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Failing grades soar as professors see greater AI usage, dwindling math skills in UC Berkeley computer science classes (www.dailycal.org)
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[–] PocketFish@lemmy.ml 12 points 13 hours ago

This wouldn’t be a problem if the jobs that don’t actually require a degree (so jobs that aren’t doctors, engineers, etc.) wouldn’t require one

For example, my job can be done by anyone who can write well enough and knows our local language, plus English. I’ve got a C2 English certificate plus a state English exam

But nooo, some suit decided that this job that I’ve already been doing for 10 years without a degree suddenly ABSOLUTELY REQUIRES one, or I’d get fired

So I went to a lesser known university, cheated and bribed my way through, didn’t learn shit, but suddenly that useless paper is more valuable than my last 10 years of experience

[–] JoMiran@lemmy.ml 65 points 1 day ago (6 children)

Imagine paying for college and using AI to skip the learning part.

[–] GamingChairModel@lemmy.world 10 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

I went to the gym and used a forklift to lift the weights.

[–] chonglibloodsport@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

I try to use this analogy everywhere. It’s perfect!

[–] teft@piefed.social 55 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Because a lot of people don’t see college as a learning opportunity but as an earnings opportunity since most high paying jobs require a degree. Money being involved corrupts the whole learning process.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 3 points 3 hours ago

That's a degree mill, not a university.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 21 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

Because those idiots just want the paper and a job and $$. The problem with this genius plan is sooner or later it catches up with them , when they get fired or kicked out of med school or grad school.

We have never had as many professional faculties kick students out as in the last 2 years at my university. All entered with A+ transcripts. My own courses are now 100% back to paper quizzes, and digital notes will not be shared and 1/3 of lectures are back to the chalkboard. When they learn this on first lecture, 1/4 drop the course -don't let the door hit your asses on the way out. Have fun in PSYCH.

[–] FearMeAndDecay@literature.cafe 3 points 10 hours ago

As someone else above pointed out, part of the problem is that degrees are required for damn near any job that isn’t customer service. Most young people are told over and over again that they NEED to go to college. They’re not there to learn or bc they want to prepare for a specific job. They’re there bc they HAVE to

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

lol I left a similar comment. this tracks with my experience

[–] wonderingwanderer@sopuli.xyz 2 points 14 hours ago

Because US colleges are becoming degree mills.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 8 points 21 hours ago (2 children)

I work at a university and also have many degrees. You'd be amazed at the number of times I have heard people tell me that they aren't interested in learning, they just want the paper so that they can get a job. For many people, improvement and growth aren't part of the equation, they are only focusing on a future paycheck.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 6 points 20 hours ago (2 children)

This tracks with a deteriorating society where status and connections are more important than skills or knowledge.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 16 hours ago

Typical MBA.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

Except when it matters, like building a bridge or heading into a serious surgery.

[–] schipelblorp@sh.itjust.works 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

That's when you follow your degree with an MBA, so you can run things and don't need to know anything about anything other than fellating your boss.

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 3 points 15 hours ago

Fuck MBAs.

Sincerely, a data analyst that regularly has to deal with number-junkies so high on their own buzzwords they struggle to comprehend the petty constraints we people who actually want to measure facts are burdened with.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

they navigate a degree constantly pinging reddit for the bird courses then post "where's my $200,000 job" like they are victims.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 1 points 16 hours ago

This does happen. It's also why I suggest that most people probably shouldn't study CS. CE/EE is a much more stable field.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 37 points 22 hours ago (6 children)

Not that it matters, I’ve been a developer for 15 years and unemployed for the last 18 months. There are no jobs right now, and it doesn’t seem like there’s going to be any anytime soon.

[–] vane@lemmy.world 1 points 30 minutes ago

There are SD jobs in India. That's what companies mean by AI.

[–] quick_snail@feddit.nl 1 points 3 hours ago

Developers are not computer scientists.

There's software engineering degrees with less math reqs if you just want to be a code monkey

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 18 points 18 hours ago* (last edited 18 hours ago)

I've been in industry for 10 years, got let go and have also been unemployed. The industry is terrible right now. I'm looking to career switch because I'd rather make less money doing something I love than continue to put a paycheck above my morals.

My hope is that after the bubble pops, the engineers who haven't had their brains rotted away by AI tools become much more valuable

[–] vala@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 16 hours ago

We are the same person...

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

You could make a start-up search-engine that reliably filters out any AI content.

$10 per year subs. I'll be your first subscriber :]

[–] luciferofastora@feddit.org 6 points 15 hours ago (1 children)

Reliably detecting AI content would require AI to be reliable in the first place in order to be clearly detectable.

Unless you serve no results at all, of course.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 0 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 13 hours ago) (1 children)

Crowd-sourced flagging could identify the AI or non-AI content, along with white listing certain trusted domains.

You only need to clear the top 2 pages of each search query string, because that is pretty much all people use.

[–] christian@lemmy.ml 2 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Unfortunately there will be many users more likely to flag viewpoints they disagree with than actual AI, so you'll end up creating people who associate AI-flagging with censorship.

[–] Crashumbc@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago (1 children)

Exactly, plus if it becomes popular at all. Corporate bad actors will intentionally poison the results.

[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 1 points 54 minutes ago

Not if you hand the voting power out randomly, like early Slashdot. Every 300th-2000th visitor gets to vote on the content.

[–] ramble81@lemmy.zip 8 points 20 hours ago (3 children)

Which is weird because I have an opening for multiple devs yet all I’m getting are bots.

[–] atomicbocks@sh.itjust.works 10 points 20 hours ago

Where?!? We recently moved to the largest city in my state and I still haven’t had any better luck. I’ve applied to over 150 jobs and had two interviews 14 months apart… I had a recruiter tell me that they’ve only had a couple jobs go by their desk in the last few months, and each of them was for a very very specific software stack. And the worst part is that the amount of spam calls that I get tell me that half of these jobs have just been honey pots.

[–] thedeadwalking4242@lemmy.world 4 points 16 hours ago

Send me the application I'll apply

[–] joeljoelle@piefed.blahaj.zone 8 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure it's only happening at Berkeley :P

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago

At Harvard students aren't even showing up to lectures.

In a few years, you can wipe your ass with those degrees.

[–] stoly@lemmy.world 3 points 21 hours ago

What's unusual about this is that to get into Berkeley CS you're already a super elite student. AI hasn't been around for so long that these people cheated through high school.

[–] roserose56@lemmy.zip 1 points 19 hours ago

The question is: to cheat or not to cheat and use your brain?