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And now the narrative has shifted to doing things fast without understanding. Otherwise you'll be antiquated and outclassed.

It is true. I feel left behind—like I don't belong in a world infested with ai slop.

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[–] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 5 points 2 hours ago

What has gotten me about the recent decade of change is the devaluation of creativity.

I have an art degree but work in tech (and am a working artist, but that's beside the point) and being able to approach complex problems creatively sets a person apart from other people in a very positive way. My team at my day job is made of four different people with unique perspectives and when building something new, we all test it because we all notice different things and end up having different suggestions for ways to improve it.

However, things don't always work, and that's the other half of creativity: identifying and dreaming up methods to work around processes that do not function correctly without creating negative impacts to users and other folks involved in the project.

And in another ten years it's eminently possible that I'll be working with a person in their 20's who cannot function without putting a prompt into a machine.

[–] Seppo@sopuli.xyz 9 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

It started over a decade ago, maybe more. In my 20's I hung out with people who had studied computer science at some very prestigious schools. The typical "I vote for the right, because I'm very smart and should be allowed to do whatever I want"-types.

Their attitude was that you should never learn anything that you're not making money from or is getting paid to learn, because they thought the brain has limited space.

[–] BarnWolf@lemmy.world 6 points 6 hours ago

I've had this sense that all these data centers being built will eventually be these deserted mega complexes. Some not even being completely built. Once the bubble pops. It'll be some real dystopian/backroom type shit until they get repurposed into something else.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 33 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

Gonna be unpopular here but here it goes anyway.

The promotion of free thought and "using your brain" was a remnant of lies told to you in your childhood. We are (correctly to a degree) associating this with AI because it is the current evolution of working class control. However, it is not unique in its goal. You are an adult now. You are seeing the reality of living under a capitalist society and what it rewards. It rewards serving capital. You were supposed to stop thinking after you entered the workforce. As your parents and grandparents did.

Your parents and grandparents experienced this in similar ways. Sometimes the carrot and sometimes the stick. But, we romanticize the past so we focus on previous generations "having it easier". And, again, there is truth to this, clearly. The material conditions of the current and upcoming generations have declined. But, this is only because the ruling class of society has grown more confident in their ability to distract and corral it's laboring class.

For no generation in recent history have we been encouraged to "use our brains" or "think freely". That was all nonsense they told you while you grew up. There was just a lot more carrot previously than there was the stick. The bread and circus was better maintained. So, there was really no reason for most of population to keep thinking. They accepted their single family home and ignored the few that suffered.

AI is not primarily used to keep you from thinking. No, the systems that existed before it worked and are working quite well for that. It may have that side effect and it's welcome for the capitalist class. But AI is meant primarily to empower "the stick" with constant surveillance and control over each and every individual that dares to ask what happened to "the carrots".

AI is more about the ruling class being able to say "yeah, you can see how things are. But, you can't do anything about it."

And they're wrong. Their confidence will be their undoing.

OP, your feelings of alienation are not unique to living in a world of AI. They are just being allowed to be realized without any distractions because of the degree of hubris that AI has given the capitalist/ruling class. It is a good thing in a way. Allow it to give you clarity and class consciousness where your parents lacked. It is through this class struggle we can free ourselves from this alienation you are describing.

Edit: Appreciate the upvotes. Have been use to downvotes anytime I try to explain why AI feels so awful. It's not just AI.

[–] OmegaMouse@pawb.social 7 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

I do agree with what you've said here, and you've said it very eloquently. But for the sake of my understanding I'm going to play devil's advocate.

Does a capitalist society really benefit from discouraging free thought? And is to do so a conscious decision by the ruling class, or is it just the nature of the system in general? Libraries, bookshops and newspapers have existed for a long time, and information flows quite freely on the internet. I hate AI, but I struggle to imagine some shadowy cabal created it with the goal to dumb down the population; that feels more like an insidious side effect. Obviously it was created with profit in mind though, and organisations are only to happy to replace workers with AI if it'll save them some money. The fact that it's available to the public feels like a way to appease the general population and get us used to its existence more than anything. So we gain some small 'benefit' from it whilst it replaces us in the workplace.

[–] impairedimperator@lemmy.zip 3 points 56 minutes ago* (last edited 54 minutes ago)

Society doesn't benefit. The people in charge of society do benefit.

Someone who has nothing likes change, because change is how you get something. Once you're a billionaire....well, you now have a couple billion incentives to keep everything exactly how it is. How it was when you made it to the top.

So it's a fight between society and the elites. Once the balance of power tips in the favor of the elites, society begins to stagnate. In some cases, because at a certain point getting more billions won't make a dent in your power the same way that removing money from the working class and making them more desperate and dependent does.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Carlin can answer this.

https://youtu.be/tetndXjHG1U

The major thing that has changed since he said this is that people are noticing now and people are caring and most importantly people are organizing.

[–] Chezus9247@lemmy.world 43 points 10 hours ago (3 children)

I feel ya. My single straw that I hold on is: They're losing tons of moneys. The AI-bubble probably bursts soon.

I already felt like I don't belong in this world before AI, and now AI hits even worse. Fuck that shit. :c If you want someone to talk, I'm here btw. :/

[–] snerkbleat@lemmy.world 3 points 4 hours ago

Yeah, it's a tough feeling to live with. I feel out of place, too, and despite my best efforts, people just seem to... go away.

Hit me up anytime if you need to talk.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 24 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

If you want someone to talk, I'm here btw. :/

Thanks so much for your kind words. There was some upside to this lol.

I have left my boring IT job that forced me to use AI and ship ridiculously fast. I vastly improved my fitness now and started working in outdoor adventures. It's quite fun too.

They're losing tons of moneys. The AI-bubble probably bursts soon.

Ikr. I'm eagerly waiting for it.

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[–] BigTechMustBurn@lemmy.ml 1 points 16 minutes ago

I have left my boring IT job that forced me to use AI and ship ridiculously fast. I vastly improved my fitness now and started working in outdoor adventures. It's quite fun too.

Wholesome story and message of the day.

[–] Zarobi@aussie.zone 0 points 3 hours ago

I eventually just accepted my out of place-ness. Just doing one day at a time and focusing on my health. Kind of waiting for something to change and keeping myself entertained and being mildly productive in the meantime.

[–] Regna@lemmy.world 25 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

We’re still here. What you’re describing as missing is still here. We have lives, experiences and wants that may differ, but we exist and the people we love and respect are also here. Here is the world.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 6 points 8 hours ago

True. The people around you IRL become an echo chamber and fool you into thinking that it is missing nowadays.

So many send me ai slop in chats, go on endless speeches about how they wrote an email, created a poster in 1 minute with chatgpt etc.

I started working on a side project recently with a dev on the condition that he would code without llms. We were aiming for very generous deadlines. But the quality and style of the code were horrible and inconsistent. It was as if each change was written by an amnesiac or a different intern who didn't read the rest of the code.

I confronted him about it and he admitted to using llms from the start. Turns out he was spending 20-30 min a day generating ai slop and creating PRs. His response was "who cares the code is readable and it works."

[–] Miller@lemmy.world 9 points 8 hours ago* (last edited 8 hours ago) (1 children)

When I was young television was run to inform and educate. Programmes for children and adults ran at natural speeds taking their time to unfold ideas. Then business graduates took over and everything was fast and flashy but said nothing anymore. Then later the internet came and at first it was run by the technical people who had designed it and there were personal websites on any interest you might have and newsgroups where people from all over the world took time to help others in their own area of expertise. Then the business graduates took over and everything was bright and fast, ill informed and run only for profit or to profile the user which is the same thing but worse. The repeated trend here is clear and common, people who are able to create things very often have a notion of acting for the good of society. When these things do well they are overrun by a different sort of person, one who has no feeling for the common good or wellbeing, one who in fact often disdains it and is motivated only by greed and will without conscience ruin anything good for profit. The second sort of person should be identified and nullified and corrected and the first type allowed to flourish and not the reverse as is the case in the world we have allowed to grow up around us.

[–] j4yc33@piefed.social 8 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

with slide rule, stopwatch, machine, and automation the destroyed pride in manual labor.

Now, with AI, they want to destroy pride in mental labor.

The subjugation of the working class remains the goal.

[–] schmorpel@slrpnk.net 2 points 5 hours ago

Yes, when you start reading history and giving attention to traditional crafts you realize that this process of theft, enslavement and alienation has been going on for very long already. Trying to kill your inner factory clock is hard, even when you have the chance!

[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 9 hours ago

I am cut from my company because im a junior dev that still needs to learn :/

[–] subOrange@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Here is my encouragement to go and learn something new! Try something computers can’t do yet, like cooking or playing an instrument. The learning by remembering information era is long gone, but there is the opportunity to learn skills robots cant mimic yet.

[–] silly_goose@lemmy.today 7 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

For sure. I have learned the basics of mountaineering, cooking and fermenting foods. I make sourdough bread, sprouts, and natto at home. And it's so meditative. 😄

[–] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Oh yeah, once you get started in the kitchen, if you enjoy it there's no end. I've been teaching myself how to make greek/Mediterranean food lately and I'm trying to get my hands on a specific ice cream maker that works with equipment I already have.

Seriouseats dot com has probably been the biggest help in teaching my self to cook.

[–] wheezy@lemmy.ml 3 points 8 hours ago

Likely why I have taken up sewing and leatherworking. Just working with your hands is very liberating. Making real material things for others; that I can see the product of my labor - it is significantly more fulfilling than any type of wage labor could provide.