I think about the South Park scene where they ask Mrs. Broslowski about her views on Gaza to win a prediction market bet, but then end up offending her. One of the best B-plots in the show honestly.

So I have not bothered to ask because in general I only associate with people who have basic empathy anyways so I'd be reaching pretty far outside my circles to learn anything new.

[–] kreskin@lemmy.world 2 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I’m not suggesting 50% of jews support Zionism. I would be surprised and horrified if that were the case.

Bad news for you then. https://www.ajc.org/news/anti-zionist-jews

Support for zionism in Israel is almost universal. Half of the worlds Jewish people live in Israel now. Of the 15.8 million Jewish people in the world, about 14 million of those live in Israel or the US.

According to the AJC (American jewish committee) Eight out of 10 American Jews say caring about Israel is an essential or important part of what being Jewish means to them. More than 80% of American Jews support Israel’s military operation to recover Israeli hostages and remove Hamas from power.

so averaging that out with the near 100% in Israel, you're looking at over 80-90% of the US/Israeli Jewish people supporting Zionism. Its not great.

[–] GreenBeard@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago

Based on my limited experience, because I have kind of discussed it with my Jewish friends, the people most strongly for this kind of violence tend to self-select into actually moving to Israel, hence the people in Israel, tend to support the genocide. Outside, you tend to have a mix of elites who back Israel, and more middle/working class Jews who are horrified, but don't have the social capital or NGOs to make their voices heard. It's a bit of a broad brush generalization, but as a general trend.

It always comes back to socio-economic class.

[–] binux@sh.itjust.works 1 points 5 days ago

To be clear I’m not suggesting 50% of jews support Zionism

I think it’s somewhere around 47% of the worldwide Jewish population lives in Israel. I know that doesn’t necessarily equate to being a Zionist, but it’s a pretty big indicator.

There probably isn’t any way of knowing the total amount of Zionist Jews worldwide but I’d be willing to bet it’s pretty damn close to 50% if not there already. And I say that with no pleasure.