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hahaha jokes on you I have no money for retirement anyway

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[–] FloridaBoi@hexbear.net 37 points 6 days ago (1 children)

iirc they did something similar with Tesla although nowhere near as egregious. Trueanon had an episode where Liz talked about this manipulation to make everyone passively invested in Tesla and now they’re doing it even worse with SpaceX which has the absolute wildest prospectus

[–] red_giant@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

A $22.5 trillion addressable market, 20 trillion of which is AI, justified by the fact SpaceX leases compute time to Anthropic

An absolute dumpster fire

[–] Bronstein_Tardigrade@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 6 days ago (1 children)

My brother's 401k lost half its value in the 2008 crash and, despite the latest meteoric rise in stock, he never got it back. Now I see how it happened. You might want to cash out while you still can.

[–] hellinkilla@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago (5 children)

You might want to cash out while you still can.

What does that even mean though?

For a 401k or similar? Move all your shit to indexed bond funds, most likely. You will just barely break even on inflation, but the crash shouldn't completely decimate your retirement account. Then again, with the petrodollar on its way out (inshallah), I don't even know that this is valid advice anymore.

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 12 points 6 days ago (1 children)

not sure what OP meant, but depending on what your retirement account looks like, control wise, you can "rebalance" your assets to the lowest risk funds. generally those include money market funds, which are highly liquid and tend to only "grow" at or under 1% and their management fees eat even a piece of that. they have pretty strict requirements of diversification and the asset classes are all shit like currencies, treasury bonds, short term secured loans, etc. i think even during the GFC 2007-2008 it was a huge deal that some of the money market funds from banks that went under dropped 2-3% during the crisis and that exacerbated panic since these funds aren't supposed to "break" (decrease in value at all) even during a total shitshow. my understanding is that part of the treasury / TARP bailout was to cover that 2-3% loss even. of course, if congress ever did the thing where they let the government default, that would probably make those funds go haywire and probably induce a coup because the capitalist class relies heavily on treasury bonds.

one could try to actually cash out early, but the taxes owed on early disbursements from retirement accounts are generally prohibitive since retirement accounts are built around deferred taxation. so you basically take a lot off the top if you do that.

anyway, all this assumes like the dollar doesn't become worthless or there isn't a revolution, because then all bets are off and what would a bag of cash in hand be worth then anyway? more or less than a bag of potatoes?

[–] wheresmysurplusvalue@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago (1 children)

Suddenly I'm glad I just changed jobs, since it allowed me to rollover my 401k into an IRA and I can actually pick non-shit funds or just hold it in cash for a minute

[–] KuroXppi@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago (2 children)

rollover my 401k into an IRA

anti-thatcher-action

[–] corgiwithalaptop@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

TELL THEM HOW THE IRA MADE YOU INVEST ANYWAY IN THE FREE AND FALLING STOCKS OF THE MARKETS

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[–] lucidity@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

I wonder if anyone sells delayed annuities where you pay for it now but don't collect til normal retirement age?

The financial hit you take from cashing in your 401k now, will be less than the loss you'll suffer when the shite hits the economic fan again.

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[–] LaughingLion@hexbear.net 26 points 6 days ago

my dad has money invested in this im not even joking all i can do is say "the stock market is a casino never bet what you cant afford to lose" but then again hes got retirement from like 3 sources so hes insulated

[–] Rom@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

All of this shit is made up and money isn't real. Give me healthcare.

[–] microfiche@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago (2 children)

For how long has the game been rigged? This is just further proof that none of it means anything, that even more of the rules can be changed at any time to benefit the haves at the expense of the have-nots.

The shark has been jumped long ago, but the shit keeps getting more and more brazen.

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

For how long has the game been rigged?

Since March 20th 1602

[–] calidris@hexbear.net 5 points 6 days ago

Always has been. They've just utilized people's complacency to unabashedly take a more than ever before.

[–] Assian_Candor@hexbear.net 20 points 6 days ago
[–] Beaver@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

I begrudgingly have to accept that Elon is some type of genius. He has convinced the entire stock market to be his bagholder on his quest to become a trillionaire.

[–] segfault11@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago (1 children)

we need some boomer on the verge of retirement to step up luigi-dance

Gen X Luigi, but it's literally a guy named Qbert. The FBI starts arresting all Quincy Burtons in the US as a precaution.

[–] mayakovsky@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

So deeply irresponsible

[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

It’s all Trump Bux now, he’s enmeshed, now Elon is enmeshing. Gross. It’s all so gross.

[–] RION@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

From the bogleheads (emphasis mine):

"... VTI (and most index funds for that matter) are free float adjusted. Meaning space x is selling less than 5% of the company, so it’s treated at the less than 5% of the 1.75 trillion that is reported. It will not make it a top 10 company like it would if the whole company was sold. It will be a more like $50-100 billion company depending on the exact numbers. As they sell more VTI will slowly have more."

Essentially this will have a fairly minor impact on most people's 401ks. If you are very concerned it may be worth checking the funds you're invested in to see if they're free float adjusted or not.

[–] chgxvjh@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

lmao

They are really slaughtering all their golden geese right now.

[–] roux@hexbear.net 7 points 6 days ago

So... pull out my 401k?

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