It really annoys me how creepy misogynist awful people think they get to represent the traditional family.

I have a super traditional looking family. Stay at home mom and everything. But it is sick and disgusting to act like having a setup you enjoy means it’s the only valid one. You see, we care more about raising a decent and happy person than indoctrinating them into some belief system that focuses on who our enemies are.

Rejecting loving families because they look different than traditional does not make you the representatives of traditional, fucknuts.

Hey, are you accusing me of being a bad person because I run a Mormon parenting vlog while my kids are malnourished and escaping and running for help?!

I'm not Ruby Franke or Jodi Hildebrandt. I don't know why you'd think that. Stop asking.

This - while I'd argue that feeding raw milk to children, for instance, is probably in violation of local statutes in most of the US, the overall premise isn't necessarily invalid - the idea of forcing it on others and packaging/selling it as an influencer is what's flawed.

My wife and I have a carefully negotiated relationship that is nowhere near tradwife, but not necessarily contemporary traditional either. I ended up in the hospital recently, and all that went out the window - she spoke for me, signed various forms of consent on my behalf, and the like as/when necessary.

The "tradwife" package seems to ignore that such moments will be necessary in any life, especially one with kids involved, and certainly any life that involves the risks of e.g., farm work. People get hurt and need consent for treatment, folks get sick and need to handle business over the phone but are unable to speak on their own behalf because they're sick, etc.

From where I sit, anything resembling what the tradwife influencers are selling is completely invalid/impractical without an 'escape hatch' allowing the (generally) submissive spouse to take the reins as an when necessary and of their own volition... along with ensuring that said spouse has a functional understanding of how and when to do so, per the laws of their particular state.

Without that, you're just playing a damned risky game that has a realistic chance of causing serious injury to one or more involved parties in the medium term.

Idk if it were a fetish, I'd be seriously into it... Sort of. Denying your wife an epidural? You are no longer in a dom/sub relationship because you just broke consent. You force your wife to become pregnant before she's ready? That's rape. Dictating that she does all the chores, child rearing, dinner, family shit while you just make money? That's lazy and greedy.

Like all these types are living in the country, super model attractive, clearly pandering to conservatives. Like shit, the idea of having 6 kids? I think that's fun, especially if they are spaced just a bit apart, and plenty of living space. Sure, you get to spend less time with each kid individually, but then you get to watch each one turn into their own person, and hopefully you've given them enough energy that they will live a good life later.

It's a fantasy pandering to conservatives that it can be "real." Since they are influencers? It's automatically not real.

It is, free use is a thing this is just free use with bullshit rules made a couple thousand years ago by a cult of incel dudes.

Yes

Nature wants 5/7 of your kids to make it and for you to die at 50 or something...

Lol that's low-key overly optimistic

In typical USA society, precarious access to healthcare due to exorbitant prices certainly helps keep the average population age down.

Nature doesn’t want anything. It’s not a person. It’s not even a thing. It’s just an idea.

Unfortunately, this is true but they'll also mix it with honey and pour it on you as well. Bugs and rats will then start to eat you alive along with the bacteria. It's called Scaphism.

They thinks it's better for you or something because it's not processed. It's actually worse, can make you really sick if you get unlucky

Raw milk is one of the leading ways of getting the new avian flu

Some people get crazy about it.
The US in general had some way worse listeria outbreaks than Europe did in the window where pasteurization laws were first becoming things anyone was considering, so we start from a much more "your milk will be made safe" place.

As a result, raw milk, while still uncommon, can be sold in stores or other "normal" retail settings in most of Europe, and it's probably what will be used for cheese manufacturing.
In the US, it's only available via stores that sell it exclusively via club membership, and you might get raided by the USDA if they suspect you're trying to skirt the rules about membership. (Some stores have done hourly membership that comes with a free gallon of milk). Milk must also be pasteurized before being used for cheese, which creates a market for black market cheeses that can't be made with pasteurized milk but aren't cost effective to import past the various taxes we put on luxury cheese.

As a result most Americans are either far more wary of raw milk, because our laws were written before modern milking practices reduced sanitary concerns to what we accept for meat, or they develop a persecution complex and ascribe it quasi-magical powers, ironically often getting it from places that don't follow the sanitary practices that render it likely benign.

It's really good if you want to catch an infection. My father in law had cows, would always boil the milk before consuming it because he didn't want to get sick.

It's what you want for cheese and butter making. Other than that, it's probably a reason there was a fair bit of kids that died before pasteurization.

When I was a kid, we still had milk cows so I probably dodged a bullet, and it wasn't that my parents were some back-to-the-earth whackos, it was just Canadian rural life in the 70s. I do remember milk tasting better then though.

A show on TLC, then an episode on Behind the Bastards.

the seventh one is from her husbands girlfriend probably.

No, she just didn't want the last one