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[-] ITGuyLevi@programming.dev 13 points 2 hours ago

Is it invisible to accessibility options as well? Like if I need a computer to tell me what the assignment is, will it tell me to do the thing that will make you think I cheated?

[-] Sauerkraut@discuss.tchncs.de 10 points 2 hours ago

Disability accomodation requests are sent to the professor at the beginning of each semester so he would know which students use accessibility tools

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 0 points 1 hour ago

Ok but will those students also be deceived?

[-] coriza@lemmy.world 1 points 15 minutes ago

The way this watermarks are usually done is to put like white text on white background so for a visually impaired person the text2speak would read it just fine. I think depending on the word processor you probably can mark text to use with or without accessibility tools, but even in this case I don't know how a student copy-paste from one place to the other, if he just retype what he is listen then it would not affect. The whole thing works on the assumption on the student selecting all the text without paying much attention, maybe with a swoop of the mouse or Ctrl-a the text, because the selection highlight will show an invisible text being select. Or... If you can upload the whole PDF/doc file them it is different. I am not sure how chatGPT accepts inputs.

[-] underwire212@lemm.ee 1 points 1 hour ago

I mean it’s possible yeah. But the point is that the professor should know this and, hopefully, modify the instructions for those with this specific accommodation.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 37 points 7 hours ago

I wish more teachers and academics would do this, because I"m seeing too many cases of "That one student I pegged as not so bright because my class is in the morning and they're a night person, has just turned in competent work. They've gotta be using ChatGPT, time to report them for plagurism. So glad that we expell more cheaters than ever!" and similar stories.

Even heard of a guy who proved he wasn't cheating, but was still reported anyway simply because the teacher didn't want to look "foolish" for making the accusation in the first place.

[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

This is invisible on paper but readable if uploaded to chatGPT.

This sounds fake. It seems like only the most careless students wouldn't notice this "hidden" prompt or the quote from the dog.

Maybe if homework can be done by statistics, then it's not worth doing.

Maybe if a "teacher" has to trick their students in order to enforce pointless manual labor, then it's not worth doing.

Schools are not about education but about privilege, filtering, indoctrination, control, etc.

[-] thebestaquaman@lemmy.world 18 points 1 hour ago

The whole "maybe if the homework can be done by a machine then its not worth doing" thing is such a gross misunderstanding. Students need to learn how the simple things work in order to be able to learn the more complex things later on. If you want people that are capable of solving problems the machine can't do, you first have to teach them the things the machine can in fact do.

In practice, compute analytical derivatives or do mildly complicated addition by hand. We have automatic differentiation and computers for those things. But I having learned how to do those things has been absolutely critical for me to build the foundation I needed in order to be able to solve complex problems that an AI is far from being able to solve.

[-] TheRealKuni@lemmy.world 6 points 1 hour ago

Maybe if homework can be done by statistics, then it's not worth doing.

Lots of homework can be done by computers in many ways. That’s not the point. Teachers don’t have students write papers to edify the teacher or to bring new insights into the world, they do it to teach students how to research, combine concepts, organize their thoughts, weed out misinformation, and generate new ideas from other concepts.

These are lessons worth learning regardless of whether ChatGPT can write a paper.

[-] Smith6826@sopuli.xyz 1 points 29 minutes ago

All it takes is a student to proofread their paper to make sure it's not complete nonsense. The bare minimum a cheating student should do.

[-] Navarian@lemm.ee 54 points 9 hours ago

For those that didn't see the rest of this tweet, Frankie Hawkes is in fact a dog. A pretty cute dog, for what it's worth.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 36 points 9 hours ago

Ah yes, pollute the prompt. Nice. Reminds me of how artists are starting to embed data and metadata in their pieces that fuck up AI training data.

[-] lepinkainen@lemmy.world 18 points 4 hours ago

And all maps have fake streets in them so you can tell when someone copied it

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