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[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

What's a really disturbing red flag for me is he keeps touting carbon capture as a solution to offset the new damage. Feels like marketing strategy to allay the fears of people who don't have the time to look into its effectiveness. I thought CCS was just something he used during the campaign and won't be actually leaning into.

[–] TankovayaDiviziya@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago

Surprise, surprise. Carney is still a neoliberal.

[–] DaddleDew@lemmy.world 19 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

Getting the federal government to stop doing things like that begins with getting Big Oil's political influence and propaganda out of Alberta.

This is the result of them promoting an astroturf separatist movement which they weaponized to force the federal government to let them pollute the planet unhindered, under threat of destroying the country.

[–] systemglitch@lemmy.world 6 points 19 hours ago (4 children)

Man this sub really hates the guy. Other places I see people praising him, and the other half hating him. No one in the middle even. Last I saw his polling numbers were at their highest peak, not sure where they are at now.

What makes this place so hostile?

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 5 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Some people hate Carney becauae PP's not PM. We hate Carney because of (some of) the shit he does. We're not the same.jpg

Also plenty of us voted for him and some contributed to his campaign. Even tho we did not expect much more than blocking PP, we still salty when he shits on unions or lays off wildfire experts.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 20 points 19 hours ago (1 children)

People here lean left more than most other places. Carney is, without a doubt, more right leaning than Trudeau, who many already struggled with his neolib policies. Shifting FURTHER into those policies isn't going to make this place like him

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

Yes. This. Lemmy seems to attract a lot of people who think we are on the brink of an imminent socialist revolution. While I admire many things about socialism, living in SW Ontario way outside Toronto I would just settle for not seeing anti-abortion billboards and F*CK CARNEY stickers everywhere and continuing to resist the right-wing nonsense taking over many other Western countries. (No, not just the US....Le Pen, Meloni, the list goes on...)

In all reality, we will never be able to get a party in majority that supports eradicating corporate entities, banning ICE vehicles immediately, establishing UBI, etc etc - these things will not happen in extremes that will slowly happen here and there and some won't at all. The goal right now is "least shitty" not "The Great Socialist Revolution" but this is a community with many idealists and that's cool but just remember that when you read some of these posts.

[–] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 2 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

It may be easier to get socialist (in practice, not labels) politicians elected where the Fuck Carney signs are than a politician that doesn't Fuck Carney themselves. Not a socialist that peddles the whole program a downtown Toronto leftist wants, but an appropriate subset that helps their community in real ways by actually working against corporate interests. After all that's happened before. The real issues affect most of us and I think that's gonna get more obvious to more people in the years to come.

[–] healthetank@lemmy.ca 11 points 18 hours ago (2 children)

To anyone reading this, I'd remind you that local politics are THE MOST important. You can far more easily get local politicians in who are extremely progressive, and begin movement from there. The lack of parties means its much simpler to run, and most people don't even bother voting. Plus those changes can have drastic impacts on what you see and do on a daily basis.

[–] kahnclusions@lemmy.ca 7 points 17 hours ago

Especially so in Canada. The politics that affects like 95% of your daily life is local and provincial. It infuriates me when I hear people blame all their problems on the PM that are actually the responsibility of your local or provincial government. Blaming Trudeau (or now Carney) for Doug Ford’s faults.

Housing, healthcare, education, public transport, urban planning, welfare, labour standards? It’s all exclusive jurisdiction of the provinces.

[–] GrackleBirb@lemmy.ca 7 points 18 hours ago

This is absolutely true - while my riding is a complete waste and shithole that will always vote Conservative, we have had many progressive people on our town council and in mayoral positions.

[–] ILikeBoobies@lemmy.ca -1 points 15 hours ago

Pay more attention.

[–] skeezix@lemmy.world -3 points 17 hours ago

HE’S AN ASSHOLE

[–] dasrael@lemmy.zip 6 points 22 hours ago (4 children)

Carney is a fiscal conservative, so let's get that straight. His concerns are Canadian independence, sovereignty and growth. He's thinking about keeping the country economically viable and strong through this period of turmoil and "new world order" shift as the US is keen to dump its global hegemony.

Now...... with that said, I'm sure he does care about the climate, but it totally takes a back seat to these other issues which he sees as being essentially existential.

I think it's an order of priorities and people who service the constant crisis/boom cycle of capitalism will never get correct. Humans are party animals and no amount of good sense is going to change that. It's going to take burning this bitch to the ground and immense loss of life to change tack, and only then it will be because it becomes the predominant existential problem.

As long as most people can still shit somewhat comfortably, nothing will be done to upset that directly, ever. This is why so many bad things can happen and the average person wont lift a finger, because they still have a nice seat waiting for them at home to shit on.

If Carney cared about the Canadian null

  1. He'd seize and rebuild the refineries that Brian Mulroney(also a fiscal con) allowed to be moved to Washington State. As it is, US oil companies get to sell our raw product offshore and worse, then sell it back to us. BC communities assume a risk of annihilation for zero benefit.
  2. He'd put oil pipelines to Ontario/New Bruinswick/Nova Scotia with the intent of shipping oil to Europe. You know, a market that actually wants and needs more.
  3. He'd tell the US lumber lobby to pound sand and help rural BC instead of them being ignored by all except the reform party crazies.
[–] Jhex@lemmy.world 12 points 22 hours ago

Carney is a fiscal conservative, so let’s get that straight. His concerns are Canadian independence, sovereignty and growth

for the 1% wealthy Canadians...

[–] Rat_in_a_hat@lemmy.ca 2 points 19 hours ago

If he cared about sovereignty, he wouldn't entertain Alberta separatism and should try to call it out for what it is.

Mark's concerns are the bottom line. Always have been. Guy's net worth is 10mil - i don't think he even knows what the average Canadian (i.e. 1/4 go hungry) even feel.

[–] mrdown@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 21 hours ago

His only concern is serving the coorporates

[–] TerdFerguson@lemmy.ca 0 points 15 hours ago

career politician.

ranks somewhere between worm and snake. I guess snake, here, with the snake oil solution.

delete all of them. left and right.