Slop.

The funniest part about this nonsense is the fact the socialists won the debate 100 years ago, but it just didn't matter because the capitalists embraced fascism and red scare politics and killed millions of people to bury that academic and concrete economic victory

The existence of supercomputers simply makes what was once a moderately laborious process into a trivial afterthought

Course if you asked these neoliberal dorks if central planning doesn't work then how the fuck do multinational corporations exist? They'll get a glazed look in their eyes as they realize they never bothered to even define terms like "centralized" and "economic planning"

It's kind of a lib book, but the people's republic of Walmart (or whatever it's called) shows that central planning and logistics have advanced so much that it's far more achievable than it used to be.

I've also worked doing demand planning and transport logistics for huge supermarket chains and food companies... They manage pretty well, even without supercomputers or fancy optimization algorithms. The systems that already work pretty well could be largely left alone, just changing the key variable from profit to some measure of social benefit. Of course, not every organization has good logistics or planning, nor it's easy to get there, but it is possible!

I have my own criticisms of central planning models, mostly when it comes to governance and community consultation, but it's silly to look at the current global trade networks and say: nope, no planning here! It's impossible to coordinate people towards a common goal if they're motivated to achieve it!

If everything can't be planned then just plan as much as you can ? There really isn't an argument against planning, the people who are vehemently against it are just interested in having a market and empowering the class that runs that market. Being anti-planning is just absurd.

Liberals : even with supercomputers we couldn't manage economic planning!

European countries in 1914:

Programmers deal with this all the time. If we did map directions to find the "best" route, it would take longer than the heat death of the universe. Instead we fudge it, break it down into smaller components, use heuristics, and then select a good enough answer. It's no different for Cybernetics.

Oh god I listened to some of this since it showed up in the Jacobin feed I subscribe to for some reason. It's extremely bad. Very typical economist-brained professor and a sycophantic cohost going over the most basic-bitch arguments against central planning (the information problem, and incentive structures are hard)

Somebody should tell them china exists.

amazon will preship goods based on aggregate wishlists, and ai will price items exclusively for your paygrade, but you, dear consumer, will always think it's something that happened by vibes.

i do think final goods is whatever for central planning, more trouble than worth, basic commodities however are a must

I think this is also an interesting example of the concept of Zombie Ideas, except in this case it's expanded into a new concept of a Zombie Debate where neoliberals argue themselves into an untenable and exploded position regarding the empirical and quantifiable beneficial reality of planning

Jacobin

Verso

it's obviously worse and ineffective but if you try it we will invade you

Is this even a psyop? I don't feel psyopped, I just feel confused.