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[-] LesDeuxBonsYeux@sh.itjust.works 23 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Being french ATM :

[-] lugal@lemmy.world 26 points 2 days ago

Germany: "We won last time. It's ok to be third place this time."

[-] todd_bonzalez@lemm.ee 19 points 2 days ago

Don't group the US and the UK together here. The UK is on track to expel most of their Conservatives in the next surprise election because the Conservative in charge is an impulsive man-baby. The US is on track to hold their very last election as they fall into a tyranny built by Christofacists and Ultracapitalists and lead by the most ridiculous cult of personality you've ever seen.

[-] Hamartia@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

Eh? Labour has been racing over to the right since Starmer buried all of his leadership election pledges and surrounded himself with all the most reactionary neo-liberal ghouls he could find. They're little different in political outlook from the 2010-15 tory-libdem coalition. Austerity and the "sensible" backing of the expedient genocides here we come.

They aren't out and out fascists but they are heaving that Overton window to the right, so fascist rhetoric will flourish.

[-] Cagi@lemmy.ca 70 points 3 days ago
[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 48 points 3 days ago

Good point. But given that it’s Italy, maybe they already finished.

[-] BruceTwarzen@lemm.ee 16 points 3 days ago

They are already in the showers

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[-] J4g2F@lemmy.ml 7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The Netherlands just finished and walked out of this picture. But yeah we now have new discussions in Congress if umvolkung/the great replacement theory is a fact or if it a fascist conspiracy theory. According to the cabinet it's a fact and you can be minister and believe in it. (For example the minister that's decideds about immigration)

[-] cows_are_underrated@feddit.org 5 points 2 days ago

Germany too(but its not as bad as in the States yet).

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[-] CptEnder@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

As an American moving to France soon (work), come on mannnn...

[-] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 4 points 2 days ago

It's never going to be US-insane.

Just regular old fascism.

[-] Yeller_king@reddthat.com 13 points 2 days ago

European fascism was pretty insane.

[-] zakobjoa@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

Oh, no debate there. But it's America, everything is bigger there. Jokes aside, the whole Christian Nationalism is terrifying me.

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[-] lauha@lemmy.one 3 points 2 days ago

Imagine US being part of Axis powers in WW3.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 56 points 3 days ago

Why are the UK on here, were about to vote in a left wing party.

[-] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 72 points 3 days ago

were about to vote in a left wing party

Bahahahahahahaha, omg I needed a good laugh this evening., thanks..

Guy literally purged every halfway leftist in the fucking party, and has spent his entire time as leader, and is aiming his entire election campaign on, pleasing capitalists and maintain the status quo. The man doesn't have a left leaning bone in his spineless self serving body.

[-] roguetrick@lemmy.world 24 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Dude literally promised to continue tory policies. He's a fucking Tory in a labour suit.

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[-] chumbalumber@lemmy.blahaj.zone 27 points 3 days ago

Eh, still better than the Tories. Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left, which I'm all for

[-] DessertStorms@lemmy.blahaj.zone 29 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Supermajority begins the process of dragging the overton window back left

Literally the opposite.

Normalising the current Labour party as anything even remotely left, which it isn't in any way shape or form, shifts the window to the right by removing actual left from the map altogether. That's the whole point of Starmer - to regain back ground for the right after what Corbyn awoke in the party and country.

We are getting a Tory whoever wins, they just wear different coloured ties.

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[-] Gradually_Adjusting@lemmy.world 29 points 3 days ago

Starmer's Labour is about as left wing as the US Democrats are; by comparison only.

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago

I mean, he really isn't. He's far to the left of them.

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[-] ptz@dubvee.org 13 points 3 days ago

Not counting chickens until they're hatched, I guess?

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[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 5 points 3 days ago

When did the UK get a new major party? Or are you just being wrong and calling the labor party left wing while their policies are just torie light?

[-] Tagger@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago

Honestly, they are talking about relations allowing the rail - they are left wing. Starmer just happens to be a pragmatist who actually wanted to get elected. You wait and see how much better state the country is in after 5 years under a left end labour government

[-] FluffyPotato@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

While privatizing healthcare and continuing anti trans policies. If the only way to be elected in the UK is to really far right shit then that's some societal rot right there.

The UK may even be doing better in 5 years but that would be an insanely low bar, currently the only economically viable area is London and the whole country is being overtaken by fucking Poland economically.

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[-] brbposting@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Are you allowed to leap across the finish line like that?

Edit: guess so?

[-] mkwt@lemmy.world 39 points 3 days ago

You're allowed to use any mode of locomotion in a track race, including skipping, crawling, or moonwalking, as long as it's under your own power.

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[-] Veraxus@lemmy.world 41 points 3 days ago

If only the American public responded like the French public when fascists try to seize power.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 59 points 3 days ago
[-] Esqplorer@lemmy.zip 28 points 3 days ago

For real, the French Resistance is estimated at like 3% of their people lol

[-] EmpathicVagrant@lemmy.world 14 points 3 days ago

We’re corn-fed financial cattle, we can work sleep and handle a dozen crises at once individually; yet we’re unable to see that we share objectives because of team politics and exclusionary grouping. A lack of solidarity because it’s not allowed.

[-] gi1242@lemmy.world 15 points 3 days ago

what did France recently do to leap ahead?

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 38 points 3 days ago

Marie Le Pew’s far-right party is gathering more followers for ? reasons?

[-] TransplantedSconie@lemm.ee 23 points 3 days ago

Macron's party is pulling out of races to give the socialists a better chance of cutting off the nazis.

It could work. We will see.

[-] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago

Don't give them too much credit, everyone's doing it and they were the last to do so too.

[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Don’t give Macron too much credit here.

He’s the one to blame for the far right’s victory with his same-same language, has he pushed the discourse that the left party is in fact a dangerous antisemitic far left party.

The left party was the first to pull out of races to let macron’s representatives win against the far right, even though it would cost them much more.

Macron is an absolute POS.

[-] smooth_tea@lemmy.world 5 points 2 days ago

I'm speaking in general terms because I'm not familiar with French politics, I just live in a neighboring country. But are we really surprised that it's moving in that direction? In a general sense, the right will always blossom in climates like these, migrants pouring in from decades of war, prices skyrocketing, the Russia affair further polarizing and instilling fear, a general lack of progress. But more importantly, while the right does its best to cultivate the most basic of emotional responses, the left seems unable to come up with anything attractive let alone exciting. And we can argue that progress and good choices can be utterly dull and unappealing, at some point we will have to realize that good ideas still need to be marketed to the people and that it's not enough to equate anything right-wing with fascism and hope that it will do the heavy lifting. We have become preoccupied with complaining about the right in such a way that we can no longer allow critique of what the left is failing to do. If they can do no good then we can do no wrong.

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[-] joneskind@lemmy.world 12 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Marie Le Pew sounds way too nice for that POS

It’s Marine Le Pen, and her goon Jordan Bardella (who has Algerian origins from his grandmother but ignores that completely and prefers talking about his Italian origins from his grandfather)

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[-] SomethingBurger@jlai.lu 12 points 3 days ago

The reason being that a single fascist billionaire owns several TV channels, radio stations and newspapers.

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[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Whatever it was, the US Supreme Court deciding that presidents are immune from prosecution beats it by a very, very long shot.

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