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[-] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 73 points 9 months ago
[-] KiraChats@hexbear.net 37 points 9 months ago
[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

Bernie is trashing whatever respect the left had for him with this conflict.

He posted this a few hours ago, pretending to have evolved toward a more aggressive stance against Israel … but it’s obviously worded in a way as to scapegoat Netanyahu specifically, while washing the hands of US empire and the Biden administration.

[-] KiraChats@hexbear.net 50 points 9 months ago

From Bernie's video:

what the president is trying to do is trying to make clear to Netanyahu and his right-wing extreme government is "yes you can go to war against Hamas but you cannot go to war against the Palestinian people"

the United States has got to put all of the pressure that it can to tell Netanyahu to stop this disastrous military approach

Yeah this is more lib shit. Like you said, he's trying to distance Biden, America, and imo even Israel from genocide, making it a Netanyahu problem. "Orange man bad" but Netanyahu version.

He doesn't want a ceasefire. Seems like he really does think that Palestinians fighting against their own ethnic cleansing deserve to die. What a clown.

[-] The_Grinch@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I don't want to throw around baseless conspiracy theory when there is a model we know and understand as leftists which generally explains why we see things like this, but I wonder what other tools are used that we aren't aware of to make politicians fall in line.

[-] quarrk@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

I think it is neither mysterious nor conspiratorial. Bernie is a senator and he interacts with other senators and meets with White House officials all the time. The senators each have a degree of influence but they all orbit the administration currently in office. Senators know what the administration wants of them at any given time and will plan their own actions on that basis. A senator that doesn’t fall in line will eventually lose office. They are not that individually powerful in the face of the other 99 senators plus the White House. You can have coalitions but even those are rife with corruption like insider trading and “lobbying”/bribing, so you have to calculate what people say versus what their material-political interests are.

All of that is to say that any individual politician recognizes the fragility of their own power and acts accordingly. Even granting elections as a 100% legitimate democratic process, being elected does not give someone any mandate. Your work as a senator is done primarily through committees not votes, and that is determined by the institutions already in place.

[-] HexReplyBot@hexbear.net 3 points 9 months ago

I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy:

[-] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 49 points 9 months ago

It feels a bit strange to look at the person I spent years supporting and hoping for, and seeing just the face of another murderous ghoul in the natsec mob. What growth feels like, I guess. It's not that I'm sad; I feel nothing about it, and I'm kind of sad I feel nothing, but relieved, because it's easier that way. I'm looking at just another enemy of humanity.

[-] JohnBrownNote@hexbear.net 32 points 9 months ago

parenti was right all along, as usual

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 11 points 9 months ago

I kept the fuckin bernie sticker on my work laptop until very recently, i could make plenty of excuses but not this.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Kill your heroes. At the end of the day, the only hero that can save you is you.

(also get a gun)

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 33 points 9 months ago

Where's the dumbass that always shows up to scream about how we shouldn't attack the most left leaning politician in amerikkka?

[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago

We shouldn't attack our most left boy in the US

thicc-trump

[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 8 points 9 months ago

Deleted their account

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 6 points 9 months ago
[-] PoY@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 9 months ago

if he hadn't already destroyed all his political capital this would have been the kiss of death

[-] happybadger@hexbear.net 25 points 9 months ago

jokerfication objectively the moderate wing of fascism.

[-] arabiclearner@hexbear.net 24 points 9 months ago

I can't believe I believed in him just a few years ago...

[-] PM_ME_YOUR_FOUCAULTS@hexbear.net 22 points 9 months ago

He's still hiding his power level you guys

[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

I literally saw a twitter take like "he might want to run again in 2028 and the DNC will rig it if he supports a ceasefire"

[-] Aryuproudomenowdaddy@hexbear.net 18 points 9 months ago

This is how Bernie can still win.

[-] Gay_Tomato@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Apparently he was hiding his power level, just in the worst way imagineable. doomjak

[-] kristina@hexbear.net 17 points 9 months ago

Dudes having his life force sucked out, maybe he knows deep down he's doing some evil shit

[-] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 14 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

9/11 flattened-bernie

I have to wonder if the 9:11am was deliberate.

[-] Thordros@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Literally no big organization on the planet sends out tweets on-the-fly. They have a small team that scripts, vets, then schedules them. Of course it was intentional.

[-] FuckyWucky@hexbear.net 12 points 9 months ago
[-] mar_k@hexbear.net 5 points 9 months ago

Even Fumio Kishida turned around

[-] Bloobish@hexbear.net 9 points 9 months ago
[-] jimothy@lemmy.dbzer0.com 5 points 9 months ago

The circlejerk in whatever platform a few years ago turns out doesn't work out

[-] Juice@hexbear.net 4 points 9 months ago

AIPAC doing a good job of further alienating Sanders from the left. I mean any good he's done for the left is years passed, but y'all are falling for AIPAC's pwn

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