This is such an easy layup for any reporter. Haley had her own son via IVF. Part of the IVF process is to ~~reject embryos~~ kill babies and only implant the most viable one(s). Someone should ask her how many of her ~~embryos she rejected~~ babies she killed in order to have her son. Bonus for the follow up question: Why was this baby killing ok for you, but not for others?
When are they gonna press child abuse charges against her for starving and cryogenically freezing her babies?
Oh wow. I can't believe she was stupid enough to say this at all.
Totally unfit for any office.
Really? At this point, how can you not believe the depths of stupidity that republicans will sink to?
Can’t say I’m surprised, but damn…this level of hypocrisy is truly stunning.
It’s not even notable any more, sadly.
With this stance, they are coming for birth control.
There is no such thing as an “unborn baby”. It’s not a baby until it’s born. Before that, it’s fetus, before that an embryo, and before that a zygote. This is why uneducated idiots should not be making decisions which involve science and medicine.
Edit: fixed
I agree with the spirit of your post but I think you’ve switched the order of zygote/embryo.
lol, fixed. I had just woken up
She can't even get the definition of embryo right and we should trust her with nukes??
Have you seen the Republican frontrunner? I wouldn't trust him with rubber ball
A rubber ball? My dude, I wouldn't even trust Trump with the balls he's had his entire life.
Seriously, dude already caused the country a ton of damage with them, considering what his children have done.
No I totally would. A nice colorful rubber ball would be really distracting for him.
In Handmaid’s Tale–esque fashion, Haley has tried to toe the line on the issue of third-party fertility in a futile effort to keep voters from turning away from her floundering campaign, even though she conceived her son via artificial insemination.
Jesus fucking Christ, these people. For fuck’s sake!
Don’t take away the rights of these physicians and these parents to have these conversations.”
So.... she's pro choice?
No, no. You see, she's saying you should feel free to talk about it, so long as your conclusion matches her opinion.
IVF for some, miniature American flags for others
Maybe she should get clear on the definitions, and make a statement on what she actually believes.
Because this correction she just made, is based on a very fundamental misunderstanding of what an embryo is.
Because the anti-choice crowd will not accept any answer other than “life begins at conception.”
Which is weird since their own book explicitly says life begins at first breath, provides instructions for a cheating detecting potion that'll induce abortion if the woman cheated, etc
If they actually read their book there wouldn’t be any Christians left
Maybe she should get clear on the definitions
She knows. She's apparently had IVF herself.
What a piece of shit, scumbag hypocrite she is.
Oh no! Businesses are shockingly deciding it's not worth possible manslaughter charges for possible technical malfunctions. How fucking surprising.
These fucking idiots never think about how this stuff could affect them until it does. As long as it only hurts the right people, they cheer it on.
Oh Christ here we go again with the StAtEs RiGhTs lie...
It's one thing if arguments were made in good faith, but these assholes just hide behind the states rights issue until they're in the position to make it federal...
Those same states will stomp all over city government rights when it comes to district maps, voting locations, schools, and local mandates/statutes. DeSantis even has his fist up Disneyland's ass. America would be a collection of shitholes if not for federal government. Wouldn't be surprised if we'd still have slavery.
We do
I posted about this a few days after Roe was overturned. I’m a bit surprised it took this long for IVF to be attacked. Next will be stem cell research, then contraception.
If you were an adult in the 1980s-90s, you’ll remember this.
Haley might be young, but she’s an idiot if she didn’t see this coming. It was her own party that made these same moves 40 years ago, and they haven’t been subtle about repeating history.
I guess all republicans are morons, but come on. This is not a surprise.
What I found hilarious (except not) was that she said it should be a conversation between a woman and her doctor, although the embryo is a baby and killing it is murder so... Not much to discuss there is there?
Discussion is pretty much conspiracy to commit murder under that law, right?
I think the Alabama law is quite clear. Every month a woman's egg drops and she doesn't go get impregnated, she's a murderer. All women need to be pregnant from puberty to menopause, and if they aren't, they're killing babies.
Yep.
Bunch of damned retards.
Wait, I don't want to confuse what the ruling actually means. Embryos are fertilized, so an egg going without fertilization and being passed through menstruation doesn't meet that definition. If it is fertilized and is still passed through menstruation (as what, a good quarter of pregnancies do?) then sure.
I'll be there first to point out hypocrisy and the authoritarian big government this would require to prove (and likely would affect minorities disproportionately), but I don't think it helps to distort what this law means. It very well could be a slippery slope towards it, and yes is still enormously stupid, but it doesn't meet the threshold of what you're arguing. Unless I've misunderstood the wording of the law?
Conservatives are losers with no platform since religion is dead as fuck as a platform.
Nikki Haley is a fundamentalist extremist that is advocating for a full ban on abortions after six weeks (which makes abortions essentially entirely illegal). Just because she isn't Trump doesn't mean she isn't fucking crazy.
So she doesn't want IVF to stop but does still think embryos are babies. To me this reads like someone who thinks literally all embryos retrieved during the IVF process must be used. For those who aren't aware, IVF can potentially end up with 8 or so viable embryos.
She has to know it’s BS because she’s had IVF herself.
That's RIGHT! Just like Abortion this should be a "STATES RIGHTS" issue wink wink nudge nudge!
The comments from The Daily Show on her and her being a so-called "moderate" are even more poignant now.
You can't believe anything that comes out of any conservative politician's mouth.
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