"We did it, Patrick! We made a technological breakthrough!"
A place for all those who loathe AI to discuss things, post articles, and ridicule the AI hype. Proud supporter of working people. And proud booer of SXSW 2024.
AI, in this case, refers to LLMs, GPT technology, and anything listed as "AI" meant to increase market valuations.
I'd like to join the chorus of people saying "Zuckerberg will be bankrupt soon", but I said the same thing about Musk and he became a trillionaire
People will continue to use his dumb products, not in the least cause he does his best to monopolize any market he's in
The system prevents people this rich from going down. He could literally toss a coin on every decision and at the end of the year he will be richer than before. These people basically cannot stop themselves from getting richer.
It costs what they pay, but the value is around zilch. Strange how that works.
There are more than 7.000 AI apps out there, most used are all from big corps (Gargle, M$, Zuckerbot, etc), meanwhile there are pretty good and private indie alternatives which are struggeling to survive. That is the real problem, not the AI as tool as such, but those which biased these for own greedy advantages, to profile and manipulate the user. Adding users which use it without criterio and knowledge to substitute with it own research and brain, instead of an tool which can help with research and work, using it for what it is.
Still less than what Uber spent
Unfortunatly in the heart of empire they pick the winners and losers ..... news flash the losers become winners.
Zuck the Fuck has proved time and again that he is completely bankrupt of ideas or vision.
... and I'll stop there because that list is endless, seemingly.
Things he actually did himself under his own "vision" such as it is?:
Now he's going to tout his new direction of AI, but ... ah ... that's all purchased too:
The dude is creatively and morally bankrupt, and at the rate he's burning cash in this latest corporate turn, he'll be fiscally bankrupt in no time flat as well. Zuck the Fuck is like Melon Husk Lite: All the idiocy, half the cash.
Imagine you have to go on with a company name that is the worst failure in your company's history? Every time you say the company name, you are referencing what a loser you are.
Imagine being Mark Zucke...
Oh. Right. That's what you said! 🤣
the metaverse
But did you see the legs? Impressive.
He also doesn't even deserve credit for the idea for thn Metaverse. He literally stole the premise and the name from Snow Crash by Neal Stephenson
Cant be creative if you have no soul.
I still think "alien in a human suit" is the most likely explanation for his bizarre dysfunction.
And they achieved... what exactly?
More faces per book? Instant Instagram? Whatsapp is now appier? Finally copied Second Life in meta horizons?
Like... What does $221,000,000/month of AI even get you?
I would imagine the answer Meta execs would want, would be “effectively microtargeted advertising to those most likely to buy the product, creating sales for our advertising clients and allowing us to charge them more”
Going through massive sets of user data to figure out which of them would most likely be interested in a product does sound like a plausible use case for AI
You make the mistake of assuming any of that matters.
You're talking devotees of the LessWrong crowd. The self-proclaimed "rationalists". They are quite literally a religious cult that worships AI. (I know this sounds deranged. That's because it is deranged!) The money is beside the point to them. What matters is that they trigger the Singularity so that the Rococo Basilisk (I know that's not the proper name: my artistic license number is MY0B) doesn't torment their simulacra for eternity.
No. I'm not making any of that up. (Except that it's Rocco's Basilisk.)
I don't work for friendface but I do not use AI with good intentions.
The app is falling apart. From marketplace discussions the link back to the listing is mostly broken. The app crashes frequently. Images and video will glitch back and forth by several pixels, randomly.
I think they are doing a massive study on how automating code production kills products. It is a brave move and I look forward to the papers they publish when the company folds.
"Productivity"
Very productive at creating slop that's warming the earth beyond what most people comprehend. The heat has to go somewhere when data centers burn energy and where else will this heat go but into our atmosphere.
And they achieved… what exactly?
I sometimes wonder whether AI is just a way to launder money at the same time as burning the planet.
The big push happened right after the crypto crash. I have a suspicion both are pushed by energy companies. If power consumption goes down, we start switching to renewables and stop consuming dirty sources. They can't have that, so they pushed crypto to consume it. They let it crash because they started pushing "AI" instead. Politicians always say we can't decrease power consumption, and we just need to build up to replace dirty energy sometimes in the non-specified future. We will never reach that if they can instead keep creating excuses to expand demand.
They added legs to horizon world!
Dang, and right after it shut down, what a bummer.
I guess it didn't have "legs" after all.
THEY ADDED $221,000,000 to the GDP every month!! see, the economy is doing great
Got more work done that doesn't matter and also atrophied their workers mind.
I hope Cuckerberg is bankrupt at the end of this AI clusterfuck.
And in prison.
It would be so funny if meta was to go broke over AI usage. One can dream
Alright, taxpayers, bail em out!
and that is not even the actual cost, because the vendors are still not making a profit.
The actual cost is a livable environment
im required to use ai at my job. they don't pay attention to what i do with it. so it now answers my emails 1 business day after i receive them, and responds (appropriately) that im working on their request and ill check back in with them with progress. its a constant loop.
its funny how many tasks in corporate america get forgotten bc they weren't executed immediately :D
Surprisingly difficult to find a source on this that isn't a Twitter Screenshot of some right-wing grifter's account.
This seems to be it, but I don't think there's currently a working paywall bypass for the information (solid site, though).
https://mlq.ai/news/meta-caps-internal-ai-token-spending-after-costs-approach-billions-in-2026/
This might be that article, but not entirely sure. Ironically, that site seems to be another questionable AI project.
We've been seeing posts of people using AI for stupid stuff because their bosses wanted to show their bosses that they were all in on AI.
Now that they've effectively churned the waters for effect, the companies have realized that - Surprise! - there was no result. Now they want AI used for real stuff, which is what they should have been doing in the first place. Companies got way out over their skis way too early on this one.
And the AI companies made billions, and they're still broke, and years away from profitability, if ever. And viability, if ever.
Yeah! Those numbers sound absurd
Is that cost in electricity cost? Or they are not using their own AI models?
Meta is not using their own models internally because their internal models are far behind the state of the art.
This is why Zuck is in a frenzy too, trying desperately to catch up, failing consistently to actually do so
Their models suck, if they didn’t they’d sell them.
Edit to add: they’re selling access to their GPUs, that’s how bad and under used their models are. Again, if their own models were any good, someone would use them.
And the marketplace search is still a broken pile of shit...wish everyone didn't jump to it and stayed on CL...
Observe the dead-eyed stare into the middle distance.
He almost looks human in that photo.
Someone tell madame toussaud her museum got robbed again
Is this whole token thing really just the same as paid in-game currencies, just designed to get you to not think about the fact that you’re spending money? Or is there another use for it?
Tokens are an AI context of units of text. Could be a character or a word. Why use the term tokens instead of words? Who knows. Maybe because some units aren’t words? The tech industry delights in creating stupid terms for things that already had terms.
A token can range from individual letters to several words in a stock phrase, from what little I understand. It's a piece of whatever they're doing behind the scenes leaking into the public-facing terminology.
According to my SO, it's safe enough to just say "a token is a word" as long as you remember this is only an approximation.
Tokens are pretty much the compute used for one word, approximately, or some other information of a similar size. (Long words are two or three tokens each actually)
Then, yes those tokens are paid for with "credits" which is them gamifying the purchase lol