Honestly its rude to be invited by a country to meet their president who decided to respond to your criticisms of their administration only to not show up and go meet the opposition.
Being invided and then no showing shows complete disregard to basic diplomatic Etiquette since it was a mission to show solidarity against the embargo
Bonus socdems being cringe part 4.5: about another member that didnt show up to the presidential meeting
Deeply unserious people
These fucking idiots get the possibility of meeting with and creating an ally for their cause with state resources that has actively used those resources to secretly fund and support foreign causes in the past and they stupidly do this shit?
Absolute fucking idiots. I have no other words. The complete and total failure to see an opportunity presenting itself to these morons is beyond stupidity.
The complete and total failure to see an opportunity presenting itself to these morons is beyond stupidity.
It's beyond stupidity alright. No one is this fucking stupid, so the only reasonable conclusion is that they're ops.
I genuinely don't think they actually thought through any of this. They've treated it like it's some school trip where a class gets to meet the prez and say a few words. Not as a real and serious political organisation trying to make ties that will benefit their cause.
Would they behave this way with the UK? With Norway or Sweden? Countries that wouldn't give them the time of day and wouldn't support them? Would they offend them with criticisms of how they run their states if given any kind of diplomatic welcome? I somehow think they wouldn't. They'd treat it like a westerners day out.
They went there to lecture them. Imbeciles. A country that in the past has not been against literally arming their allies in foreign nations. Let alone providing lukewarm resource support.
Just incredible shortsightedness. These are people you should be building trust with to eventually reach the point of collaboration.
They went there to lecture them.
Exactly. Why did this arrogant westoid think they have any right to share their "critiques" anyway. Extremely patient and kind of Diaz-Canal to even entertain their bullshit and offer them a private meeting to address their critiques. Critiques and reforms of the Cuban project should come from Cubans, not from Americans. Why does she think she has any right to dictate anything to the Cubans whatsoever? She's so arrogant she thinks she has the solution while Cubans are just too stupid to figure it out? She should have been there to learn, not to lecture.
Why the fuck are you even going to Cuba as a member of a political party if you skip a meeting with the goddamn president? This should get them expelled, but I suppose that might be too authoritarian.
How to build bridges, apparently
This reminds me of a recent podcast on Rev Left where he interviewed three Pan-Africanists who were part of a delegation in Cuba: https://revolutionaryleftradio.libsyn.com/on-cuba-and-haiti-the-fight-for-liberation-self-determination-in-the-caribbean
One of them has been to these conferences in Cuba multiple times and would mention how US leftists would constantly bring ideological and sectarian baggage with them and how Cuban communists have to constantly tell them to remove their heads from their asses and stfu (It's around 13:00 into the podcast).
If anyone still wonders why the global south thinks the western "left" is a joke, this is a perfect example.
If I were to conduct a diplomatic faux pas on that level, I would resign from embarrassment.
nah instead double down and cause internal strife in your organization, that's the American pigheaded way
THEN WHY THE FUCK DID YOU EVEN GO DUMBFUCKS??????????
it's called a vacation sweaty 💅
Maria in particular met with anti-government opposition groups while on delegation
Bruh
I don't fuck with just fedjacketing anyone but this is fed shit
The person she interviewed is a journalist who is mostly famous from their coverage of the small San Isidro movement, which is NED funded and supports Trump and the blockade. So yeah, indirectly it is fed shit 100%. The only question is if she’s just naive or if she’s malevolent
jesus christ, imagine being able to meet the top goat of cuba and SKIPPING OUT
fucking losers
It was the two succdem caucuses, the image describing events is from the commie caucus calling out their asses
Hopefully Maria and Renée get blowback for this.
NATO leftist scum. Had the same experience when I visited a chapter as a leftist Guatemalan with actual success in my city and these fucks used obnoxious idpol to downplay our gains and whined about how we weren’t that strong while listening to European leftists who achieved less than us.
Read Maria’s response as she lists “poc voices” to use them against Cuba. This is what NATO leftists do and their irritatingly academic way of speaking combined with the sheer arrogance and chauvinism is why most in the global south hate them.
We went to Cuba as reps of our party and even warned them about NATO leftists. They laughed and said they’re well aware of them.
not surprising. shameful, pathetic behavior, but not surprising in the least.
Idea for a ~~bit~~ serious reform of the DSA: AES country invites DSA leadership to visit, then refuses to grant exit visas until they've harvested 100 tonnes of wheat by hand.
My strategic reasoning is that I think it's counterproductive to advocating for an end to the embargo to meet with the head of a state that will credibly be accused of authoritarianism.
Holy shit. It's literally just "muh authoritarianism." And coming out of some of the more powerful caucuses too. This is the best the DSA can muster?
"Deeply unserious people," indeed.
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it is time, Maria and Reneé