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Futurama has accidentally become a fascinating document of social change (www.independent.co.uk)

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I've just found this article about Futurama on The Independent, a UK newspaper. It comments on the changes in Futurama reflecting the changes in society in general.

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[-] jet@hackertalks.com 102 points 1 year ago

The satirical show has to change with the times. It's true. Some of the jokes do get dated. It's hard to write ageless satire. Satire only exists inside of a context. Which is time-bound.

I'm hopeful they're going to find a nice stride this season. The first episode seemed like a rehash of previous ideas. I'm looking forward to some deep satire and thinking coming forward

[-] TurnItOff_OnAgain@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

I'm hoping it gets better. The last time they got canceled and came back they made a few jokes about it then moved on. This time it seemed to be a whole episode focused on the joke.

Are they still the most educated writing staff on TV? IIRC the original writing staff had a bunch of PhD peeps.

[-] Lith 30 points 1 year ago

I noticed the same thing! It seems like Hulu was really keen on making the first episode all about Hulu, which was annoying and a big red flag for me. Last time I remember they made a "we're back on a new channel" joke it was a bit more subtle and all of 15 seconds long. This new episode just felt like one long eternalized ad.

[-] jscummy@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 year ago

To be fair the episode was centered around streaming so it makes sense to have some Hulu jokes. Although that might just be an excuse to include more Hulu jokes

[-] DoctorWhookah@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

There were several Hulu jokes in the Animaniacs reboot too. I wasn’t too put off by them. I guess its trendy these days. Netflix OC Black Mirror is full of meta.

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[-] Gamey@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Wait, Futurama is back?!!!

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Yes

[-] GenderNeutralBro 1 points 1 year ago

First episode of the new season was released last Monday.

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[-] Puzzle_Sluts_4Ever@lemmy.world 63 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

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[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 40 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

So I understand what you are saying, but as somebody who has watched way too much Futurama then he would ever care to admit, I feel the need to make an important distinction about it that I think might help frame the objective of the article better.

Futurama is generally not a pop-culture/current events show. Any references they make to pop-culture are generally dated (intentionally)/or semi-timeless. Some episodes are the exception, like Proposition Infinity and Eye-Phone (whatever the ep is called), but these are not the norm and definitely don’t happen with as much frequency as you’d see in shows like The Simpsons or South Park. It’s part of what makes Futurama so damn good. What I find the show reflects over time is values changing. The way they stop making being gay a joke over time. The way they stop using masculinity as a joke (unless there’s a particular intent with it/commentary), things like that. The relationships between characters evolve and morph and show how society has changed. The things that bother them, even.

I’m on a plane about to take off so I need to stop there. But I think if you decouple the idea that Futurama is a current events/current pop culture show, which if you look at all of the episodes you will see is rarely the case, I think it will make the article seem less lazy and more thoughtful than it originally seemed. That being said I admit it emphasizes the current events episodes too much. But their observation about “The Gender Bender” for instance is more in line with what I’m saying.

[-] ChrisLicht@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Good comment. How was the flight?

[-] hoodatninja@kbin.social 3 points 1 year ago

Ha thanks! More time at the airport than on the plane but nothing to complain about. As good as you can hope for flying in the US lol

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[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 31 points 1 year ago

Everytime I see headlines about documenting periods with TV productions the Simpson kick in.

A single blue collar income capable of buying a house, two cars and food for a family of 6.

Did not realize it was a fantasy show.

[-] ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Homer has a union job — he was literally head of the union — and Marge got to keep all that Pretzel Wagon money after the Investorettes hired the Yakuza to take out her mafia protectors.

[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 year ago

^^ This guy simpson

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

6? Are you counting Hugo or something?

[-] paholg@lemm.ee 14 points 1 year ago

It's mentioned various times that they're paying for grandpa's stay at the retirement home, so I imagine that's the sixth.

[-] Rekonok@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Yup I was counting Abraham

[-] Pulptastic@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

Fish heads aren't cheap nowadays

[-] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Tbf, blue collar jobs at nuke plants can pay very well. I knew a tradesman who worked at a plant near me that was paid very well to essentially just always be on call on site in case something in his area of expertise needed fixing, which really does remind me of Homer sleeping on the job because most of the time nuke plants just run themselves.

[-] yip-bonk@kbin.social 16 points 1 year ago

"Changes aren't permanent.
But change is."

-Stoner Headbang

[-] FormlessMartian@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

I just recently started rewatching and I was amused by the “gender neutral pac-person” arcade cabinet in the first season, a gag that became even more topical over time.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

Zeitgeist / Hegel.

He argued that art reflects the culture of the time in which it was created.

Suspect this is especially true for larger productions, where you have numerous people influencing the production, writers, producers, actors, the studio, director, etc.

[-] Jaxia@toast.ooo 3 points 1 year ago

Star Trek is the same way. Look at the newer series and how many of them reflect contemporary issues.

[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 7 points 1 year ago

Tbh, an episode like "A Taste of Freedom" seems unthinkable now.

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 6 points 1 year ago

I just refreshed with a summary and don't see why it would be unthinkable now.

[-] ProcurementCat@feddit.de 11 points 1 year ago

This overly patriotic "freedom of speech", "earth is the free-est planet ever" and "I'm conservative but I will fight tooth and nail for his freedom of speech" is definitely not how american conservatives today are. They are more about banning books, over-regulating everything including your genitals and "lol seethe and cope librul".

[-] oldGregg@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

"I'm conservative but I will fight tooth and nail for his freedom of speech" is definitely not how american conservatives today are.

That's the same today.

They say 'I'm conservative BUT I respect free speech.'

Not 'I'm conservative SO I respect free speech.'

[-] snooggums@kbin.social 2 points 1 year ago

It still works as a contrast to authoritarian regimes like Russia clamping down on dissent, and would require minimal rework if any.

[-] thorbot@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

The first episode was very meh. No moments where I actually really laughed. Not a great start to the reboot.

[-] CaptPretentious@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

It wasn't strong, but I felt like it was to rebase the whole thing. Because it retcons part of the previous end and sort of set expectations for going forward. Like drawing a line in the sand. This is Futurama and this is Hulu's Futurama

[-] scbasteve7@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

This is a VERY good way to put it. I imagine its hard to start where they left off with so much time in between. Writing styles and comedy have changed within the last 10 years. We're in the age of attention on top of that.

Im not saying that it wont be Futurama. It will be. It just wont taking off running with the steam they left off at.

And i think thats exactly what the first episode encapsulated. It wasnt bad. But it didnt really have any juice to it. To me it felt like it was because they were more focused on shoving the 'idea' of futurama down your throat more than anything else.

With that said, I really do hope the next couple of episodes are better.

[-] nostradiel@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

So far only one joke made me laugh in every episode. Hopefully it will get better. We need some crazy bender episode. 😇

[-] some_guy 3 points 1 year ago

Aha! Thank you for reminding me that the new season had started. I just downloaded the first ep (fuck hulu).

[-] nostradiel@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I found it horrendous that they placed their name in the title.. Fuck Hulurama, it's Futurama. I like it more than The Simpsons so I hope they won't fuck it up like The Simpsons.

[-] beefcat@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Are you really complaining about the title sequence gag?

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