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[–] usernamesaredifficul@hexbear.net 84 points 2 years ago (2 children)

damn it's almost like China have money and scientists and can work out how computer chips are made

[–] RyanGosling@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago

In fact, they have so much money that they can acquire American scientists because they either face discrimination or receive no funding from Americans

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but every good hamburger-eating ameroid knows that innovation only happens when you are owned by venture capitalists leveraging vaporware to inflate speculative bubbles with hype and funnel all cash into IP lawyers to crush any threats to market share.

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[–] Tachanka@hexbear.net 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

the world is not ready for Mcmahon Jinping

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago

It turns out the core needs the periphery a lot more than the periphery needs the core.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 61 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Extra funny detail is that Schneider was tweeting about US rules against American citizens not being allowed to work in the Chinese chip industry.

Whatever will China do without the contributions of the American chip-making Ubermensch (who, for some reason, have no high end chip foundries in America)?

[–] gaycomputeruser@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Not like a large amount of the technology is scientifically developed and the breakthroughs are well documented in research papers or anything.

[–] Tankiedesantski@hexbear.net 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You see, scientific knowledge remains inert until it comes into contact with the C R E A T I V I T Y of the white man.

[–] LeZero@hexbear.net 18 points 2 years ago

The science putty gets shaped into form through the white man's brainpan

[–] PosadistInevitablity@hexbear.net 60 points 2 years ago (2 children)

A child could have seen this coming.

Why are Americans so stupid???

[–] star_wraith@hexbear.net 46 points 2 years ago

Because white Americans think the universe bends towards having them come out on top of every circumstance. They never lose, and bad things don’t actually happen to them.

[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago

Internalized racism and a shallow world outlook does that.

[–] silent_water@hexbear.net 45 points 2 years ago (4 children)

how do I buy their stuff. I want out of the cpu spyware

[–] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i tried to find a "chinese" phone a couple months ago.. you definitely cannot buy one from any remotely legit looking site you can search for. but hey this is the price of freedom, free markets, and freedom, and apple pie, and flags, and freedom and stuff.

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 17 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

I personally prefer OnePlus phones, and every phone I've gotten from them has been directly from their website. I haven't seen a "buy" button yet on Huawei's site

[–] invo_rt@hexbear.net 5 points 2 years ago (2 children)

OnePlus

There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. How are they these days? I was considering one years and years ago until they announced a partnership with... Facebook, iirc?

[–] sovietknuckles@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago (3 children)

I was considering one years and years ago until they announced a partnership with... Facebook, iirc?

I had not heard of that and wasn't able to find an article about it, do you have a link you could share?

There's a name I haven't heard in a long time. How are they these days?

OnePlus was bought by Oppo and doesn't do cool stuff it used to like giving custom ROM devs free devices. They also tried to make themselves the only repairers of OnePlus phones by making the MSM tool (hardware level device restore, meaning the phones are unbrickable) that a OnePlus employee leaked at one point no longer work on newer devices after OnePlus 9 Pro. Except the OnePlus community got the newer Oppo EDL DownloadTool working anyway, so same difference.

AFAIK, OnePlus still sells some of the best hardware you can get for Android phones.

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[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

"But now the Chai knees will spy on you!"

-- most burgerlanders

[–] Saeculum@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why do I care if the Chinese spy on me? They're not my government, and they're not likely to share.

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is a good question. Everytime I've asked this they either sidestep the issue or treat me like I just said the sky is red.

[–] redtea@lemmygrad.ml 6 points 2 years ago

Red sky at night, Shepard's delight.

Red sky in the day, Lenin's up. Yay!

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 9 points 2 years ago (2 children)

The Secure Equipment Act of 2021 effectively prevents Americans from being able to use many (but not all) modern Chinese phones. While you may see them for sale on Amazon etc, you cannot activate them on any carrier.

[–] TrudeauCastroson@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago (1 children)

You can't just buy a sim card and pop it into whatever?

[–] moujikman@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago

No, the IMEI number on the phone are explicitly blacklisted for not being FCC approved.

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[–] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 38 points 2 years ago

Necessity is the mother of invention it seems.

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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago

Okay yes we've had first protectionism but what about second protectionism?

[–] darkmode@hexbear.net 27 points 2 years ago
[–] bennieandthez@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago
[–] frogbellyratbone_@hexbear.net 13 points 2 years ago (3 children)

anyone have a Huawei phone? how do you like it?

i've got an old moto e6 that my mindless consumer self wants to replace but really doesn't need to

[–] 420stalin69@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Im getting a Huawei solely on the basis of reports that Israel couldn’t hack them to spy on Hamas

[–] xXthrowawayXx@hexbear.net 11 points 2 years ago (4 children)

Do not rely on that. The reports are that Israel did not hack them, not that they could not. If you had a top shelf team of hardware and software backwards engineering experts who could make hay out of anything you throw at em would you go with the most popular devices in the world branded google, apple and Samsung or would you try and get the relatively unpopular outside of China huawei devices?

I’m not saying they’re not good phones, just that they’re not impossible to hack and managed to avoid it by being too small a target for anyone to do the work overcoming the differences between them and other android devices.

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[–] IzyaKatzmann@hexbear.net 6 points 2 years ago

I have a newer Xiaomi, wish I got the P60 Pro but it was too expensive...

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[–] mtchristo@lemm.ee 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (8 children)

They still can't sell their phones outside of China. Cause they don't have access to google play services.

Otherwise its still a considerable achievement as those chips can be sold to other Chinese phone manufacturers

What? There are Huawei brand shops and service salons in Poland for example, they sell phones.

[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 28 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

I'm sorry why do you think this?

Xiaomi has 11% of globalk market share up from 4% in 2018? Apple has 33% global share for reference.

Oppo, Vivo and Huawei share another 14% between them. Bringing China's market share in the global phone market up to 25%.

People don't give a shit about whether it has Google Play or not. It has an appstore with content on it, they're fine with it as long as they have access to other apps that do what they want.

[–] sysgen@hexbear.net 10 points 2 years ago

Xiaomi, Oppo, and Vivo phones have Google Play outside of China.

[–] oregoncom@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

no google spyware.

That's a positive not a downside.

[–] CyborgMarx@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago

lmao there are literally Huawei phones for sale in my country, what are you talking about?

[–] Frogmanfromlake@hexbear.net 14 points 2 years ago

They're pretty popular over here, second biggest brand behind Samsung

[–] Gosplan14_the_Third@hexbear.net 8 points 2 years ago

They are still sold in Germany, however the OS is a clone of Android without any Google services. From my observing at the... electronics store phone display, you can download these apps pretty easily from the inbuilt app store.

[–] CloutAtlas@hexbear.net 7 points 2 years ago

As far as I know they're quite popular in Palestine.

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