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[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 22 points 16 hours ago

Knowledge is knowing Frankenstein wasn't the monster.

Wisdom is knowing he was.

[-] Commiejones@hexbear.net 6 points 7 hours ago

Pedantry is asserting that as Dr. Frankenstein's creation/child the monster should by all rights be called Mr. Frankenstein.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

And I gave my heart to know wisdom, madness and folly, and I perceived that all is vanity and vexation of spirit. For in much wisdom is much grief, and he that increaseth knowledge, increaseth sorrow.

[-] your_moms_account@hexbear.net 10 points 15 hours ago

Hate when people say this. The monster does horrible things to innocent people, whereas Victor doesn't really do anything out of malice. And everyone always talks about what a fine gentleman Victor is every time they mention him.

Moreover the quote is basically, "knowledge is repeating a fact you heard somewhere, wisdom is repeating a glib misinterpretation you heard somewhere"

[-] mctoasterson@reddthat.com 2 points 4 hours ago

Tongue was pretty far planted in cheek as I was saying this.

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 61 points 22 hours ago

Oh this shit again

THE ENTIRE POINT OF FRANKENSTEIN IS AN ALLEGORY FOR THE ACT OF CREATION

FRANKENSTEIN MADE A LIVING THING WITHOUT CONSIDERING THE RESULT AND IN DOING SO, DROVE HIS CREATION TO ACTS OF MALICE AND MADNESS!

WE ARE ALL MADE VICTIMS, WE ARE ALL MADE MONSTERS!

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 14 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago)

Did I request thee, Maker, from my clay

To mould me man? Did I solicit thee

From darkness to promote me?

[-] HexaSnoot@hexbear.net 4 points 15 hours ago

I thought this was from the story of the Golem.

[-] anarchoilluminati@hexbear.net 5 points 14 hours ago

It's actually from Paradise Lost by John Milton, Adam says it when he is becoming defiant towards God. It's quite a sad scene and a generally tragic story, but it's my favorite piece of literature. I've never read Frankenstein but I know it's quoted on the title page so thought it was fitting, even though I don't think Milton really thought we were created monsters as much as we become monsters but that's a different question. Even Satan laments and regrets his defiance and secretly admits to himself that God wasn't unfair towards him.

I'm not sure if Milton was influenced by a line from the story of the Golem though.

[-] take_five_seconds@hexbear.net 38 points 22 hours ago

wow WOKE nerd actually READS BOOK

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 26 points 22 hours ago

I was reading chapter books when I was 5, I had to do for myself what my USAan schools refused to

[-] Nakoichi@hexbear.net 3 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago)

Me too. Started with Treasure Island after I taught myself to read by memorizing the children's books my mom would read to me.

Didn't get to Frankenstein till I was in college but I actually wrote an entire essay on it as an allegory for creation but also as an allegory for man's desire to overcome death by creating something they would come to worship in a sense, in this case scientism.

[-] hexaflexagonbear@hexbear.net 15 points 22 hours ago* (last edited 22 hours ago)

That's because the USian schools were trying to teach you the winners mindset of delegating your readungs to some egghead at coles notes.

[-] BeamBrain@hexbear.net 11 points 21 hours ago

Whoa was Frankenstein actually antinatalist???

[-] FlakesBongler@hexbear.net 20 points 21 hours ago

More about parental responsibilities really

If Frankenstein had cared more for his creation, then his creation wouldn't have gone off the deep end

[-] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 24 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

Is this satire? Must be a slow news day if they’re caring about universities discussing books they haven’t read in ways they don’t like. They say that as if they haven’t been trying to do the Draco in Leather Pants trope over the goddamn confederacy or Nazi Germany.

What’s the matter? Not enough brown people to fearmonger over?

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 12 points 19 hours ago

It's from 2018, but not satire.

[-] VILenin@hexbear.net 10 points 20 hours ago

I imagine the following path to publication:

Some Nazi incel STEMlord is forced by the woke SJW cabal to READ a BOOK in COMMIE LITERATURE GE class 1984 —> whines about it to his shithead parents in the hopes they sue the school for violating his rights —> Shithead parents make a phone call to their friend who writes ragebait articles for a nazi tabloid hoping to ride the coattails into a fox news appearance

[-] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 42 points 23 hours ago

I fucking hate Western politics. This culture war shit is just brainrot

[-] your_moms_account@hexbear.net 9 points 21 hours ago

This comrade gets it

[-] TerminalEncounter@hexbear.net 29 points 22 hours ago

...did they read the book?? You cant really help but feel bad for Adam (he called himself Adam at some point, been a while). He was absolutely right to wanna kill Frankenstein, Frankenstein created him and then was fucking awful about it

[-] plinky@hexbear.net 17 points 22 hours ago

orphaned child rejected by society and parents

this says a lot about science and creation of life over-your-head

(i also remember feeling very bad for the guy)

[-] RION@hexbear.net 4 points 17 hours ago

Iirc the phrasing is like "I ought to have been thy Adam," so more of him evoking the biblical theme than advancing it as a name he'd like to go by

And also... Bro did kill one child and two adults that had absolutely nothing to do with his anguish. Definitely pitiable but not exactly in the right

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[-] ElChapoDeChapo@hexbear.net 35 points 23 hours ago

The woman writer made Frankenstein woke, this is why they should've hired fans

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 18 points 21 hours ago

when I was in high school I was in the teacher's supply closet and stole a copy of Frankenstein that one of the other classes was reading. I'm 100% sure if I just asked my teacher to borrow a copy she wouldve lent it to me no questions asked. it had this cover art

this is unrelated to the thread but it's a fun little memory I share when I remember Frankenstein is a thing.

[-] wtypstanaccount04@hexbear.net 2 points 12 hours ago

oh hey that's the book cover I read it with

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 21 points 21 hours ago

that's not Frankensteins monster

that's just some guy

[-] Flocklesscrow@lemm.ee 16 points 20 hours ago

Frankenstein's neighbor.

[-] your_moms_account@hexbear.net 16 points 21 hours ago

It looks so much more like Frankenstein's monster than the pop culture thing does.

Information about its appearance in the book: a bigger-than-average human sewn together from large bits of corpses.

That looks like it.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 11 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago)

True, much more accurate than Mr Bolt Through The Neck, but in my mind the stitching was always more apparent, and the parts less perfect in their symmetry.

[-] GrouchyGrouse@hexbear.net 10 points 19 hours ago

The part that always is funny to me is that somebody just decided to make him a mint green color like something you'd see in a 1950s furniture store and everyone just rolled with it

[-] ComradeMonotreme@hexbear.net 5 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago)

There's mixed reaction to the 1994 film, but what I liked is that initially the stitching is very obvious as well as as the asymmetry of the various body parts. But as the film goes on the stitches have fallen out or rotted away and the join areas have scarred and then faded, everything sort of settling into place. So he looks like a very scarred man rather than a sewn together creation, which highlights that he is more of a living being not a zombie or undead.

[-] MaoTheLawn@hexbear.net 1 points 7 hours ago

Mmm, I should watch that.

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[-] DengistDonnieDarko@hexbear.net 15 points 21 hours ago

imagine someone taking your picture then telling you "this is for my book about a MONSTROUS FREAK who KILLS PEOPLE"

oh ... okay .... kitty-birthday-sad

[-] AnarchoSnowPlow@midwest.social 13 points 20 hours ago

Nah nah nah nah, the big brain take here is that this is Poe's law in action and the writer is a plant who's been waiting for their moment.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 20 points 22 hours ago

Nonwoke take on one of the oldest monster stories of all times: MONSTER BAD AND UGLY AND EVIL KILL IT KILL IT I AM VERY HEROIC grillman

[-] SorosFootSoldier@hexbear.net 19 points 22 hours ago

I bet I could take Frankenstein. He'd be crying because he was woke and respects women and I'd fucking punch him so hard, probably kill him.

[-] AnarchoBolshevik@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 10 hours ago

All that I once loved lies in a shallow grave.

[-] UlyssesT@hexbear.net 18 points 22 hours ago

As long as you're cool, calm, and collected you can just evade and hit weak points. smuglord

[-] buh@hexbear.net 14 points 22 hours ago

They didn’t have BJJ when Frankenstein was invented, I bet I could get him in a chokehold

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