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A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated, ready to be replaced by cloud options from companies like AWS and Azure.

Bucha Bull to me.

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[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 291 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (14 children)

What a fucking joke that would be on US American networks.

We are ranked like 30th in the world for bandwidth. No fiber dropped to the curb but the billionaires. And shit slow 20th century wireless speeds with technical acumen that we see today in Verizon's ongoing 8 hour outage.

Bezos is so out of touch it is clown-like and stupid.

They want a data center heavy world but have no fucking pipeline to get data in and out for the rest of us.

What a human dildo.

[–] SnotFlickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone 194 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Bezos is so out of touch it is stupid.

Is he out of touch or has he just recognized that 50% of the economic activity is already from the top 10% of the population?

I get the feeling the wealthy have just written off the bottom 90% of society and don't actually give a flying fuck if anything works for us or not. He knows his core sales will go to people who do have fiber at their doorstep.

Maybe we're the ones out of touch thinking they plan on having a place for us in this world at all.

[–] Sanctus@anarchist.nexus 68 points 1 week ago

Thats the plan, organize yourselves now before they do it for you

[–] alekwithak@lemmy.world 53 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Even Ford, piece of utter feculence he was, understood that if you gave people money and time to spend it they'll give it right back to you and everyone gets to come up together.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

That was a PR stunt. Wages were being raised anyway, he just preempted what he knew was coming to make himself look good

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[–] umbrella@lemmy.ml 23 points 1 week ago (5 children)

plus they get to control and censor information much more tightly

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[–] NuXCOM_90Percent@lemmy.zip 35 points 1 week ago (7 children)

Can we not pretend the problem is solely performance based? People keep doing this with generative AI and it keeps resulting in "oh shit, ghibli AI is so awesome".

Especially since... can you watch a twitch stream? Congrats, you can stream a desktop. Even back with Stadia it was very much viable to play games like AssCreed over streaming and have a very comparable experience to it being local. And stuff like Geforce Now actually work REALLY well.

The issue shouldn't be "can you make this perform well enough I want to use it". It should be about ownership and the implication for.. everything if all "personal computers" exist solely in a data center and all documents exist solely in The Cloud and so forth. Preservation of anything becomes nigh impossible and you suddenly have to pay a monthly fee to ever see your kid's pictures again.

[–] ParlimentOfDoom@piefed.zip 25 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Having tried to play games over a gigabit connection, no. You really can't. Latency is not something you can just handwaved away.

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[–] unabart@sh.itjust.works 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

I had to sign up for DSL this week in Frankfurt, DE as my neighborhood didn’t have cable or fiber internet. Don’t think that we’re gonna be cloud-ready any time in the next 50 years. DSL. Frankfurt. Major city.

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[–] wuffah@lemmy.world 237 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (18 children)

We went from mass surveillance to hardware confiscation real quick.

These companies are so large that they don’t need the consumer market anymore. The consumer is now the competition. They can essentially purchase the entire planet’s output of computing hardware years in advance to force us out of the market and lease it back to us at inflated rates. Then, they turn all that tensor compute against us to make everyone’s life a living digital surveillance hell.

Forget Internet freedom, computational liberty is now at risk. Who needs all that expensive legal and technological architecture to steal your data, report on you to the government, and enforce DRM when they control bare metal access to your rented corporate cloud hardware because consumer PC equipment is too astronomically expensive to afford for the average person?

We need to elevate the prosecution of anti-trust to the level of religious inquisition, and burn these companies at the stake. They’re using AI to literally enslave humanity, and it’s working.

[–] Tyrq@lemmy.dbzer0.com 45 points 1 week ago (12 children)

I can't agree with this more, but what's the plan exactly?

[–] astronaut_sloth@mander.xyz 45 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Sounds perfect for some trust-busting action. If only we had a capable government...

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[–] cv_octavio@piefed.ca 24 points 1 week ago (9 children)

Ok. One more time for everyone in the back. Ready?

Tax.

The.

Wealthy.

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[–] biotin7@sopuli.xyz 81 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (3 children)

Ok so the tactic is to drain the corporations of their money.

  • piracy
  • dis-enshittification
  • jailbreaking devices
  • opensource hardware
  • decentralization
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[–] merdaverse@lemmy.zip 66 points 1 week ago

Unsurprising that capitalists want to seize all the means of computation for themselves.

[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 62 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Hey Jeff — you know what I think is antiquated and should be relegated to the annals of history?

Billionaires.

Go away and live your life of luxury and shut the fuck up. Don't you have enough fucking money?

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[–] pyre@lemmy.world 55 points 1 week ago

yeah you know what i always thought hey this PC cost me a lot, i wish I could keep paying for it indefinitely.

[–] HugeNerd@lemmy.ca 47 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'll own nothing and you'll be happy?

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[–] Nioxic@lemmy.dbzer0.com 43 points 1 week ago (5 children)

i will never in my life get any subscription to anything, that doesnt have to be a subscription.

so far i'm fine with:

internet connection and my phone number

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[–] morto@piefed.social 42 points 1 week ago (1 children)

A few years ago, Amazon chairman Jeff Bezos revealed how he thinks of local PC hardware as antiquated

People should be more aware that appeal to making you feel old or antiquated is one of the main strategies from corporations to push their products into you.

No, you're not antiquated. Just be yourself and do things the way you like to do, not the way corporations want to force you into. No one should judge you, and if they do, they're wrong for judging others for their way to do things. Don't fall for that trap

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[–] Bluegrass_Addict@lemmy.ca 41 points 1 week ago

I'll give up computers entirely before I rent one from you greedy pricks.

[–] melfie@lemy.lol 40 points 1 week ago (2 children)

When AWS had the major outage recently, my self-hosted services kept on running. The programs on my Linux machines and other devices I own were also not impacted. Thanks, Jeff, but I’ll stick with my “antiques”. Also, fuck you.

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[–] lightnsfw@reddthat.com 37 points 1 week ago

"Hopes", more like will be doing a bunch of anti-competitive bullshit to ensure that this is your only option.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago (6 children)

I mean, that's absolutely where this is going at a business level. Cloud computing has been in the cards for decades, and the only real question is who will do the hosting.

With the price of RAM and CPUs going asymptotic, these big cloud compute companies are building an effective monopoly on high end processing capacity. They're cornering the market on hardware. Eventually, you either use their computers or you stick with legacy hardware (that's seeded with Planned Obsolescence time bombs) or you (shudders just to think of it) start buying computers from CHINA.

When you think about it, there's really only one option.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 25 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (5 children)

From an IT operations perspective this makes so much sense they’ve already tried it before. They were called “thin clients” and just had enough compute and network to connect to run remote desktop software.

This greatly reduces the amount of spending you need to build out a large corporate network, and centralizes management just like they already do for servers with stuff like VMWare.

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[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 33 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Every 5 years someone invests a bunch of money into thin clients, and then we’re right back where we started.

I’ll believe it’s possible when America’s networking infrastructure isn’t covered in holes.

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[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Of course they want that. So they can control and see everything that people can do on their devices. With Moore's law there is absolutely no reason why centralizing computers should make sense. This is pure corporate greed and nothing else.

You will own nothing and be happy.

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[–] Foofighter@discuss.tchncs.de 32 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Step 1: Raise sales prices artificially

Step 2: Create affordable alternatives to rent.

Step 3: Wait until enough people claim that its cheaper and more comfortable to just rent.

Step 4: Wait until maket is destroyed.

Step 6: Raise prices.

"You will own nothing and you will be happy"

  • Blackstone
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[–] Don_alForno@feddit.org 32 points 1 week ago

Fuck you Jeff.

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 32 points 1 week ago

Yeah bud, maybe if you get just a little more money, you'll finally be complete. Just a little more money....

[–] sol6_vi@lemmy.makearmy.io 31 points 1 week ago (3 children)
[–] Almacca@aussie.zone 37 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Better yet, over Jeff Bezos' dead body.

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[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Everything a subscription. You'll own nothing and like it!

And, people, I can't stress this enough, FUCK JEFF BEZOS!

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[–] daannii@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago

That's Nvidia's whole game plan. Subscription to use their hardware. Limits on hours of gaming. Pay to play more hours.

[–] sturmblast@lemmy.world 30 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Nothing is ever enough for these greedy fucks

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[–] Eldritch_Alyx@lemmy.world 29 points 1 week ago (3 children)

Imagine the unparalleled censorship when the far-right tech elites decide what you can do on "your" computer.

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[–] abbiistabbii@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 1 week ago

Fuck that shit. Switch to Linux.

[–] BoycottTwitter@lemmy.zip 28 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

The only thing people should be giving up is their Amazon Prime subscriptions and AWS hosting. You're very likely getting ripped off and overcharged if you use AWS. Also although I recommend ordering from other websites if you have no choice but to use Amazon you don't need Prime for free shipping, just wait until you have enough stuff in your cart such that you're over the free shipping threshold. Don't order unnecessary stuff to get over the threshold.

[–] garretble@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

Good luck with that.

Signed,

A person who has recently started pulling all their files from cloud storage like Google Drive and Dropbox

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[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago

Techno-feudalism, ladies and gentlemen.

[–] diabetic_porcupine@lemmy.world 27 points 1 week ago (6 children)

So wait is the idea that computers would just be like a monitor that connects directly to Amazon

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[–] 1984@lemmy.today 26 points 1 week ago (2 children)

If you want to be financially free, have no debt. Pay off any loans, dont have subscriptions. Make your monthly costs to be as low as possible.

That is freedom but its the opposite of what is advertised.

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[–] glitchdx@lemmy.world 26 points 1 week ago (4 children)

This has been tried, and it sucked and failed every time.

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[–] Etterra@discuss.online 24 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] DFX4509B@lemmy.wtf 23 points 1 week ago

I'm not giving up my PC, I'm running it until it dies, Big Tech can fuck off.

[–] floquant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 week ago (1 children)

The means of information are the new means of production

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[–] BassTurd@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago (3 children)
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[–] UnspecificGravity@piefed.social 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

These greedy fucks are coming after everything you have, that's how this works.

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[–] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago

fucking microsoft too. they're enshittifying things so much because they can charge you rent to compute instead

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