Andor is the best Star Wars related content ive seen in a very long time. It checked all the boxes.
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Stellan Skarsgård’s monologue as Luthen Rael in S1 is… chillingly good. And I identify with it more and more every day.
Also:
ONE WAY OUT
😭😭😭
That series is full of amazing monologues.
Agreed! And it increased my enjoyment of Rogue One, which speaks to how good it is I think.
Rogue One is a better star wars entry than the mainline films, and Andor is a cut above that.
Rogue One was enjoyable. Andor was great sci-fi, even could have stood alone outside of the Star Wars universe.
Andor was an incredibly well-crafted story that just so happened to fit nicely within the Star Wars universe. Part of what made it so good was that it didn't rely on established Star Wars success patterns to be successful, it took the risk of doing its own thing. Some people criticize it for that because they think Star Wars is just another action flick like Need For Speed or John Wick.
In other news, 2+2=4!
Both are very enjoyable but Andor is in another league in terms of storytelling and acting imo.
No, 2 + 2 ≠ 24
I watched Andor seasons 1 and 2 then watched Rogue One. If I saw Rogue One first, there's no way I would have watched Andor.
Rogue One had zero character development. The plot was way too rushed. It was an OK movie at best and nowhere near Andor
Rogue one is a terrible movie that ends with the best fan service battle of all time.
I'm not a Star Wars guy but a friend talked me into Andor and I'm so glad he did. It has none of the elements that made me shy away from the franchise.
Rogue One, on the other hand, has almost all of those elements. Bad pacing, predictable "twists," characters I'm told to care about but never learn enough about.
I'm glad it did but I was shocked that people liked Cassian enough in Rogue One to make the show. He was so one dimensional!
I'll get hate for it, but I honestly think Andor is a 6 or 7 out of ten that feels a lot better due to the absolute garbage that has been Disney Star wars. Andor has pacing issues and tons of characters that don't ultimately matter, but the good bits are really good.
To each their own but I appreciated the amount of characters because it drove home how many people are involved to make something happen. There were a few arcs i wish ended sooner and one predictable death I found very annoying, though.
I agree with the conclusion but I cannot understand why people continue to read the ____rant websites. Just the worst writing on the internet.
My observation is: Star Wars is best without lightsabers.
Star wars is best with writers and directors that respect the source material and tell a story within it rather than paint their story to look like Star wars.
I think even more important is that they tell a story they want to tell, and are interested in. Anyone can make Star Wars slop. To make something like Andor requires passion.
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what did I like about Andor?
Rogue one was great but Star Wars got messed up by Rian Johnson. Otherwise it makes great sense. The shortened fan edits even more so…
Rian needs to fuck off into the night à la Star Wars…
Knives out is cool.
There's no sense in going back and forth about this. However, the reason why the later movies failed was because of JJ Abrams and his puzzle box bullshit. The last Jedi is the third best core storyline movie in the Star wars franchise, behind episode 4 and episode 3.
Yea there is some sense in going over this given that JJabrams trilogy plans with Lawrence Kasdan have been leaked and known.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=NhjzADFObBQ
You can look into it just like the entirety of the internet. It’s okay we already know. Even if you are desperate to wave it off, via ignorance or obstinance.
His original trilogy plans weren’t prefect and kinda went off the rails at the end but the plan was cohesive and could’ve been saved.
But Rian Johnson specifically asked to throw out that whole treatment and do his own thing.
Hence you can see shit go off the rails for two movies and JJ desperately trying to shoe horn in his original plans to salvage the whole thing. You can literally see elements of his original plan in the last film but they make no sense because of the second film. It’s a shit show.
It’s a shit show and a total fuck up but yea there is no sense in going back and forth about this with you if you haven’t even considered half of it so stop bothering.
Why would somebody as force sensitive as Luke not know his best friend in the entire universe was killed by his son? Leia knew. Are you saying Leia is more force-sensitive than luke?
Jj Abrams did not understand the fundamental canon of Star wars. The force awakens completely ignored the logic set up in the original trilogy. Rian Johnson had to come in and create a movie that honored the logic of the original trilogy while also connecting it to the logical mess that was Abram's ham-fisted attempt. The last Jedi was perhaps the best execution that could have happened trying to correct Abram's ham fisted efforts.
Rian Johnson's movie was the only good one in that whole trilogy though
HARD disagree.
Johnson’s a great director but he threw out the Abram’s and Kasdans three film treatment and made shit up in the fly that didn’t fit with the first or third film in the trilogy.
The whole movie is the rebellion running around in a circle. Mark Hammil was on record for thinking his character was all wrong.
Lea force pulling out of no where.
It’s a huge fucking mess with what little redeeming qualities it had were meaningless in the larger trilogy story.
The rest of the trilogy was just "let's rip off the original trilogy, surely nobody will notice, also Palpatine somehow returned", so making shit up on the fly was honestly the right decision there
Plus, Rey being basically a nobody was much better than the weird borderline fashy "she's from a Great Bloodline" shit
hot take, rogue one was when i knew the franchise would never come back. we went from inscrutable philosophy and heavy-handed metaphors in the prequel trilogy, into a universe built entirely on reference and spectacle. i really did not enjoy it and from what i can tell everything afterwards leans into that more.
and then, the sequel trilogy completely disconnected me from star wars. i don't know how it managed but it sucked all the fun out of it. i have so many books, so many old lego sets, so many games and toys, and i never want to touch any of it again.
Are you sure you're talking about Rogue One and not The Force Awakens?
the prequel thing with the airshield from spaceballs, yes
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1,2,3,4,5?!
Do you know how many Bothans died to bring us this!?
Fine, whatever, just get it into the targeting computers.
none, if that film is to be believed
Are you seeing someone about this?
the depressive episode was definitely part of it but even with that handled i still don't like rogue one.
Just checking, because you're in a Star Wars community. If you've really soured so much on Star Wars it might be time to unsubscribe, unless you're seeking negativity for negativities sake.
i only browse all.
Block community will block it from browse all FYI. (At least in my client)
If that's what you're looking to do I mean.
i'm not :)
Lmao imagine. "Psych, I don't like Star Wars anymore, can you help me?"
More about the fact that they hate Star Wars and are here in a star wars community just to complain about it.
i don't. i loved it once, and i keep coming back to see if i can again.
i really thought the sequel trilogy could be saved. rian johnson really had something, he understood the source material like few others, but then disney just steamrolled everything. after that it has all felt the same.
Have you watched Andor? I'm right there with you, but Andor is different. It somehow gets away from all the garbage Star Wars has become. It's the only Star Wars thing I've enjoyed for the longest time, and the only one I've watched since Obi Wan.
i thought that obi wan thing just came out. i don't care much for star wars in show format, and spending 20 hours on a story in the hopes that i may enjoy it feels like a waste of time. having dipped into star trek recently i've come to realise how much i love the syndicated show format where you can watch episodes in basically any order. the barrier to entry is much lower.
also having been in the sw fandom for over 20 years before being pulled out i'm wary of its tastes. a lot of it just boils down to pattern matching.
Obi Wan was about four years ago, in 2022.
I understand your position perfectly. Star Wars had been a part of my life since I was born basically. I also had a good ~20 years like Star Wars, then a while being skeptical, to now hating everything it's become.
Again though, Andor is a different beast. It is some of the best media ever made, in my opinion, not just Star Wars. Honestly, it's good despite SW, not because of it. Especially if you're on the more leftist side of politics, you'll enjoy seeing the things Star Wars was never brave enough to show.
Modern SW is all about trying to fit stuff you already recognize into anything they can. The story doesn't matter. If it can be made into a toy, even better. Andor is the opposite. There's very little merchandising opportunities, and almost every character is new. The only ones who aren't are Andor himself (who no one cared about), Senator Mon Mothma, and Saw Gerrera.
It doesn't use the crutch of nostalgia. It doesn't rely on old characters, and it doesn't even take place on planets shown in SW before. It is adament about making itself good enough on its own. Seriously, it's worth watching.
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