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Not much info here but I wonder if these were some sort of fake NES/SNES/Mega Drive minis or just handheld emulation devices in general

I was wondering if shipping SD cards full of ROMs would ever come to bite the manufacturers in the ass and I guess it might have. Will this be a one-off thing or a sign of a wider EU crackdown? I think there was a warning earlier issued by some agency this month about how the solder in one of the Anbernic devices exceeded EU's maximum lead levels

Edit: There's a video of the Italian cops' raid on the warehouse where the devices were being held, looks like a large variety of different devices

https://youtu.be/U4lYIzijJSU?si=mmvXSsipSaMEnaOv

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[-] unperson@hexbear.net 53 points 6 days ago

12,000 consoles … for an estimated value of more than 47.5 million euros.

Each console costs 40 grand? doubt

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 40 points 6 days ago

It's hilarious when they apply the same math they use to calculate the worth of drug busts to something like this

[-] FourteenEyes@hexbear.net 29 points 6 days ago

Software licensing. For games you literally can't buy anymore in most cases.

[-] Awoo@hexbear.net 27 points 6 days ago

They probably have 1000 games on each console that you can select from in a list and they're pricing based on that. Ridiculous.

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Black Book of Cummunism-ass "math"

[-] CliffordBigRedDog@hexbear.net 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

What is the charge?

Enjoying a game? Enjoying a succulent Chinese retro game?

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 28 points 6 days ago

The most diabolical of crimes: copyright infringement

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 42 points 6 days ago

Italy still mad that China has evidence of inventing noodles first

[-] Alunyanners@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 6 days ago

...yet people still call it noodles instead of 面/miàn 😭

Iirc remains of fast food bars which most likely served noodles were found even in ancient Troy, ancient Rome definitely had those too, but the Italians went backward so much they even have a legend that Marco Polo brought noodles from China. In reality noodles in Italia most likely appeared by the same route as everything else in antiquity, from Greeks (often with Etruscan middlemanning).

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[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 43 points 6 days ago

Around 12,000 consoles with 47 million games

No. That is incorrect. Each console had a few thousand games, and you did bullshit math to make that sound worse. Each copy of a rom does not count as an individual video game, that’s an insane way to measure things.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 41 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

10 grams of Mario would be worth 50k on the streets according to Cop Math™️

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

Like, this would mean that if I took a rom for Super Mario Bros and hit ctrl-c ctrl-v 10,000 times you could say I have 10,000 video games. Thats insanity.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 23 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty sure Nintendo's lawyer ghouls would argue you just described illegally producing 10,000 illegal copies of SMB and would need to be punished accordingly

[-] AndJusticeForAll@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Infinite crime.

[-] ClimateChangeAnxiety@hexbear.net 18 points 6 days ago

Which is why Nintendo’s lawyers deserve barbara-pit

Hell, most lawyers in general, but especially IP lawyers.

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 14 points 6 days ago

I'm freebasing Mario Sunshine, fuck the police.

[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

Going into a Fluddhole

[-] sawne128@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

But what about those Famicom cassettes on which it is written "9999999 games in 1!"?

[-] bigbrowncommie69@hexbear.net 35 points 6 days ago

Why crack down on people traffickers when you can take down some video game smugglers instead

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago

People aren't eating counterfeit Sega Saturns before they board a plane from China, some Italians were presumably just ordering retro emulation devices in bulk from China

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 24 points 6 days ago

Anbernic is fine. They don't directly ship roms on cards. They probably got a bunch of those cheap ESP32 8bit devices that come loaded with every NES game. Fuck Italy and fuck IP law. I'm not a Chomsky fan but he is right about IP. It's a tool used to supress industry in the global south.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

I'm pretty sure they do ship sd cards with roms though, unless it's the resellers on AE who supply those

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago

It's resellers. Anbernic insulated themselves a few years ago.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Didn't they just have a bit of a controversy over the summer where they were going to start preloading their Linux-based consoles with Portmaster ports?

The way it's supposed to work is that you supply the game files yourself the way the Super Mario 64 PC port does it

From what I understand Anbernic was about to just add the games already ported which caused the retro emulation scene to beg them not to do it

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[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 22 points 6 days ago

I'm sure the wealthy kulaks that hoard retro video games and sell them at collector prices will be pleased.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 11 points 6 days ago

Nintendo loves to sell overpriced retro nostalgia crap, like mini-consoles that have laughably few games and forcibly cram in Ice Climbers as one of the few offerings.

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I think the age of the retro mini console is over, it's all about subscription services now

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 9 points 6 days ago

I think the age of the retro mini console is over

dean-smile

it's all about subscription services now

dean-frown

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

How about... cloud-based subscription services?

agony-mescaline

Pretty sure that's Sony's approach to their back catalogue

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Oh boy more shit that will vanish the moment a suit feels like it! :AgonyRossScott:

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago

I'm going to become one of those great reset guys except about cloud gaming

[-] bortsampson@hexbear.net 6 points 6 days ago

Probably end of consoles in general at this point.

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[-] GalaxyBrain@hexbear.net 21 points 6 days ago

"Don Cicio! The bootleg game consoles have been seized by la carabinieri!"

[-] Findom_DeLuise@hexbear.net 4 points 5 days ago

Mario sleeps with the fishes.

[-] ShinkanTrain@lemmy.ml 17 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Real Gs buy chinese flashcarts and fill them with ROMs themselves 🫡

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[-] peeonyou@hexbear.net 15 points 6 days ago

thank god! i don't know how many nights of sleep have been lost over that whole fiasco. the amount of profits that some non-existing companies probably could have missed out on is unthinkable

[-] Rojo27@hexbear.net 17 points 6 days ago

Braver than the troopsrat-salute

[-] Krem@hexbear.net 13 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

I wonder if these were some sort of fake NES/SNES/Mega Drive minis or just handheld emulation devices in general

the most common ones i've seen are

1: game boy that is actually an NES emulator with 999 games on it (with a usb port you can plug a fake NES controller into and play 2P)

and 2: the bar/coffee shop version which is a small arcade machine with two sticks and two buttons and is usually an NES or SNES emulator with a game selection screen. this one sometimes has qr codes to scan and pay with weixin/alipay before you can play

[-] doublepepperoni@hexbear.net 8 points 6 days ago

The Anbernic/Retroid/etc generic emulation devices should be completely safe if they dropped the bundled roms, but on the other hand I suspect those sd cards are a big reason why the devices sell in the first place

[-] Waldoz53@hexbear.net 10 points 6 days ago

first they came for the Gamers...

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 6 points 5 days ago

Lmao what a waste of resources for emulators

Real Rebels of the Neon God moment

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