My guess: Cats might get everything they need nutritionally from one meat source. Humans need a more diverse diet.
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....why the fuck did i waste time reading all that
My current cats have Opinions (capital O) about what is or isn't food. I tried giving them variety, at least in flavour. They don't want it. The want one specific brand of fish-flavored wet food (in jelly, not gravy). They'll eat some kinds of fish-flavored kibble if wet food isn't available. Anything else, they have to be pretty desperate.
At least they both like the same stuff! But the lack of variety is 100% on them, not me.
(My previous cats would eat most things. These two are just weird.)
Animal food is usually balanced to contain all the nutriens the animal needs, or most.
Ofc if it's proper
Well. We always have Soylent green ..
We do not "need" a variety of food. We eat it because we can afford it and it makes us healthier and happier.
Daily reminder that pet food is a more recent industry and before it existed pets mostly ate table scraps.
Cause we force them to
Ding ding ding, we have a winner!
There are lots of dogs and cats who crave variety in their diets, too. Like humans, it's a behavioral thing rather than a nutritional necessity. My shepherd will simply stop eating regularly unless I vary her diet. I usually have three or so options I rotate through to keep her interested in eating. Lots of people add toppers and mix-ins when they have dogs like mine, but I find that only increases food rejection, as smart pups learn to hold out until we sweeten the deal enough.
I worked for a pet food manufacturer, and it amazed me what customers would do to try to entice their picky pets to eat. One guy was giving his dog lasagna, and he was shocked that his dog didn't want to eat kibble anymore. Imagine that.
My thoughts were: At the mercy of their owner for one. Then a simpler obligate carnivore's taste buds and brain reward system vs an easily bored omnivore with thumbs and unga fire.
Cats can be pretty different with food preference compared to each other. My two aren't super picky. One is allergic to something in kibble so they both only eat wet food. I noticed above all that they vastly prefer paté pucks to a mince in gravy, no matter what flavour any of it is. Seems to leave them feeling fuller too afterwards. Priority: scent, mouth feel, and then taste is considered last is my observation.
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That said, a lot of humans in NA who don't cook at home are eating the same crap repackaged in multiple ways from the same Sysco supply monopoly served at almost every restaurant :p
We don’t
I'm a living proof that you can eat the same thing every day for decades and be just fine.
What do you eat daily?
Not the other guy but i have been eating the same thing every day for lunch for a yearish now. Chicken, carrots , potato. I found a great seasoning mix that works great and its a decent lunch. I have really bad stomach issues and this keeps that mostly in check. Mostly.
If the food you're eating doesn't contain all the nutrients you need you're unhealthy as fuck and it will come back to haunt you.
I've been eating the same thing for almost a year at this point as well.
Asked my GF who's an aspiring crazy cat lady:
It's because (proper) cat food is engineered to contain all the nutrients they need. While it looks like a bland mush of only one thing, it's more like the cat equivalent of having several full nutricious meals run through a blender. The required variety is built in.
I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too, it’s just not many people want that.
Its called soylent. Been around for at least a couple decades.
Speak for yourself, bachelor chow would solve many problems for me

Awww shieeet I JUST got done finding a pee'n'gee. What am I gonna do with this thing now?

Isn't that basically what Huel is?
yeah. I tried the "nothing but huel for a week" thing and got INTENSE cravings for other foods pretty quickly. I guess the other comments about getting bored are true. You can survive on it - even healthily - but it's not fun. Maybe you get used to it after a few weeks.
I’m convinced you could create such a food for humans too,
You could, and it would be very simple to do so.
1: Take all the food you'd eat for, say, a week. Absolutely everything.
2: Blend it. Maybe add some extra vitamins to make up for the ones that will be lost due to processing.
3: Dehydrate it. (To make it more compact and less likely to spoil.)
4: Compress it into pellets.
Done. You have now created 'human food'.
There are powdered meals that are supposed to offer balanced nutrition. I've heard of people living off Soylent, Huel, etc. I don't think it's good long-term, and the lack of chewing could cause problems. But it is feasible in principle.
I did a long period of time where Solyent was my main nutrition source and I ate different food if I went out to eat socially with people (which to be fair was several times a week). As far as I can tell, the only problem was getting used to the high amounts of fiber
need a variety of food to survive?
It's not true.
Boredom feels terrible while it lasts, but it doesn't kill you. In the end, humans usually start to get creative after boredom.
Oh, and yes, some food industry has found out things and told you things... yes, they were creative :-)
To add on to other peoples answers regarding the complete nutritional makeup of pet food; many animals can make a variety of the amino acids they need to survive with just a few inputs (like deer and cows eating only (mostly) plants), but some, especially predatory animals, cannot. They get those nutrients from the prey they eat, which in turn got them from the plants.
It essentially comes down to which enzymes any given organism can create, which ones their DNA codes for *or which microorganisms are allowed to exist within their system. Humans can't make a bunch of these amino acids themselves. Many (maybe all of them, not that far into my class yet) of the reactions taking in place in any living organism are entirely reliant on enzymes to catalyze them; that is, without them these reactions would take millions of years to complete.
BTW there are appr. 37x10^17^ (3,700,000,000,000,000,000) reactions happening in your body every second. All of them (or at least a great majority of them) require enzymes to complete.
You as a human could also live with the same food every day if it covered every dietary need. Especially if you depended on someone else to acquire it and had no choice.
There is an evolutionary push for a rich variety of nutrients obtained from a variety of sources, but the mechanism driving that daily "need" for variety is force of habit and desire for novelty. On top of that, some people are happy to eat nothing but junk and have very narrow tastes. How come?
Also, I can assure you, a lot of cats will periodically stop eating a certain brand or flavor and go through cycles. Does it mean the food isn't really covering their needs or are they just bored of the same flavor every day? Hard to know, but I would argue your assumption about humans being too different from their pets when it comes to variety in their menu.
Cats and similar animals are adapted to specific environmental niches, but humans are generalists. One of the drawbacks of being generalists is that we’re not specialized enough to fully subsist on any single food source.
We can definitely subsist on a single food source if it's been engineered to be nutritionally complete like pet food has.