirt is raising a lot of questions already answered by my shirt

[–] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago (1 children)
[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago

MODS ADD IT

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago
[–] PaulSmackage@hexbear.net 59 points 2 months ago (2 children)

This person wants 0 censorship? libertarian-alert

[–] StillNoLeftLeft@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Wants 0 censorship and starts to work towards it by blocking everything he doesn't like.

This definitely checks out for a freeze-peach warrior.

[–] YOuLibsWoulD@hexbear.net 14 points 2 months ago

Guys, he just really needs it to work with tor, for you know, reasons.

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 54 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I love the their replies. They are so naive, it's adorable.

Just host your own fucking instance then nerd

No thanks.

Server admins can host their own instances when Tor support is added, though.

LMAO! I want you to do everything I tell you and I won't lift a finger! Of course buddy, you are 12.

EDIT: Oh my they're a one-person struggle session! :deep-nesting:

They even point to the benign rules (no ads, no porn, be respectful, no bigotry) as an example of censorship! Of course you do, you are 12.

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[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 42 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The subject OP is still going. It's absurd.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (1 children)

For fun, go in there and tell them TOR was made by the CIA lmao

[–] Edie@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Or the NRL. Why the Navy? Idk, US bullshit

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's just the CIA but it's wet lol

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Guy I used to play wow with was training to be a translator for Farsi for naval intelligence before he realized he was basically CIA and quit lmao

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

How to make a zero censorship instance:

  1. defederate every other instance
  2. disable signup
  3. say all the slurs in peace
[–] goferking0 9 points 2 months ago

lw still waits a month or two to defederate/tries to get them to enable federation with them

[–] unmagical@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago

Love the whole "didn't ask, why tf are you talking to me?!" gambit in conjunction with the "you aren't arguing in gOoD fAiTh, why do you dare make me copy and paste bits of my rant to absolutely demolish your argument instead of reading my divinely inspired prose that seemingly no one in this 100+ comment chain understood?" responses to people pointing out why they are wrong.

Chud just wants to gargle Hitler's balls and ogle lolis hosted on someone else's computer and is upset that the (non-governmental) entity ICANN will turn off his DNS if he dares try.

[–] nefertum@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

This is word vomit and nonsensical. Also this person doesn't really understand what federation is supposed to be. Seems like the average sh.itsjust.nazi user

[–] CrawlMarks@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago

That is a wild ammount of words from a guy that needs his emotional support slurs

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lemmy urgently needs federation between onion service instances and DNS addresses in order to actually do what most users seem to wish it would do: allow discussion outside what the corporate authorities allow, while outgrowing reddit & helping undo the damage social media has done to human communication.

Shit thesis. The people that want this degree of speech are the people that would turn away any potential growth because they're obnoxious pedophiles and drug addicts. Not that there's anything wrong with drugs but the kinds of people who build their identity around them cause everyone who isn't into drugs to want to get far away from them. You won't be "outgrowing reddit" on this approach.

These people are part of the early adopter crowd so it's useful to make something that they will try and spread but you have to silo them away from everyone else while you do it or else they'll actively destroy the future of your platform rather than help its growth. Reddit discovered this when it had its violentacrez moment.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 17 points 2 months ago (1 children)

People who make deathsticks their whole personality are so tiresome.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

The only good Jedi do is mindtrick-rehab people into not wanting to do deathsticks and go home to rethink their lives.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

For once, I’m sad we don’t federate with shit.just.doesntwork. There’s no such thing as a no censorship instance, because at the very least CSAM has to be filtered out. The whole concept of censorship has been weaponized by fascists who want to be able to infiltrate every space.

[–] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The whole concept of censorship has been weaponized by fascists who want to be able to infiltrate every space.

Freedom of preach

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[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 9 points 2 months ago (5 children)

I wish hexbear was more chill about piracy though.

[–] Ithorian@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (7 children)

Hexbear is absolutely pro piracy

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[–] D61@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Community is pro piracy in general, gotta be careful about posting certain things like direct download links in open chat though.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago (6 children)

That's what I mean. It's cool when stuff is censored when the community doesn't like it but in this case stuff is censored even though the community likes it.

[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 12 points 2 months ago

that's probably just to protect the sources from gathering undue attention? i can't imagine why else they would be censored

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[–] peeonyou@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

is it not? i've never seen anything pro-piracy removed

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

I think the only thing ive ever gotten any pushback on over the years ive asked for help getting stuff is an obscure punk album that I couldn't pay the bandcamp price for and wanted to rip it from the site. Generally I think this place is pretty open about it, innit?

[–] jackmaoist@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago (2 children)

What are you talking about?

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[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

They are right about TOR. Between the TikTok bullshit and porn sites requiring ID, it blows me away that more leftists aren't preparing for the obvious hammer hanging over their heads.

[–] dastanktal@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't necessarily think they are right about Tor. Why isn't DNS and IP addressing sufficient?

Most DNS registers aren't going to blast your DNS records, and even if they do, you don't have to specify ones from the United States or in the West, you can go to other countries that are more friendly to whatever particular ideology you're working with.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago (10 children)

It hasn't even been a year since Hexbear spent a month in limbo because of Domain Name shenanigans brought on by its own admins.

Most DNS registers aren't going to blast your DNS records, and even if they do, you don't have to specify ones from the United States or in the West, you can go to other countries that are more friendly to whatever particular ideology you're working with.

Most DNS registrars aren't going to abide with the demands of Law Enforcement?

  1. lol. What? I'm sorry, but that is incredibly naïve.
  2. Hopping around from domain name to domain name, country to country hoping for the best is not how to keep a community alive and will absolutely shrink your userbase every time. We are not the pirate bay, the service sites like hexbear offers are not nearly in demand as free shit.
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[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago

The only dns i need is /etc/hosts

[–] ChaosMaterialist@hexbear.net 8 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I'm going to do my best to give a good-faith answer to why TOR isn't the answer it seems to be. Leftists should understand the limitations of the technology we use so we can properly adjust our own personal security postures.

Content moderation is difficult to impossible with TOR

A TOR instance would be very difficult (if not impossible) to moderate while keeping its users safe. By design you can't block a troll by IP; 4chan runs into this problem constantly. If you force users to register with email then all security will be compromised for both the user and server when it sends out emails over the clearnet, to say nothing if the server is compromised. AFAIK no email provider will accept an email sent through TOR.

Even if the Onion instance(s) didn't care about moderation (like the original ranter wants), other instances will care about the griefing and spam, driving them to defederate with the Onion instance(s).

Old members of ~~chapo.chat~~ Hexbear will remember several attempts to flood this site with all kinds of trash, or the great purge of transphobes. Content moderation is the key to keeping us from becoming another cesspool or falling offline. Ironically the *chans have similar moderation for the exact same reason.

Technological security can be undermined shockingly easily with one mistake

For the sake of argument, and to steelman your position, lets pretend the above are solved. One huge danger of technological security is it gives many a false sense of their own security. Look at the recent Young Republican leaks, or really any leak from far right types. All of Signalgate was because a journalist was accidentally invited into the chat. Basic social engineering often gets the goods.

Most busts of by the feds are human factors, like a lapse in security or reusing an email. Powers-that-be can also find and go after the admins, which can compromise the site no matter the technological security. The Feds cracked LulzSec by a slip-up from Sabu and from there dismantled the whole group from the inside.

Backtrace Security had found his identity through an IRC chatlog in which Sabu accidentally posted a link to his personal website.

The breadth of the raids on LulzSec suspects and hardware across the world should give everybody pause from a security standpoint.

I haven't even covered securing the server from hackers.

Conclusion

At the end of the day, Lemmy is designed to get us out from under Corporate control, just like phpbb forums back in the day. Being a Person of Interest by nation-states is a completely different beast. Everybody should read Diary of a Person of Interest to see just how much power the Five Eyes can put on you.

I hate being the debbie-downer. I do wish we could build more secure software to protect people, but I want to keep people safe by giving a realistic view of the technological limitations. With the limitations in mind people can adjust their own security posture to mitigate the issues above for themselves.

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[–] Snort_Owl@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

Isnt the whole point is to be able to setup whatever the fuck instance with whatever the fuck rules so literally just make a slur instance

[–] Meltyheartlove@hexbear.net 22 points 2 months ago

BREAKING: Fake commie threatens real commie with violence on the internet (this has never happened across all internet discussions)

makes an account on sh.it'sjustfash

[–] Acute_Engles@hexbear.net 20 points 2 months ago

you can have freeze peach in siberia

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