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cross-posted from: https://lemmy.world/post/42522914

The two federal immigration agents who fired on Minneapolis protester Alex Pretti are identified in government records as Border Patrol agent Jesus Ochoa and Customs and Border Protection officer Raymundo Gutierrez.

The records viewed by ProPublica list Ochoa, 43, and Gutierrez, 35, as the shooters during the deadly encounter last weekend that left Pretti dead and ignited massive protests and calls for criminal investigations.

Both men were assigned to Operation Metro Surge, an immigration enforcement dragnet launched in December that sent scores of armed and masked agents across the city.

CBP, which employs both men, has so far refused to release their names and has disclosed few other facts about the deadly incident, which came days after a different immigration agent shot and killed another Minneapolis protester, a 37-year-old mother of three named Renee Good.

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[–] okcomputer@piefed.world 6 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

The sad reality is they’ll probably end up making a lot of money off gofundme

[–] cecilkorik@lemmy.ca 2 points 58 minutes ago

I am not implying that anything will happen to them anytime soon, and as you suggest they may even profit in the short term, but I do think they might end up with a shortened lifespan eventually, or if they're particularly lucky, just a significantly less free one.

[–] WesternInfidels@feddit.online 129 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago) (10 children)

Something that jumped out at me: These guys had worked for CBP for ~8 and ~12 years, respectively.

These thugs, who wrestled an uninvolved bystander to the ground, then shot him in the back while he lay there helpless, were not panicky newbs. These were veteran CBP officers.

Is this just what veteran CBP officers are like?

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 10 points 2 hours ago

Is this just what veteran CBP officers are like?

I read an article a few weeks ago, which pointed out that ICE does work internal to the US and is generally pretty restrained. CBP works at the border and is generally more aggressive, chasing down and subduing people who've crossed the border, usually in remote and hostile territory. They said that CBP could often be violent, and now those people were being released to use those same tactics against American cities.

So yes, this is exactly what some CBP officers are like.

[–] ZombieCyborgFromOuterSpace@piefed.ca 9 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

I dated a CBP officer once. They only get some basic training on how to use their weapon, and some simulations and that's it. Just some basic training to defend themselves.  Not this kind of stuff. 

[–] apex32@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Reminds me of The Simpsons when Homer became a juvie prison guard:

https://youtu.be/ioUnPdosIfw?t=88

[–] s1ndr0m3@lemmy.world 67 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

Jonathon Ross, who murdered Renee Good, works for CBP for 10 years. Abolishing ICE isn't enough. All of DHS needs to be uprooted.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 hours ago

Abolish ICE? Not good enough. Punish ICE

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 hours ago

Are you telling me that all cops are bastards?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago) (1 children)

I listened to a former director's (or something) take and he said likely they were trained for a different kind/style of enforcement, not the crowd control style that Trump shoved them into. I wanna say that's a weak explanation, but I don't know how often they were raiding before Trump.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

likely they were trained for a different kind/style of enforcement

Cartel hit man? Border Patrol migrant death squad?

[–] someguy3@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

A quick read of wikipedia says ports of entry checking people and cargo, agriculture (pests, plants, animal disease), stopping weapons and narcotics smuggling, duties and taxes (import specialist, auditor, international trade specialist, and textile analyst). I'm sure there's a shit ton of paperwork. These are not all front line SWAT people, but I'm sure Trump pushed many out. Even for front line they used to plan out raids afaik for like 5 am when the target is asleep, they weren't out for what's now stirring shit up and let's call it crowd control.

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 hours ago

My point being that there’s no role where they’re trained to shoot people in the head at point blank.

Not being trained for crowd control ≠ execute anyone that defies you

[–] Hegar@fedia.io 33 points 6 hours ago (3 children)

There are a couple possibilities:

  • These names could be fake.
  • The regime could've encouraged or tapped trusted long time agents to intentionally kill as part of their escalation plan against the american people.
  • These guys are just violence-lovers who have been waiting for a time they thought they could get away with murder.
  • Even veteran CBP officers are incompentent fucking newbs.
[–] arrow74@lemmy.zip 1 points 47 minutes ago

You forgot an option they've done stuff like this before, likely to a minority or immigrant, and thought they could continue to get away with it

[–] otter@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 3 hours ago

All but the first one are likely. Patsies, maybe, but full-on fictitious? There's no way that wouldn't bite the Nazi admins in the collective ass. The rest? Yeah, all of the above.

[–] Whostosay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago

Or E) B,C, and D

[–] silentjohn@lemmy.ml 21 points 6 hours ago

We've been trying to tell people this.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 20 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Well, but a tail light was kicked out. Oh and some spitting happened. Obviously that requires being shot in the back multiple times by Reel Murican Heroez.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

That taillight video looks like ai

[–] darkdemize@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

Hey, so you're not the first person I've seen with this view. Just curious what about the taillight video indicates to you that it is AI and not real footage. Is there anything specific you can point to, or is it just a feeling you have? Honest question, no judgement.

[–] PriorityMotif@lemmy.world 7 points 3 hours ago

You're not going to kick a taillight and have it fall out like that unless it was already broken or loose also the wiring is stupidly long. The people in the video I saw also move fucky/ unnaturally unless the video I saw was sped up for a few frames here and there. It could be a doctored video where he really did kick the car, but I doubt the taillight would just fall out like that.

[–] BrikoX@lemmy.zip 7 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

It was confirmed by his parents.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 1 points 56 minutes ago

What was confirmed?

[–] unexposedhazard@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 6 hours ago (1 children)

They just finally got permission to do what they always wanted i guess.

[–] floofloof@lemmy.ca 2 points 55 minutes ago

Or maybe the other times they've done it, it wasn't on camera in the middle of a busy urban street.

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 6 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t think this is true information. Why would the admin be honest about this? The gun discipline isn't of people who have practiced even a year with their weapon, for starters.

They’re painting a picture instead.

[–] Makeitstop@lemmy.world 15 points 4 hours ago

According to the article, the names were in government documents which they were able to view. There's no indication that the information was released or intended for release. It sounds more like someone with access leaked the information to them.

It's possible that this is a lie, but I don't see how it helps DHS or the administration. I think it's a lot more likely that there's a complete lack of standards and accountability at CBP and ICE and that the problem has festered for decades. Being a 10 year veteran doesn't mean anything if they aren't enforcing standards and weeding out anyone who falls short.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 30 points 7 hours ago (4 children)

There were many more than just 2 of these goons on the scene.

Also: those don't sound like murican names to me. I wonder if these guys are students of history. Do they think Stephen Miller won't eventually get to the point of having these two deported, as well? We are only a year into this shit and they are already murdering white people that show any contrarian views of the plot for mass deportation. Where do they think all this stuff leads if it is followed to its insane conclusion?

[–] Horsecook@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Stephen Miller is just another useful idiot, himself. He’s Jewish, and is going to get purged when the Christian nationalists are done using Trump.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Yeah, Stephen Miller seems to be studiously ignoring virtually all of history on such things. You might want to jump on the leading edge and be the vanguard of something, but it seems that they get to the arresting and killing of Jews very early into the awfulness, whether it was something like the Russian revolution or the Nazi regime.

Just why Stephen Miller apparently imagines following his awful campaign would end any different this time just boggles the mind. One could easily imagine a scenario where a truly awful turd like Bannon (or that fake "doctor" Gorka, etc.) is brought in after Stephen Miller is arrested on some fake charges involving not being sufficiently loyal enough to Taco or his offspring or to James Bowman...

[–] Zephorah@discuss.online 7 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I don’t suppose Stephen Miller is impeachable? This is his direct work, at this point.

[–] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

I'm unsure, but if not, I'd love to see someone find a way to arrest his dumb ass.

[–] tonytins@pawb.social 14 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Knowing this administration, they may be giving us a red herring.

[–] fakebanjo@lemmy.org 2 points 6 hours ago

I’m sure some rope and a hammer will get the rest of the names

[–] ArbitraryValue@sh.itjust.works 11 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

Were these records unofficially leaked to ProPublica? That seems to be the implication.

[–] fakebanjo@lemmy.org 3 points 6 hours ago

There is only one action from here.