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submitted 4 months ago by wombat@hexbear.net to c/movies@hexbear.net

Been awhile since we've done this thread, and it's always fun. Here are some of my picks:

  • The Pursuit of Happyness (2006) is really bad. Will Smith's inspirational moment is going to the New York Stock Exchange and seeing all the happy rich guys in suits walking around, and wanting to be like them. Having to do stuff like brown-nose executives, sleep in train station bathrooms and pull his son out of daycare due to lack of money are presented not as flaws of the system but evidence of Smith's smart bootstraps-oriented thinking. This movie is the Mein Kampf of liberalism.

  • Air (2023) is really bad too. Literally a feature-length Nike commercial coupled with a fuckton of Michael Jordan worship, the message being that a bunch of rich guys deserved to get even richer because they signed a sneaker deal. The closing 5 minutes of the movie are a "where are they now" montage showing how much money all the Nike executives made, yay!

  • Anastasia (1997), which portrays the Russian Revolution as the result of a wizard's curse and communism as bad because it got in the way of the Romanovs living in big palaces and wearing fancy dresses.

  • The Post (2017), about a wealthy, heroic girlboss newspaper executive who makes the heroic decision to...uhh...not block the publication of a story that would expose the lies of a corrupt president threatening our democracy (take THAT drumpf)

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[-] someone@hexbear.net 80 points 4 months ago

Ghostbusters. A group of academic frauds are finally jettisoned by their university when they can no longer hide their fraud. When they go into private business they're angered that they actually have to follow safety and pollution rules. The older I get the more I hate that movie.

[-] LeopardShepherd@hexbear.net 45 points 4 months ago

Also idk if it's just me but I watched it recently with my wife who hadn't seen it before and she found it very sexist and creepy which of course I completely missed as a kid. Especially Bill Murrays character.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

that's how a lot of these raunchy 80s comedies were with Chevy Chase, Bill Murray and the like. I remember liking Spies Like Us as a kid, and upon re-watching it's basically 2 hours of Chevy Chase sexually harassing every woman he comes in contact with and getting rewarded for it.

The overall plot is pretty good though, American CIA psychos launching a nuke on themselves to test Star Wars and start a war with the Soviets is a pretty redpilled plotline. Very weird ending though where the Soviets and the American spies divert the missile after Star Wars fails and the CIA/military guys get arrested for their treasonous plot and the Soviets and Americans become friends and play games together. Very optimistic but not very realistic I’m afraid, nobody would arrest the perpetrators and nobody would be friendly to the Soviets

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[-] Yllych@hexbear.net 69 points 4 months ago

Forrest Gump pisses me off

[-] pudcollar@lemmy.ml 68 points 4 months ago

Iron Man, with the DoD contractor CEO hero and the product placement.

[-] dead@hexbear.net 43 points 4 months ago

The Iron Man 1&2 movies were funded by the USDoD after all. Most Hollywood movies that have military equipment or military bases in them are funded by the USDoD. The USDoD gives studios access to military equipment and military bases in exchange for allowing the USDoD to have creative control over the film.

In this short video the role of the DOD in making Iron Man more visually spectacular is referred to by the Air Force Entertainment Liaison Project Officer Capt. Bryon McGarry, who talks of their aircraft as ‘production value’. One of the producers Jeremy Latcham spoke of how impressed he was by the sheer amount of military hardware in some shots, estimating it was worth ‘a billion and a half dollars’. These comments suggest that the DOD knows that it has the ability to add extra production value to movies that no one else can provide, and thus it places them in a position not just to influence scripts, but to influence which movies become the biggest blockbuster hits. Thus they have some control not just over individual films but over the shape of the entire Hollywood industry.

https://www.spyculture.com/pentagon-production-assistance-agreements-iron-man-12/

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[-] aaaaaaadjsf@hexbear.net 66 points 4 months ago

Forest Gump for sure. I say it every time this topic comes up.

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 38 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

It's weird how everyone seems to like this movie even though it is so bad

[-] TheLastHero@hexbear.net 57 points 4 months ago

I like Matt Christman's theory: Forrest was lying folks, he was literally just making shit up on that dumb bench to fuck with people. (this theory will also get people very angry for some reason)

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[-] sandinista209@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

90s nostalgia is a powerful thing. The movie should be dunked on based on them creating an awful seafood chain alone.

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[-] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago

The only bad guy was the anti-war protestor.

[-] Rod_Blagojevic@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

Someone should make a movie about the Ukrainian nazi that was celebrated in the Canadian parliament, but he should be presented as a Forest Gump character that just happens to be at all of the worst events of the holocaust and has absolutely no understanding of what's happening.

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[-] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 64 points 4 months ago

The National Treasure movies spend all their runtime mythologizing slave-owning libertarians who stole treasure from various groups of non-white people.

Take me to the gulag for loving those stupid movies. I accept my fate.

[-] RedWizard@lemmygrad.ml 63 points 4 months ago

AirBud. "There's nothing in the rules that says a dog can't play basketball" has to be the total summation of liberal ideology.

I always get irked by the liberal compromise fetishism of Lincoln (2012). It is such a product of the respectability politics of the Obama era.

[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 41 points 4 months ago

I know that movie was a few years before Hamilton, but they definitely were part of the same ”look how great our nation's diverse history is” Obama-era liberalism where the end goal was a ”we may disagree on some things, but we can agree on how great our nation is” statement jagoff

[-] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 29 points 4 months ago

If I could erase someone from ever having existed, it wouldn’t be Hitler or Columbus, it would be Lin-Manuel Miranda.

[-] NephewAlphaBravo@hexbear.net 37 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Erasing Columbus would probably erase the other two as freebies

[-] FishLake@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 4 months ago

Not good enough. Lin needs to be personally erased.

[-] wombat@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

everyone in that movie talks as if they are reciting from a middle-school history textbook.

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[-] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 52 points 4 months ago

Anastasia is such a a piece of shit propaganda movie but Once Upon a December is a good song.

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[-] Alaskaball@hexbear.net 48 points 4 months ago

i'm surprised nobody wanted to score cheap points by beating the dead horse and say harry potter.

I'm gonna say zombieland

[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago

shaun of the dead is so much better than zombieland, it's much funnier and also much scarier. they took zombies seriously at least, they are basically a punchline in zombieland

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[-] JohnBrownsBussy2@hexbear.net 47 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Mr. Smith Goes to Washington (1939) as an example of ur-liberalism. A literal boy scout troop leader becomes a Senator basically through random chance and then overcomes corruption in Washington by sheer individual grit and goodness.

The Iron Man movies, especially Iron Man 2.

The new Obama-produced movie (Leave the World Behind).

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[-] Cherufe@hexbear.net 46 points 4 months ago

That one you really liked when you where younger

[-] Shinji_Ikari@hexbear.net 42 points 4 months ago

Jokes on you, I watched small soldiers until the tape wore out and that movie's whole message is centered around how the military industrial complex brings fascism home to roost

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[-] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 44 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

I'll take this moment to complain about how Tangled (a Disney Rapunzel film, basically) just assumes that pillaging native lands is the moral thing to do.

An old woman is using a magical flower out in the wilderness to retain her youth and health. It's quite literally the only thing keeping her alive. When the Queen of the kingdom falls ill, soldiers of the kingdom go out and just rip up the flower. The old woman, deprived of her only means to stay alive, rushes to the castle, only to find that the flower's properties are now stuck inside the Queen's baby. Reasonably assuming that the selfish-ass King and Queen who just gave her a death sentence were obviously never going to let her use those powers, she takes the baby and raises it in a loving (if very sheltered) environment, using her hair to live instead, again, this is the only way the woman can stay alive.

Somehow, the woman is the bad guy, and the King and Queen who raided the native lands for their own selfish-ass purposes are the good guys. It was perfectly moral to take the flower because old woman didn't enclose her land or have a fucking deed to say "THIS FLOWER BELONGS TO ME". The old woman's native knowledge of the land meant it could keep her (and who knows how many others) alive and healthy on an indefinite basis, while the monarchy just grab it, destroy it, and get a one-time use out of it because the lives of the royal family are more important than everyone else's!!!! Babysnatching isn't moral, but what choice did the woman have?

Yeah I may be overthinking a kid's fairy tale in movie form. But FUCK EM. I genuinely think it teaches children that there's no need to respect the environment or other cultures' understanding of ownership, nor the concept of public sharing.

[-] Xx_Aru_xX@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Gothel also looks Jewish/Moroccan, adding to her being a witch is something.

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Les Miserables (2012) was pretty damn bad and pissed me off for being lib before I even knew why, but upon reflection its because it fetishizes defeat and idealism and made the revolutionaries really unsympathetic and naive. It's actually a really good encapsulation of Western Radlib ideology and underdog fetishization

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[-] zed_proclaimer@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

Transformers by Michael Bay was just a giant US military advertisement

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[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 39 points 4 months ago

The writer of Anastasia works on Handmaid’s Tale if that tells you anything…

[-] WeedReference420@hexbear.net 40 points 4 months ago

I watched the first series of that, eventually noped out because it got weirdly torture pornish, then caught a more recent episode a year or two ago and the protagonist is working alongside the US Military (that have materialised completely out of nowhere I guess) as they fight the theocratic regime, one of the most lib things I've seen on TV.

[-] motherofmonsters@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

Absolutely lib brained show. Women must suffer and then eventually (after 5 seasons) the government will rescue them of course!

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[-] davel@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

Right? My question is which films aren’t, so I can watch all six of them.

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[-] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 35 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago)

The American President. I didn't even realize until recently that this was written by Aaron Sorkin, but it makes sense, it's an early example of exactly his brand of hokey bullshit.

Whatever that movie was about Scooter Libby and the revealing of the CIA agent's name that was all ”How dare Bush and Cheney treat one of our CIA heroes like that!”, they mentioned it on the first season of Blowback.

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[-] GlueBear@hexbear.net 34 points 4 months ago

Crash hasn't been mentioned yet

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[-] Self_Sealing_Stem_Bolt@hexbear.net 33 points 4 months ago

Contagion.

...and then everyone got a vaccine and lived happily ever after.

It really shows the limits of Liberal thinking.

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[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

Anything Sorkin. He just makesbshit upntonfit liberal ideology. The I Love Lucy movie too. They tried toake it out like maybe she wasn't a communist and J. Esgar Hoover personally called to showbto give his thumbs up, when that never happened and Lucy was card-carrying.

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[-] notthenameiwant@hexbear.net 30 points 4 months ago

All the President's Men is a celebration of liberal institutions. Especially now that we know "Deep Throat" was literally just the assistant director of the FBI who got snubbed for a job. Three Days of the Condor is a much better Redford conspiracy movie.

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[-] Wheaties@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago

Man of the Year

Basically, Robin Williams plays charismatic host of the unDaily Shown't -- a presidential candidate agrees to go on his show and he wipes the floor with them. After that, people start pressuring him to run. He's a late entry candidate and is only on the ballot in like 15 states - just enough to get enough points for the Electoral Collage -- everyone expects him to be a spoiler candidate. An expression of disappointment with the establishment. But! On that second Wednesday in November, turns out he won enough states and took the EC victory. The movie looks like it's going to be President Robin Williams antics as he thumbs his nose at congress, business, and the power players of american empire...

...but it turns out he only won because the new computerized polling booths did a computer oopsy and awarded victory to candidates by the alphabetical order of their names rather than by vote totals. The rest of the film is now a shadowy business thriller following the intrepid investigator trying to figure out what happened, dodging attempts on their life from the company that made the booths. It ends with Robin Williams resigning after he learns of the error, with Time magazine giving him the titular title Man of the Year

Apparently it's written by the same guy who wrote Wag the Dog which was a good movie I actually liked.

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[-] Juice@hexbear.net 28 points 4 months ago
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[-] sir_this_is_a_wendys@hexbear.net 27 points 4 months ago

I always thought the movie Knocked Up had a very bad message. It should have been more along the lines of 'you can co-parent with someone you can't be in a healthy relationship with'. Judd Apatow's work has not aged well.

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[-] Tychoxii@hexbear.net 26 points 4 months ago

Theres this anglo movie some years back where michael caine becomes a vigilante. Literally scratch a lib shit about how scary the poors are and how good it is to murder them.

"Harry brown"

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[-] Dessa@hexbear.net 24 points 4 months ago

Glory.

Fantastic movie, and I love it, but it's a feel good patriotic movie about a white savior general who marches his black soldiers into certain death. Denzel Washington was made out to be a huge dick because he was the only guy to be mad about slavery and resent white people for it.

Similarly, Driving Miss Daisy. Hoke learns the value of being patient with a bitch-ass chud who eventually comes around because he's so damn nice. Magical Negro movies are inherently lib.

The Help is like this too, except the white woman is also kinda magical because she inspires the help to sneak human shit into a pie and brag about it to a KKK member. They play it off like thr help would get away with it because the KKK lady couldn't suffer the emvarasament, but IRL any black woman in Jim Crow south who did this would be towed behind a car and her entire village burned to the ground.

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