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[–] Zexks@lemmy.world 1 points 40 minutes ago

That judge should be held just as liable as the parents

[–] SnarkoPolo@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

But we're FREE. And when open carry is forced on California, people will have so much freedom, they'll die from freedom and go to the Lord.

[–] glimse@lemmy.world 5 points 3 hours ago (1 children)

This isn't remotely similar to an onion headline. Why does it have 350 upvotes

[–] Arrkk@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

‘No Way To Prevent This,’ Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens - The Onion https://theonion.com/no-way-to-prevent-this-says-only-nation-where-this-r-1848971668/

[–] manxu@piefed.social 9 points 6 hours ago

It's very troubling that so many men in America know only one way to express emotions: anger. This kid sounds mostly just heart-broken and lonely, and yet he manages to use healthy emotions, albeit negative, to fuel an increasingly destructive rage.

Expressing sadness and loneliness as anger is bound to make both worse. It's as if American society had given this kid only one way out of his predicament, and that way out is in fact going to cost lives.

[–] MrSulu@lemmy.ml 21 points 8 hours ago

In unrelated news, US citizens with unflattering memes of any White House official continue to be detained for national security reasons.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 7 points 7 hours ago

Tell me a story about the US without telling me it's about the US. What a sad story.

[–] Hupf@feddit.org 36 points 11 hours ago

No Way to Prevent This

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 110 points 18 hours ago (22 children)

The teen’s father then informed police that he had 12 registered firearms in the home and assured detectives that he would secure them, the documents show.

No one in the world needs twelve firearms.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub 6 points 3 hours ago (1 children)
[–] Hupf@feddit.org 3 points 1 hour ago

The answer is Love and Peace!

[–] Akasazh@lemmy.world 5 points 7 hours ago

No you see they need it to protect themselves from an evil governement that supports people, violates the constitution and harbors criminals, whilst threatening most of their allies and teaming up with genocidal regimes.

They will put these arms to their intended use any minute now...

AAaany minute now.

[–] sureshot0@discuss.online 19 points 13 hours ago (4 children)

Come on Lemmy, you can't have it both ways. How are we going to stage a massive revolution and die horribly in the process if we don't have a shit ton of guns?

[–] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 13 hours ago

Fewer guns leaves more room in the safe (& budget) for ammunition.

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[–] Tollana1234567@lemmy.today 4 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

he assured them, but dint actually do it. if someone has and wants 12 firearms, they are unlikely to fully secure them at all. they probably have it stashed all in one place or multiple places for easy acces. thats how these ammosexuals think.

[–] Tudsamfa@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago (2 children)

they probably have it stashed all in one place or multiple places

This does read as if you're mad no matter what they do.

[–] huppakee@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

Somehow i read that quote as if Trump spoke it

[–] njordomir@lemmy.world 45 points 18 hours ago (13 children)

I mean, if you hunt deer, pheasant, small game, target shoot, and have a handgun or two for home defense, that's already 6ish guns right there. If you have any heirlooms or collector items that are firearms, that's a few more. I don't have 12 guns, but I don't have a hard time picturing why someone might, especially an entire family who hunts and does outdoorsy things. Then again I live in the western US and outdoor recreation is huge here.

Though if you don't have any sense of responsibility, you shouldn't have any guns either. If anyone disagrees with that, I don't know if logic can reach them!

[–] VeganBtw@piefed.social 69 points 18 hours ago (10 children)

I don't mean to sound insensitive to your culture, but there are other activities that can be done outdoors, can you tell your country please?

Even though I'm very glad that I live in a country where guns are heavily restricted, I can't deny that shooting is kinda fun.

[–] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 40 points 16 hours ago

We know. There's also paintball, and dynamite fishing!

/s

[–] ThatGuy46475@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

You mean bow hunting like a caveman?

[–] Truscape@lemmy.blahaj.zone 7 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

We don't have walkable cities, and in rural areas infrastructure may be so underwhelming that shooting stuff might be the best you can hope for excitement.

(Fortunately it's usually in a non harmful way like target shooting or plinking).

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[–] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 8 points 13 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago)

I do lots of outdoor recreation, mountain biking, swimming, hiking, basketball...

Or did you mean gun-based recreation is huge there?

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[–] southsamurai@sh.itjust.works 3 points 13 hours ago (5 children)

Need?

Who cares about need.

When it comes right down to it, nobody needs more than one of most things.

But in reality, there is a limit to how much "you" (as in someone that is trying to limit someone else's access to something) should be allowed to limit said thing without both due process and significant cause. When something is a fundamental right (and anyone with multiple firearms is definitely of the mind that firearms are a natural extension of fundamental rights, so long as they exist at all), you, me, the government simply shouldn't be able to declare that anyone has to show need to exercise that right.

To the contrary, suppression of rights has to be done only under extreme and unusual circumstances.

Now, from your comment, I doubt you consider the right to defense as extending to firearms. That's fine, I'm not debating that by this comment (and won't, it bores the fuck out of me because nobody ever has anything new to bring to the debate). I'm just saying that if something is a right, placing your idea of need on it simply isn't acceptable.

A dozen, a hundred, a thousand, it doesn't matter. All that matters is that the right exists. And, in the US it is a specifically enumerated right. There's wiggle room on when rights can be curtailed, suppressed. We do it all the time. But it can't be done lightly, and shouldn't be based on some arbitrary, ill defined standard of need.

That being said, the role of a handgun vs a shotgun vs a rifle at least points to three use cases that can't be met by the others. Since different calibers of ammunition have discrete properties, it can also be said that significantly different rounds would fulfill different roles (you shoot a squirrel with a .50 cal, you ain't scraping up enough to roast). Just based on that concept, it would be easy to point to at least six different firearms being "needed" to fulfill roles.

If you have multiple people using the firearms, you can need different ones for each person.

So twelve? It really isn't that many. I've seen hunters that will regularly use at least twelve different rifles in a year, sometimes more, depending on how often they can find time to hunt. Ignoring any debate about hunting being something you or I support, it is a use case that is common enough to merit the term need when it comes to the tools used to do it.

Now me? I don't need that many. Not a hunter, don't compete in shooting sports, don't even target shoot as a regular hobby. But you sure as hell don't get to decide what I do and don't need. Nor does anyone else without the application of due process and just cause.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 0 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In the case of U.S. gun regulation at least, I don't think a piece of paper from over two hundred years ago declaring firearm ownership as an inherent right supersedes the extreme level of gun violence that has long been occurring and largely ignored.

Limited and highly regulated gun ownership for hunting or collecting is one thing, but there wouldn't be a need for people to amass arsenals of weapons for 'self-defense' if guns weren't so prevalent in the first place. Other first world countries do not have the gun problem the U.S. has.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

In the case of U.S. gun regulation at least, I don’t think a piece of paper from over two hundred years ago declaring firearm ownership as an inherent right supersedes the extreme level of gun violence that has long been occurring and largely ignored.

Trump or someone like him was inevitable. Even the "good guys" want the boot so fucking bad.

[–] Zedstrian@sopuli.xyz 2 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Individual gun ownership cannot hold a candle to the gross extent to which American police departments are armed and militarized. The notion of a 'well-armed militia' safeguarding individual rights from a tyrannical government hasn't been relevant for most of the country's history.

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[–] Archangel1313@lemmy.ca 42 points 18 hours ago (3 children)

Seriously, how do you "dress up like Dexter Morgan"? Was he wearing a polo shirt and khakis?

[–] FUCKING_CUNO@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 18 hours ago

I had the same thought. Maybe with a clear parka over top?

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[–] saltesc@lemmy.world 33 points 17 hours ago

That order was temporarily granted, and the father stated he would place the 12 guns in storage.

The United States is such a fucking weird place, man.

[–] devolution@lemmy.world 20 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Why do these Spanish pick mes think they are white supremacists? Like I don't get it.

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

Spaniards are Caucasian Europeans and they ruled their colonies with bigotry, murder and racism.

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