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[–] hansolo@lemmy.today 174 points 2 months ago (3 children)

100%. I used to work in a museum. We had an exhibit come through all about Bog People. People killed and thrown in a bog, which preserved their bodies.

Most bodies were stabbed or hit on the head thrown into the bog with nothing on them. Not even clothing some times.

Anthrpologists: Sacrifices to the gods! Each person was chosen by a religious leader and carefully, lovingly, killed as a sacrifice to the gods to ensure the village had a good agriclutral season. Of course! So obvious.

Me: These dudes got robbed and murdered. Maybe not in that order.

[–] Sergio@piefed.social 48 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This but with bogs: "A lot of holes in the desert, and a lot of problems are buried in those holes." -Nicky Santoro, "Casino"

[–] the_mighty_kracken@lemmy.world 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I've heard that it is actually almost impossible to dig a hole in the ground around Las Vegas because a couple inches down it becomes solid rock. Most of those problems were tossed in a lake.

[–] MintyFresh@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)
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[–] arctanthrope@lemmy.world 33 points 2 months ago (7 children)

I don't know a lot about the subject, but from what I've heard in many cases there are indications that bog bodies were people of high social status. so not the kind of people who were likely to be assaulted by bandits, but the kind of people who might shoulder blame for societal issues. that's (at least in part) where the assumption that they are ritual sacrifices rather than random murders comes from

[–] Uruanna@lemmy.world 36 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

If they were richer or more powerful, they'd definitely be more targeted. What they might or might not have had at the time that you'd expect today (or even in a later medieval setting) is protection. What's the line between "the town set up a ritual designating the leader as responsible for failure" and "a bunch of people from downtown got upset and ganged up on the mayor and the landlord one night"?

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[–] BarneyPiccolo@lemmy.today 25 points 2 months ago

If I was dirt poor, and going to rob and kill someone, I'd make it someone with something to steal.

It probably wasn't difficult to find a female accomplice to get a well-to-do guy drunk in a tavern, lure him outside for a little slap & tickle, where her confederates can handle the rest.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago

They got Luigi'ed?

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[–] Meron35@lemmy.world 146 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Archaeologists believed that the women hairstyles depicted in ancient Roman statues were far too complicated, and therefore had to be elaborate wigs.

Janet Stephens, a hairdresser, took one look at the back of a bust, and immediately saw the underlying logic of the styles and how they could be achieved with a needle and thread.

When she got home, she found that archaeologists had consistently mistranslated the Latin phrase for "acus" which can mean needle and thread or single prone hairpin as only single prong hairpin. She goes on to film herself recreating all sorts elaborate hairstyles in Roman busts, and changed archeological viewpoint from then on.

Janet Stephens - Wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janet_Stephens

EDIT: Janet Stephens uploads recreations of ancient Roman hairstyles on her YouTube channel if you are interested

https://youtube.com/playlist?list=PLhacomyGRF2PBSm-ByuuNup6TGB3B8aAI

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 33 points 2 months ago

Thats badass actually I love it

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 126 points 2 months ago (2 children)

There was a similar story about a tool no one could figure out. They showed it to a leather worker and the worker pulled out a similar tool.

[–] TomMasz@piefed.social 66 points 2 months ago (19 children)

Then there's the Roman dodecahedron, which truly seems to be a mystery with no modern equivalent, but lots of theories.

[–] pelespirit@sh.itjust.works 36 points 2 months ago (15 children)

They look gambling related to me, but I don't know why that would be in a burial.

dodecahedron,

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_dodecahedron

[–] HelluvaKick@lemmy.world 42 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I hope my family buries me with my favorite dice set

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 46 points 2 months ago (2 children)

https://www.livescience.com/archaeology/bronze-age-girl-buried-with-more-than-150-animal-ankle-bones-potentially-to-help-her-to-the-next-world

As I recall, the bones were identified as gaming pieces. there's a similar game played in the area, and the winner gets to keep the losers playing pieces.

[–] Catoblepas@piefed.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 months ago

She was either so loved that a bunch of kids gave her their dice pieces as a symbolic gesture, or she fuckin rekt so many kids at dice one of them up and murdered her. Who can say.

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 10 points 2 months ago

Heckin gamer right there

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[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 22 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Some people honor their loved ones by burying them with the things that made them happy. We buried my grandmother with her porn tapes and dildo/vibrator collection.

[–] TexasDrunk@lemmy.world 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I don't know if that last part is a joke, but my buddy and his brothers slipped the porn VHS that was still in the VCR when his grandfather died in his casket along with a bottle of Crown Royal.

[–] fartographer@lemmy.world 15 points 2 months ago (3 children)

Not a joke at all. Also, being the fucked up family we are, we weren't not gonna watch it at least for a moment.

My review of Titty Fuck Follies: not my thing, but great fun for the family.

But for serious, being Jewish, they won't let you bury synthetic materials. But when my uncle was asked to bring an outfit for my grandmother to the funeral home, he also packed up the porn and paraphernalia in an HEB grocery bag and took it on down. He asked them to not look at it, but just to bury it with her. They later told us that they had to look at it for liability reasons, but since they knew my grandmother, they totally understood and just casually tossed it in her casket.

Note: my grandmother was well known at her condo for telling all the new residents how to use the bubble jets in the hot tub to have an orgasm.

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[–] Naz@sh.itjust.works 11 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

You mean the odd shaped candleholder?

It's so you could use candles of different sizes from different vendors without needing a distinct candelabra for each one.

It's a genuinely useful thing to have because the small metal balls would always keep it upright regardless of the shape of the candle. You'd just need to match the diameter of the hole.

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[–] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 12 points 2 months ago

A form of bone folder, if I'm remembering correctly.

[–] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 99 points 2 months ago

Also, archaeologists found the ruins of huts which had a curious circle of bricks, one brick in height, in the middle of the floor. They were stumped, and probably ready to declare it a ceremonial shrine of some sort, until one of them asked the local hired help, who immediately pointed out that the peasants in the area today have similar circles in their dwellings for penning up new-born chicks whilst allowing adult chickens to cross.

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 69 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

"Local mom reveals one weird trick that archeologists hate!"

I'm not saying something like this has never happened but I expect that such claims are simply anti-intellectual urban legends more often than not.

(How would we even know where pre-Columbian people stored knives? The sort of structure that would survive for centuries seems like it would be a palace or a temple made of stone, rather than a common kitchen. There the blades presumably would serve a ritual purpose.)

[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 39 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Many pre-columbian cultures survived for a long while in a diminished form after colonization began. It's not unlikely we would be aware of this and speculate about it. It's very likely that early historians of indigenous Americans would speculate in this manner, take it from me this is my specific historical interest. I do suspect many of these tales are more legend than fact but it expresses a real issue within early histories of colonized peoples written by the colonizer.

[–] etherphon@lemmy.world 67 points 2 months ago (8 children)

This is some facebook boomer shit.

[–] DigitalAudio@sopuli.xyz 59 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

What makes it truly Facebook boomer slop isn't that the story is implausible (because such a misunderstanding and then correction is perfectly likely) but the lack of sources, the anecdotal and vague nature of the post, and the slightly misguided message of "motherly experience will always beat studies and expertise" which is only pandering to the mothers who read this stuff.

If this actually happened, give that woman a name and tell us who she was, don't just call her "a mother".

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 26 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

No don’t you see, they ran their findings past a mother, as all archaeologists do (the implication of course being none of those dumb science idiots could handle being a mom as people can’t do 2 things). The mother then corrected them, likely with folded arms, likely going “mmmhmmm” once they realized that her wisdom beat their book learnin’

thus, she cemented her legashe. And that is why we all know her today: random nameless mother.

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[–] PugJesus@piefed.social 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Couldn't find anything to validate this specific claim of archeologists claiming obsidian blades were kept close to the sun (under a roof???) to keep them sharp, but you see things like this pop up from time to time, wherein specialists or people from the region point out that a poorly-understood archeological find is just a specialist tool or regional practice that's still in use.

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[–] fossilesque@mander.xyz 38 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

I prefer this version. Also, as someone quite close to the field, there's an awful lot of misinformation in this thread. Tread carefully, readers.

[–] JensSpahnpasta@feddit.org 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Your sharepic is also quite misleading - yes, menstruation occurs approx. every 28 days, but the lunar month is also 29,5 days and we know of many calendar systems and ancient cultures that used lunar months. Which makes sense as moon phases are easy to observe and kind of align with the year. So that could be some stone age woman tracking her period, but it could also be a male priest tracking the moon.

[–] GeneralVincent@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Pretty sure thats the point tho, there are often multiple different explanations for each mystery. So having a diverse group of archeologists is beneficial to get as many theories as possible.

So the 'gotcha' by the professor probs isnt a 'this is definitely the only explanation', it's just to have the students question their biases and seek diverse opinions.

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[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 37 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

Exoticizing ancient and foreign cultures is bullshit.

Yeah they believe dtuffthat sounds crazy to you,but they aren't fucking aliens. Having people with actual relevant experience participate in archaeology is essential. Wjenlooking at stonework, bring a mason. When looking at hair, bring a barber. When looking at textiles, bring a seamstress.

[–] BowtiesAreCool@lemmy.world 27 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Early humans are just that, humans. Their brains worked basically identically to how ours work, they just had wildly different lives. If you plucked a baby from today and time swapped it with a baby born 10,000 years ago, they’d be fine and grow up as if they didn’t know (disease notwithstanding)

[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

This is a difficult concept for Westerners (including myself at one point) since Western historiography has a tendency to portray history as linear and unidirectional.

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[–] shawn1122@sh.itjust.works 16 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (7 children)

You say aliens but there are many archaeological engineering marvels from the ancient world that don't fit the "primitive" narrative and so there are conspiracy theorists that believe it must have been aliens. One example would be the Kailasa temple in India which was carved out of the face of a cliff

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 34 points 2 months ago

It almost always boils down to "nonwhite people couldn't have done this" and it pisses me the hell off

[–] cassandrafatigue@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 2 months ago

Yeah, because they're racist as fuck

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[–] GeneralEmergency@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (8 children)

ITT: Lemmites upset that a WOMEN would dare say a man is wrong.

[–] usernamefactory@lemmy.ca 15 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Any skepticism here falls downstream of the initial failure to credit that woman’s contribution. Accepting the reduction of a contributor’s identity to “a mother” would be more misogynistic than the responses I’m seeing.

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[–] BanMe@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago

Yeah calling bullshit on this entire thing is misogynistic. Sure Jan.

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[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Something something field advances one funeral at a time.

The strongly held opinions of “senior” people in academics and sciences are defended for the sake of ego and maybe funding, and that blocks the ability of outside information and questions that could change those ideas.

Wonder what the pass/fail rate is for things like this. How many “facts” are toppled quickly after a defender’s demise.

[–] CovfefeKills@lemmy.world 14 points 2 months ago (1 children)

This is why smug and archeology never go together. Literally I never bought Graham Hancock until smug archeologists admitted to ignoring evidence. Like wtf no shit he believes civilization is way older than we say because we are sitting on evidence waiting for it to be smug-worthy wtf!

[–] Soulg@ani.social 11 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Ok but Hancock is a fucking clown who is extremely wrong

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