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[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago (3 children)

I am not even remotely a fan of much of the things Carney is doing, but to paint him as a Trump sycophant is just bullshit.

Most people who voted Liberal in the last election went into it full well knowing Canada was electing a red conservative, but the alternative was way fucking worse.

We could have ended up with an actual Trump sycophant.

[–] Sleeping_Elephant@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

No they didn’t. Carney stole a bunch of Kate Raworth talking points and people bought it. “We have become a market society” was what pulled NDP voters and the left flank of the LPC in.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 5 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago) (1 children)

As a member of the NDP, who voted specifically AGAINST PP as my MP, I knew exactly what I was doing, and so did all of my friends and neighbours.

Anyone who didn't see a red conservative wasn't paying attention.

  • Appointed to Governor of BoE under a Conservative.
  • Appointed to Governor of BoC under a Conservative.
  • He wrote a book about markets and stakeholder capitalism.
  • His book said the job of the state is to clear hurdles.
  • He wrote that true prosperity is driven by wealth generation and global trade
  • He worked at Goldman Sachs.
  • He had an article written about him in 2021 that called him a "Bay Street Liberal".
  • At the 2024 Convention, long before Trudeau resigned, he spoke against the financial policies of the Liberals and talked about wealth creation.
  • He worked at Brookfield.

And so on, and so on.

Still a thousand times better than the alternative.

[–] Sleeping_Elephant@lemmy.ca 1 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

So in order to defeat Conservatives you voted for a Conservative? You forgot to mention that his dissertation is heavily based on Game Theory. Weird that the guy with a Doctorate in Game Theory framed an election as a zero sum game.

Let’s not forget in 2018 when the Conservative's told Paul Wells they were going to do everything possible to get rid of the carbon tax. Then ran over Trudeau for years and years until it finally worked. Even Brown was a victim to this when CTV published slander to get him out of the OPC leadership race. Then the CPC just DQ’d him from Leadership.

But hey, you really stuck it to the guy you didn’t like by voting for his platform in a different suit.

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 3 points 12 hours ago

I'm sorry that saying the alternative was worse is too difficult to understand.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Woah, easy there, chief. I didn't mean to light you up this morning. I was simply basing the comment off of his climate "activism" that's destroying your chances of actually protecting your country from it. I'm not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I'm sorry if that's how it came off.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

...I'm not sure how you got sycophantic behavior being insinuated but I'm sorry if that's how it came off.

By you suggesting that he and Trump are like minds or would be comfortable bedfellows...

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Simply that he would make a great head for the US EPA. He definitely is of like mind in that regard.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Clearly your communication needs work based on how you're getting ratioed...

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Clearly you don't know how little I care about "ratios".

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 23 hours ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

No one cares about the numbers... but they reflect how well you are getting your point across and whether people find your ideas compelling. If you don't care about effectively communicating ideas then you are nothing but a psych patient barking from atop a soap box...

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

While Carney helps burn our world, the social justice warriors in the community get to cast a vote they think matters. If you think about it, I'm doing you all a favor.

No need to thank me. I don't do OT for the accolades.

[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca 1 points 22 hours ago

Yeah... Everyone on social media thinks they are some kind of philosopher... we're all just assholes with smartphones.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] TimothyOilypants@lemmy.ca -2 points 1 day ago

It's your who needs works

Case in point. 😂

[–] ragepaw@lemmy.ca 0 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

I'm sure he'd find a cushy job in the Trump administration.

[–] schwim@piefed.zip 1 points 21 hours ago

I'm sure he'd find a cushy job in the Trump administration.

[–] redsand@infosec.pub -2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

He wasn't at first but now days I'm confident he just wants more money and someone like Bessent offers enough he'd literally suck Peter Thiel's dick

[–] Sleeping_Elephant@lemmy.ca 2 points 20 hours ago

There’s a quote in his book that I think explains it really well and turned me off of him instantly. “Crisis is not the time for reform” in context to the GFC. So while he was stumping at stating we are in a crisis, I knew he was going to be the worst version of himself.