I think in a sane world, after the "grab 'em by the pussy" tape came out we'd have never heard from him again.

It's been said the pain of the bamboozle is too much for most to acknowledge so they continue to double down on it. The great grifters and conmen know this and use it to their advantage.

Many think it's only the stupid and uneducated that are taken in by these scams. At times it's the tribal nature that we can get caught up in.

Often the educated are worse off as they know better and the grave injury to their egos won't allow them to announce to others they have fallen victim as it's pretty embarrassing. They take their lumps and move on with their lives if they do recognize they have fallen into these traps.

It's going to be many years before we get to the other side and then I wonder if it will be like what the Spanish referred to as the Miracle that occurred when Franco died.

After decades in power, the citizens that fought for Franco and supported him ceased to exist. When asked everyone fought against Franco in the civil war and they secretly fought against him at every level of society, government, and the military. It was miracle how he came to power and won a war with no support from anyone at any level within Spain.

If we ever get past the identity association of team Orange it will be interesting who is found to still be supporting this current day madness especially among the religious groups that support a man that displays so many of the things many of the regular members would be chastised for...

The thing that makes this somewhat relevant is how close the election is. If those tapes exist, and you can get them to the right social media accounts, it might make 0.5 percent of his voters reconsider (and that might be sufficient).

A Trump voter quote that always live rent free in my head is "He's not hurting the people he needs to be hurting".

It tells you everything they need to know about them. They have a shit life, and they want to make damn sure everyone else has a shit life too.

Only because they have a misguided sense of revenge and want to blame the libs for their truncated life expectations when in fact they’ve been supporting and voting for the very politicians most likely to keep pushing their heads under water.

They want to hurt their opponents. They don’t care what the price is.

Every single time he opens his mouth would be enough.

Donald Trump taught the worst of us that it not only is okay to be a bigoted racist, but that it is okay to be that in public.

It might hamper his apparent surging popularity among black voters

A lot of people only care about things when they’re impacted

He'd play the tape at campaign events just to rile them up.

Good news: There are tapes!

Bad news: He will face absolutely no consequences from them.

Amazon owns the show now so they have the tapes if they still exist.

Ugh I don’t miss that fool. He’s apparently writing fiction now…

You're 100% spot on. In 2015 Donald Trump was literally being endorsed by KKK Wizards and when pressed to admonish/censure them he refused.

This is literally not news.

I mean... I regularly work under NDAs in tv and they are usually pretty mild but I did one season of... Something that came out inside the past 10 years...and the entire thing was mad brained including the NDA. Production wise these sleazy reality tv things are grifts. If the core reality of them is questioned then it hurts the "integrity" of the brand and ultimately the production company's bottom dollar. If you don't buy into the reality aspects those shows lose most of their appeal.

I can't even begin to say how weird it was to be crew. There's like this whole fast-track culture where if you're a little competent they will invite you onto the next project with basically the same responsibilities but a jacked up important sounding title. From a technical standpoint I've seen more discipline and good practice on film student projects. They are their own little worlds inside film and if they don't work more reality tv they don't have recognized transferable skills that easily ports to other positions in the industry, so if they want to switch you become a person who has a bunch of entrenched bad habits you have to be trained out of and rehumbled before you can reliably get jobs. The people who get sucked into that world basically live in golden handcuffs.

Fucking seriously. Put up or shut up. Where's all the shit that Tom Arnold said he had too?

Especially now that Trump is actively courting "the black vote" I would think now is a better time than any to release those tapes. I'm sure the parent company owns them and has $ome deal to keep them under wraps though...