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My therapist made a comment about how China is a failed socialist experiment because they have 2-3 year olds working in factories. I responded "So we've been told." She looks at me like I'm crazy. (Not a great look for a therapist) "I've not seen any evidence of that."

"Because they're such a closed country!"

"Which means you have no evidence to your point either?"

"Well, missionaries... anyway!"

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[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 84 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

The idea that China is a "closed country" is fucking wild, there are literally hundreds of millions of people travelling in and out of there every single year, not to mention the tons of Chinese people who work and study abroad who are in regular contact with their families back home, and likewise all the foreigners who work and study in China doing the same.

You should ask your therapist if they are an r/worldnews mod lmfao

[–] Hestia@hexbear.net 43 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It’s a “closed country” due to the something called the “Chinese language” which creates a black box of communication between westerners and Chinese comrades.

[–] Le_Wokisme@hexbear.net 21 points 4 days ago

the great wall of china was a language barrier all along

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[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 49 points 4 days ago (6 children)

I think she's thinking of bygone times when they were more closed off. I mentioned that they have opened up, to which she replied, "Just a little." I think there're too many brainworms, for me to help root out in the relatively short time I see her. I just needed to complain a little.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (6 children)

I mentioned that they have opened up,

FOUR DECADES AGO. I am reminded of people who think Russia is still commie

[–] BeanisBrain@hexbear.net 31 points 4 days ago (2 children)

It's always bizarrely funny to me when someone's conception of a foreign country is frozen in the era when they grew up. Like a guy I knew who, when I tried to explain that Japan is a semi-colony of the US, responded "actually the US is a semi-colony of Japan because they make all our electronics and could paralyze our economy by cutting us off from trade."

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[–] Gucci_Minh@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago

Westerners do seem to have a view of China that's stuck in the 1960s in terms of politics and 1980s in terms of development. Hence the insane cope when people present them with images of even 3rd tier Chinese cities.

[–] Ram_The_Manparts@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago

It's 1956 up in here

[–] mathemachristian@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

She said missionaries which is a huge red flag (the bad kind)

https://www.opendoors.org/en-US/persecution/countries/china/

is listed as #17 between Iraq and Burkina Faso

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[–] LeninWeave@hexbear.net 102 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"Because they're such a closed country!"

"Which means you have no evidence to your point either?"

"Well, missionaries... anyway!"

YOU CAN GO THERE ON VACATION

BUSINESSMEN GO THERE ALL THE TIME

ENGLISH TEACHERS

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 63 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The millions of Chinese traveling the world as tourists and international students were all once toddlers in a sweatshop too ya know

[–] Sulvy@hexbear.net 45 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Tbf the Chinese international students I had at my university all came from very wealthy backgrounds

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 51 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

Wrong, they're all mind-wiped sleeper agents made to BELIEVE they're from wealthy backgrounds. With the exception of God-Chairman Mao—who is alive and sitting upon the golden throne, as the immortal guardian of authoritarianism—all Chinese citizens are sweatshop workers.

[–] JoeByeThen@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If you think about it, this is the only explanation that makes sense.

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[–] Inui@hexbear.net 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

If you do go there and report back, they'll tell you that all the people you see are actors (like North Korea) or that they're the upper strata of society so not representative of the gajillions hidden away in prison camps or whatever they need to pivot to.

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 50 points 4 days ago (5 children)

"A 3 year old? Really? You believe that 3 year olds who can't put the blocks in the right holes have the dexterity and mental capacity to be useful factory workers? Is that really what you believe?"

[–] BanMeFromPosting@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (2 children)

New type of guy: Abolish child labour because I don't trust kids to do good work.

Related to the "do you have any idea how expensive slaves were?" Type of guy

[–] ourtimewillcome@hexbear.net 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (6 children)

youre joking, but that was indeed a line of argumentation used by child labor opponents in britain during the XIXth century.

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[–] DogThatWentGorp@hexbear.net 43 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

My fellow Americans: "politicians always lie, only care about themselves and would sell their own mother for pennies" anakin-padme-1

Me: "so we don't trust what they have to say about foreign countries they want to start wars with right?" anakin-padme-2

anakin-padme-3 anakin-padme-4

EVERY single time.

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 65 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The insanity I hear about China from westerners beggars belief. They are completely disconnected from reality

[–] bdonvr@thelemmy.club 47 points 4 days ago (1 children)

What they say about China pales in comparison to what they say about the DPRK.

[–] godisidog@hexbear.net 20 points 4 days ago

At least the DPRK is legitimately pretty opaque. China’s an open book in comparison and people still believe nonsense.

[–] miz@hexbear.net 42 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

it's awful. I'm sitting down having lunch the other day, and a dad and his daughter I recognize are at the next table. my back was to them (they arrived after me) and I don't feel like socializing, so I don't turn around, I just eat my lunch and read my book. at one point I tune in again and overhear him say, "in China, to this day, women working in the fields squat and have their baby and go straight back to work." as if it's typical for 1.4 billion people.

I understand grown adults repeating obvious lies to each other (False Witnesses) but somehow hearing a dad say this to his young daughter crushed my spirits

EDIT: and every time I see this dad socially in the future I will think of it and I am no longer capable of having any respect for him

[–] Flyberius@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago

After my first trip to China years ago I was telling a director of the company I was working at how great it was and specifically how good and cheap the food was. He was genuinely gobsmacked and responded "I thought they were all starving over there"

[–] Evilsandwichman@hexbear.net 38 points 4 days ago

I told the lib I used to work with about how Disneyland China has Winnie the pooh merch and actors and he actually responded "How did they get away with that?"

I begged him to stop visiting reddit, I always beg him to stop visiting reddit

[–] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 57 points 4 days ago (8 children)

Apply even an ounce of critical thinking to that, a 2-3 year old working in a factory is a fucking liability. You really think goo goo ga ga ass diaper baby is going to learn how to make widgets? THINK PLEASE

[–] Jabril@hexbear.net 45 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Nothing is more productive than a giant room full of children crying and pissing on the floor

[–] Thordros@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago

I don't know, I hear the USS Gerald R. Ford is doing pretty well right now.

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[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 44 points 4 days ago

wojak-nooo don’t u realize china is 1984 animal farm communism no food tank man???

ligma-1 ligma-2 “so we’ve been told”

[–] Damarcusart@hexbear.net 42 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Funny how the rule of therapists not being supposed to talk about religion or ideology only applies when it isn't racist hatemongering. A therapist encouraging racist and hateful views in their clients is perfectly fine actually.

I'm so glad that the worst therapists I've ever gotten have just been impotent toxic positivity sort of people, I don't think I could handle a therapist saying shit like this at me without blowing up. It is such a breach of trust to say such awful things to people in a vulnerable mental state like that. In a just world they would have their license revoked.

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 30 points 4 days ago (13 children)

Yeah. One time I briefly mentioned socialism, and she went on "If I had more faith in humanity, I'd be a socialist." I just left it there for the time being. Then more recently I mentioned that I had quit my job, but was hoping to do some clerical work for PSL. Not for pay, mind you, (unless they want to pay me, but I assumed it'd just be volunteer work) but to give me a task to do. I mentioned actually being a socialist this time, and she repeated the faith line and said "Someone always gets greedy. Isn't that why, historically, socialism has always failed?" I tried my best not to get angry, but I did challenge it a little bit, as per this post.

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That’s hilarious. I heard the same thing from a Mormon missionary about Brazil. ‘Sad what socialism did to that country’. Say what?

[–] CthulhusIntern@hexbear.net 20 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's also a valid response to literally any comment possible.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 24 points 3 days ago (1 children)
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[–] ephemeral@hexbear.net 32 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (3 children)

2 year olds?? psh that's nothing, I hear they've got newborn babies working in sweatshops over there. women give birth right on the assembly line and it's straight to work, kiddo

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[–] oliveoil@hexbear.net 15 points 3 days ago (2 children)

I can't imagine 2-3 year olds being productive in any labour context.

No fine motor control. Abysmal gross motor control. Limited reasoning skills. Object permenance skills.

Someone with a psychology background should've rubbed their two braincells together on this issue and realize not to listen again to whoever told them this.

The news seems credible, until they talk about your domain - and you see how little sense it makes. She doesn't even care about how much sense it makes.

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[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 37 points 4 days ago (1 children)

DPRK has baby prisons. China has baby slavery.

sickening.

[–] WokePalpatine@hexbear.net 40 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Socialism is when we kick our adult feet up and make all the babies do the work.

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[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 38 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (4 children)

I'm so glad I can openly talk about revolutionary socialist organizing with my therapist. Idk she is probably a lib but always encouraging of what I do

Regardless, your therapist shouldn't be like that at all regardless of their personal ideology or opinions

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[–] WhyEssEff@hexbear.net 33 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

every week I'm boundlessly grateful that my therapist has the politics of Jennifer Welch (i.e. no-enemies-to-my-left radlibism) and that I can talk to her about how much I hate this place and how much I loathe the Dems and how I want to be more active as a communist organizer but also wanting to get a K-Visa and she just nods and essentially goes "yeah that’s a fair assessment."

Sorry you have to deal with one that argues with you like that, they're generally not supposed to be outwardly contentious like that, especially with session-trivial disagreements. I hope better options for you crop up in the future meow-hug

[–] CupcakeOfSpice@hexbear.net 28 points 4 days ago

My guess is she sees socialism as a dangerous and possibly self-destructive ideology and wants to protect me from it? Or maybe the brainworms really are that deep that she can't help but argue. But yeah, thank you for the well-wishes!

[–] Carl@hexbear.net 29 points 4 days ago (3 children)

"...a three year old can't work in a factory, they barely have object permanence."

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[–] buckykat@hexbear.net 34 points 4 days ago (8 children)

All KKKri$$tian missionaries should be shot with arrows

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[–] iByteABit@hexbear.net 34 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Fetuses, old enough for pro-lifers to keep their witch burning torches at the ready, are reportedly working 996 at factories in Beijing

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[–] MohammedTheCommunistPalestinian@hexbear.net 18 points 4 days ago (6 children)

"Well, missionaries... anyway!"

what does this mean???????????

[–] shath@hexbear.net 18 points 3 days ago

but the missionaries said they saw xi jinping himself blow a child's head schmoove off

the god botherers would never lie for the benefit of the church would they

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