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A ^fake^ email. It reads: From: Linus Torvalds torvalds@linux-foundation.org To: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org Subject: [RFC] Remove IPv4 support from kernel, effective next merge window Date: Sat, 15 Aug 2025 10:42:00 -0700 Message-ID: 20250815-drop-ipv4@linux-foundation.org

Hey folks,

After yet another deeply technical and entirely calm discussion about HRT (High-Resolution Timers) that somehow devolved into 200+ replies, personal insults, and at least one GIF of a raccoon, I have decided it’s time to take drastic measures.

Effective next merge window, we will be removing IPv4 support from the kernel. This will both (a) resolve the maintainers’ scheduling disputes, and (b) force the world into the IPV6 utopia we were promised back in 1998.

If you need IPv4 after this point, you can either:

run an ancient kernel from before the change (good luck with the bugs), or rewrite your applications to use IPv6 and learn to love colons in your addresses. Yes, I realize this will break roughly *everything *. No, I don’t care. I have already switched all my machines to IPv6-only, except for the toaster, which unfortunately still insists on using a 192. 168. x. x address. The toaster will be replaced.

If you disagree with this decision, I suggest you take it up with the HRT maintainers. But please keep it civil this time. (Or at least keep the raccoon GIFs under 1MB.)

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[–] herseycokguzelolacak@lemmy.ml 31 points 1 day ago (1 children)

ipv4 does not deserve the hate it gets. The congestion caused by the small number of ipv4 addresses is actually really good for privacy, and makes ip based tracking very difficult.

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 5 points 15 hours ago

That's why IPv6 has privacy extensions which periodically rotate your address

[–] BlackLaZoR@lemmy.world 9 points 23 hours ago
[–] apftwb@lemmy.world 135 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 47 points 1 day ago

Me too. This is the only one that fooled me at first today. Ill take it. If you have to make a joke about ip addresses and the kernel to fool me, then I guess I'm still pretty sharp.

[–] myotheraccount@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

The internet is just a fad anyway

[–] SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org 13 points 1 day ago (1 children)

HRT maintainers? So trans people?

[–] Agent641@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

For the hyper text TRANS port layer (the socks)

[–] SailorMoss@sh.itjust.works 3 points 16 hours ago

Ahh… so the Unix socks people. Glad we could clear up that ambiguity.

[–] fubarx@lemmy.world 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

On this day of global reconciliation, they should split the difference and go for ipv5.

[–] nonentity@sh.itjust.works 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)

You mean IPvV?

I prefer the combination of IPv4 and IPv6 as a Dual Stack, call it IPvX.

[–] Sir_Simon_Spamalot@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] faintwhenfree@lemmus.org 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] rmuk@feddit.uk 2 points 17 hours ago

i = (1÷Md)×blow

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

That's how we got the Ellipse of Hormuz

[–] 667@lemmy.radio 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Only in non-Euclidean geometry.

[–] FauxLiving@lemmy.world 2 points 17 hours ago

On the complex plane.

[–] some_guy 72 points 1 day ago

Now that's some April Fools trolling done right.

[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 86 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)
[–] irelephant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 1 day ago

uhhh, don't look too close at the dates in the email.

[–] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 26 points 1 day ago

Based and v6 pilled.

[–] carotte@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago

the only truth when it comes to which type of hrt is better is this:

any hrt >>>>> no hrt

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 49 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Honestly, I get this is a joke...but it unironically wouldn't impact me, I run single stack v6, so let's do it. I'll grab some popcorn

[–] nucleative@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Isn't like 50% of the internet broken for you if you're only running IPv6? It seems like so many websites , especially small ones, still aren't setting up v6 addresses

[–] Scoopta@programming.dev 23 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Small ones are actually often better than big ones. I have a love hate relationship with cloudflare, they contribute to internet centralization but it IPv6 enables so many sites transparently and they only let you turn it off if you're an enterprise customer. So some guy using free cloudflare has IPv6 but not discord, ironic. That being said I have NAT64+DNS64 which lets me access the remaining legacy v4 services without having v4 on my network or devices. Although according to my firewall stats over 90% of my traffic is v6 native, the remainder is NAT64. Honestly the only services I use on a regular basis which don't work if I disable NAT64, discord, steam, and my bank. Everything else I use is v6 native, YT, Crunchyroll, lemmy (this instance), even steam downloads (just not login ironically).

[–] moonshadow@slrpnk.net 5 points 1 day ago

I tried to do this but am too old, too dumb, or a little bit of both. Shine on my dude, if there's any resources you found particularly helpful I'd love to see them. Got as far as getting an address from my isp but couldn't even ping it x(

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[–] lvxferre@mander.xyz 33 points 1 day ago



\

Just in case you guys want to fight each other like kernel devs, and need some raccoon GIFs for that.
GIF is pronounced /ɣi:f/ by the way.

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 56 points 1 day ago (1 children)

God I fucking wish. I hate ipv6 but I hate this split world even more. Nothing but headaches.

[–] Janx@piefed.social 35 points 1 day ago (6 children)

It may be inevitable, but if you wonder why ipv6 has been slow to adopt, it's because no one want to type in 32 alphanumeric digits for every single device, every time...

[–] djsaskdja@reddthat.com 31 points 1 day ago

Just give OpenClaw unrestricted access to your system and make the AI do it. /s

[–] vividspecter@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

it’s because no one want to type in 32 alphanumeric digits for every single device, every time…

Use DNS; I almost never type in an IP manually. You can also make short IPv6 addresses that are just the prefix and a bunch of zeros using '::' followed by one (or more) characters.

Something like:

2001:0DB8::1

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 6 points 1 day ago

2001:db8::1

Fixed it for you

[–] mushroommunk@lemmy.today 10 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I mean I did say I hate ipv6...

But seriously, I think it has more to do with it's slightly different, easier for ISPs to just add another NAT layer or whatever instead of learn the minor differences.

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If you are typing 32 chars for a IPv6 address you are doing it wrong

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[–] LordCrom@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Maybe we drop ethernet all together and go back to tokenring?

[–] anton@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 23 hours ago

wrong layer

[–] renegadespork@lemmy.jelliefrontier.net 35 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

High Resolution Timers aren't even the most controversial HRT.

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[–] SteveTech@aussie.zone 13 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Damn, you didn't even need to fake it, it's already happening: https://lore.kernel.org/lkml/20260401074509.1897527-1-dwmw2@infradead.org/

Sure it's still just a joke, but there is a follow up:

The date notwithstanding, I do actually think we should do most of this for real.

[–] Crackhappy@lemmy.world 24 points 1 day ago (3 children)

Finally some welcome news. I'm tired of simple easy to understand addressing.

[–] InnerScientist@lemmy.world 21 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Also, DNS is now depricated and will be removed in the merge window after the ipv4 removal. This will fix 90% of all networking problems.

[–] bluGill@fedia.io 8 points 1 day ago

The kernel doesn't deal with DNS, that is a separate process/library

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[–] Labna@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

I was hoping they drop TCP/IP scam finally... But no. The only network protocole you need is rina.
Many have already make the step, learn about it right now to be ready for the futur.

[–] fallaciousBasis@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Aproofoools

[–] Jankatarch@lemmy.world 15 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] birdwing@lemmy.blahaj.zone 11 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)
[–] rc__buggy@sh.itjust.works 16 points 1 day ago

I really gotta see this racoon gif

[–] trackball_fetish@lemmy.wtf 6 points 1 day ago

Nice try nerd

[–] LiveLM@lemmy.zip 10 points 1 day ago (1 children)

If we magically got rid of IPv4, I do wonder if the world would decay to a state of utter chaos like the tabloids were touting for Y2K

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[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 4 points 1 day ago
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