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[-] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 15 points 2 days ago

Build it, don't turn it on, watch all the residents complain about new ailments and conditions caused by the 5G.

Reveal that it's never even been powered to really hammer home their ignorant bullshit.

The cognitively impaired should not be able to do this sort of shit.

[-] TimeSquirrel@kbin.melroy.org 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Jesus, an entire town falling for unscientific bullshit.

It's also not like they're going to point the antennas straight down at the school. They have directionality. I bet not one RF engineer was consulted.

I'd like to walk these people through the school with an inductive amplifier probe and let them hear the 60hz hum and its harmonics permeating every hallway and classroom.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 101 points 4 days ago

Ahhh more "health" quacks, I wonder if they also believe the COVID vaccines have 5g chips in them.

The town felt the residents would be 'unsafe' due to radio frequencies and rejected the company's notion of building the tower on the land.

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 82 points 4 days ago

$5 says when they build it anyway everyone starts complaining about health problems, then they say they haven't even turned it on yet

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 34 points 4 days ago

They've definitely done that before, dunno if it was deliberately. They must have somewhat of an idea how long it takes for nocebo to kick in with the local village idiots, if it's short enough it could actually be a rather good idea to make waiting a bit a general policy. Tank some mild capital and opportunity cost to prevent having to battle in court and the town newspaper? Sounds like a win to me.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 68 points 4 days ago

Lol don't tell them about all the radio frequencies around them all the time

[-] aleph@lemm.ee 44 points 4 days ago

Or the EMF generators they carry around with them in their pockets, A.K.A their phones.

[-] ms_lane@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago

Which ironically, would also have less emf if they allowed the tower to be built, as is they'll have higher emf and less battery life, since the radios will have to transmit at a higher power to get a good enough snr to next closest tower in their cell.

[-] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 23 points 4 days ago

Lol yeah, the things that are actually emitting half of every back-and-forth radio communication between a device and a cell tower

[-] cmnybo@discuss.tchncs.de 12 points 3 days ago

Tell them how much power the TV and radio broadcast towers put out and watch them freak out. The analog TV stations ran even higher power than the digital ones do now.

[-] NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.world 12 points 4 days ago

I wonder what they must think of telecommunication satellites.

The space rays are making me sick!

[-] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

TBF, space rays make a lot of people sick. Skin cancer from UV rays.

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[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

Do you remember when people started selling faraday cages to "safeguard" people's routers? So funny lol

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[-] athairmor@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Wait ‘til they learn what the sun is putting out.

[-] Blackmist@feddit.uk 3 points 3 days ago

They're beaming electromagnetic waves into your eyes, man!

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 36 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Ackshually, being too close to high power radio frequencies isn't safe. I remember at one base I was stationed at in Afghanistan, there was a smoke spot we all used to take breaks at. For some reason, I started developing really bad headaches and feeling kind of nauseous. I figured I was just acclimating to the local climate or something. After a few weeks, I was up on our building installing one of our satcom dishes on top of it when I noticed something. Right on the other side of the fence of that smoke area, was a ~2m high powered dish pointing just above above where the smoke area was. I pointed this out to the Norwegians that ran the camp and the break area was promptly moved, lol.

But seriously, I do not understand the anti-5G nutters.

[-] Neato@ttrpg.network 13 points 4 days ago

FCC already has regulations on maximum power. These emitters are usually dozens of feet off the ground as well.

[-] femtech@midwest.social 7 points 4 days ago

Yeah, I was 25B cross trained with 25U and the mobile sat dishes needed cordoned off a certain degree area in front to not walk in front of. And the humvvee antennas on high power could burn you if you touched them while transmitting.

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[-] Cocodapuf@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is hilarious, a win-win in my book. I get to laugh at the ridiculous claim about radio waves frying people's brains or whatever, and at the same time, every day of stalling hurts an exploitive POS telecom company.

I'm rooting for the loonies! Protect our kids! You show those lizard people!

Lol.

But T-Mobile is less bad the other telecoms. The enemy of my enemy and all that.

[-] ShepherdPie@midwest.social 3 points 2 days ago

Not so much anymore after kicking a bunch of people off their plans when they had guaranteed pricing along with a bunch of other shitty shenanigans they've been up to as of late. I've been a customer for close to 20 years but am thinking about jumping ship as of late.

I actually use a T-Mobile MVNO, so I don't have experience with their customer service.

They seem to have the biggest variety of options for resellers, so if you like the coverage but not the customer service, you have options.

[-] 0x0@programming.dev 15 points 3 days ago

The planning board's decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation.

Because that surely would be the only cell tower in town.

[-] the_crotch@sh.itjust.works 15 points 3 days ago

Oh no, not electromagnetism! Someone tell these dipshits we live on a gigantic magnet

[-] zalgotext@sh.itjust.works 4 points 3 days ago

Also tell them we're constantly bombarded by electromagnetic radiation on the daily from the fucking sun

[-] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

And every room has electromagnetic emitters blazing on the ceiling

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 2 points 2 days ago

I wonder what the wifi access in the school is like?

Page 3: Wireless infrastructure at all buildings, in 2015.

[-] KingThrillgore@lemmy.ml 10 points 3 days ago

My 5G coverage isn't good, it may be time for another COVID shot.

[-] cupcakezealot@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 4 days ago

uncarrier only until we buyout sprint and drop the "un".

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 43 points 4 days ago

I really wish the government would do their goddamn jobs regarding monopolies. Instead they are just accepting bribes and facilitating the mergers.

[-] Stoney_Logica1@lemmy.world 23 points 4 days ago

Look into the current grocery monopoly in the making. Kroger is attempting to purchase Albertsons/Safeway.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 27 points 4 days ago

Mind crossposting this to !t_mobile@lemmy.ml?

Also, they will lose. The FCC has said that the companies can build towers where they are needed for coverage. They might have to make it look like a tree or something, but they cannot be rejected from building it.

[-] bassomitron@lemmy.world 35 points 4 days ago

With the supreme Court overturning the Chevron decision last week, I'm not so sure that any federal regulatory bodies have much power anymore unless there's a specific law passed by Congress. That's what made that decision so dangerous, because the same applies to the FDA now regarding drugs and food.

[-] lemmyvore@feddit.nl 27 points 4 days ago

https://www.scotusblog.com/2024/06/supreme-court-strikes-down-chevron-curtailing-power-of-federal-agencies/

A good overview of the circumstances of the recent Chevron decision.

Please note the final paragraph. Koch's goal is exactly this: bringing cases in front of the Supreme Court that, if won, would cause grave disturbances.

[-] shortwavesurfer@monero.town 8 points 4 days ago

You know, that's a good point. I didn't even think of that. But you're right.

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[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago

They are missing out on a chance to get their free 5G magnetic mark of the beast skin

[-] Sam_Bass@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

How does anyone become sensitive to a 5g wireless signal? I could see maybe z pscemaker or some kind brain stimulator device but just a bare bones corpus delecti would seem to be known early enough to decide not to live near the broadcaster

[-] Sabata11792@ani.social 10 points 3 days ago

How does anyone become sensitive to a 5g wireless signal?

Stupid and uneducated people not fit for modern society that get exposed to raw internet tend to be the most vulnerable group.

[-] afraid_of_zombies@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

Not enough attention as a child, wants to get on TV, cant accept that their shit diet and aging means they dont feel like a 21 year old anymore.

Maybe all three.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Ok now everyone put your magnetized needles in the Styrofoam and then make them float in the water to reveal where magnetic north is!

Ahh teacher... Magnetic north is dancing metal rock right now.

[-] bluewing@lemm.ee 4 points 3 days ago

Thank god I'm safe! And I will be dead and gone before it happens here. It's going to be decades before 5G is implemented where I live. Hell, 4G is spotty and unreliable even yet today. Even 3G was terrible.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

My issue with Verizon 5g is that it is worse than their old Edge service.

5g on my signal bar essentially means "doesn't work." It wasn't an issue when I could turn off the 5g radio, but Samsung pushed an update that removed that option.

[-] Imgonnatrythis@sh.itjust.works 11 points 4 days ago

That website was not safe for viewing

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[-] boatsnhos931@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

It's those got damn lizard people

[-] tal@lemmy.today 8 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

The planning board's decision was based on health concerns due to the possible negative environmental impact of telecommunication on the residents, especially the children studying at the school who could potentially be exposed to electromagnetic radiation. The town felt the residents would be 'unsafe' due to radio frequencies and rejected the company's notion of building the tower on the land.

I mean, I think that the planning board is idiotic, but I don't see why T-Mobile cares enough to fight it. If they don't build it, okay. It looks like the school in question is right in the middle of town. Then Wanaque is going to have crummy cell coverage. Let them have bad cell coverage and build a tower somewhere else. It's not like this is the world's only place that could use better cell coverage. The main people who benefit from the coverage are Wanaque residents. Sure, okay, there's some secondary benefit to travelers, but if we get to the point that all the dead zones that travelers pass through out there are covered, then cell providers can go worry about places that are determined not to have have cell coverage.

If I were cell companies, I'd just get together with the rest of the industry and start publishing a coverage score for cities for cell coverage. Put it online in some accessible database format, so that when places like city-data.com put up data on a city, they also show that the city has poor cell coverage and that would-be residents are aware of the fact.

[-] Zak@lemmy.world 10 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

A quick web search for third-party coverage information tells me that Wanaque has good coverage from Verizon and poor coverage from T-Mobile. It's easy to guess why T-Mobile might be motivated to change that situation.

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