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[-] CurlyWurlies4All@slrpnk.net 72 points 6 days ago

You got to love this. The Pentagon just failed its 7th audit in a row. It has a budget of $1tr. And yet the cost savings team decides that penny pinching by making life harder for workers is where the real savings are to be found. Not the giant black hole of finance which is the military industrial complex.

[-] Yokozuna@lemmy.world 27 points 6 days ago

Noooo shhhhh, we're not supposed to talk about HOW THE PENTAGON HAS NEVER PASSED AN AUDIT. We're supposed to be talking about the border, come on people, get it together.

[-] tiefling@lemmy.blahaj.zone 8 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

You've gotta look at it from the perspective of a poor multibillionaire who desperately needs to buy his fifth superyatch so he can work his five CEO jobs remotely

[-] Zugyuk@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Lol, how fast would he get merked for suggesting we cut Pentagon budget

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 4 points 6 days ago

How is working in the office saving the pentagon money?

[-] WatDabney@sopuli.xyz 59 points 6 days ago

Saying the quiet part out loud again.

They believe that us not being forced to do what they want simply because they want it is a "privilege," and one that they can and will just arbitrarily decree to be null and void.

That says pretty much everything you meed to know about what they really think about everyone other than themselves.

And ironically enough, what they think is that they themselves are privileged.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 28 points 6 days ago

But there's literally no reason to end that if staying home still gets work done

[-] Deway@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago

It doesn't give the same feeling of power to the people in charge if they don't see the ~~drones~~ workers sweat.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 7 points 6 days ago

Yup. It's all about that sense of control. That's what they're paying for. I saw a quote from a survey of execuitives: "I don't know if my employees are walking their dogs for 4 hours per day when they're working from home, but I know they can't walk their dog when they're in the office".

Keep in mind, business execuitives are known to believe shit like, "when I go to the gym, that's work, because I need to be healthy for the business".

They believe they own us. They believe they deserve to.

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[-] octopus_ink@lemmy.ml 4 points 6 days ago

Office real estate.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/adigaskell/2023/03/05/how-remote-work-has-affected-real-estate-values/

This has had an understandable impact on office values, which fell considerably and remain below 2019. The author believes these valuations will remain below those levels for the next decade.

Simulations of office values, that took into account remote work rates, show that the value of all NYC office properties dropped by more than 40% in 2020. Predictions for 10 years after the shift to working from home suggest that office values in 2029 will remain an average of 39% lower than they were in 2019.

[-] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 31 points 6 days ago

The asswipes, Elon and Vivek, own several empty office buildings.

[-] OldWoodFrame@lemm.ee 39 points 6 days ago

So they'll be coming in every day to their offices in Washington right?

...right?

[-] Suburbanl3g3nd@lemmings.world 14 points 6 days ago

It's interesting they have multiple offices. Offices they're already not in. If there was a time for a general strike it is forever ago.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 32 points 6 days ago
[-] Krauerking@lemy.lol 5 points 6 days ago

Please!
But oh no here come the liberals again to tell us how that would hurt the economy and people need to be able to buy stuff. And that this just still isn't the right time to make a big fuss.

[-] Gerprimus@feddit.org 23 points 6 days ago

How many days do you think it will take until he calls for unions to be declared illegal?

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Depends how much Musks's companies try to unionize.

[-] Srh@lemmy.world 5 points 5 days ago

He is already arguing the NLRB is unconstitutional.

[-] evergreen@lemmy.world 33 points 6 days ago

Guy who sells cars wants people to need cars.

[-] humanspiral@lemmy.ca 29 points 6 days ago

I liked the meme posted a month ago...

"Great. I get to delete my work email and collaboration apps from my phone"

Musk made a rant last year interview that "It is immoral for you to work from home if people building your car, or delivering your food cannot". As an employer, you have the option to pay more for extra expenses/time involved in coming to office if that is super important to you.

[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 24 points 6 days ago

I'm not going to take lessons in morality from Mr. I-Promote-Nazis-On-My-Website

[-] ameancow@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

I don't think we should ever listen to moral opinions from ANYONE who has dedicated their lives to skimming as much money as possible off other people's hard work, and not just a few people but millions and millions. They are whatever the capitalist, economic version of a serial killer is.

[-] dogslayeggs@lemmy.world 7 points 6 days ago

Nah, I don't agree with paying people more to come into the office. Working at home has costs for me that the company doesn't compensate me for, plus it saves the company money in infrastructure and resources. If you get paid more to come into the office, I want to be paid more for my electricity, plus the desk and chair and monitor and the space in my house for them.

[-] michaelmrose@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

The average commute commutes 30 minutes each way, traveling an average of 15 miles, for a total time cost of 250 hours for a job wherein you are paid for 2080 hours of work.

The cost per vehicle mile is now about $0.72 including all costs. The average commuter traveling 15 miles one way will burn $5,400 commuting. Man then there is the cost of childcare. For instance maybe your kid gets home at 4P and you get off at 5P. If you commute you'll be back and 5:30 and you have to find a solution. One solution is one partner arrange to be off but that has its own cost. If you want to itemize the cost of having someone pick up and watch your kid its about $15-20 an hour 180 days * 2 hours or so. So up to $7000. This is not even counting the times that kids have the day off from school but mom and dad don't or times a kid is sick.

That is to say you commit 12% more unpaid work + commuting costs for the privilege of being there in person. If the median worker earns about 60,000 they are incurring as much as $20,000 in costs in both time, transportation, and childcare.

Compare that to the cost of running the company laptop 40 hours a week 50 weeks a year is about $10. A home office can be had for $1000 ever. As far as the space I have one which I've worked out of in my tiny studio come on man. Are you really shocked that you have to pay someone more to come in?

Hell we haven't even talked about the cost of living in the expensive places companies like to situate themselves vs the surrounding oft cheaper areas!

https://www.care.com/c/after-school-transportation-for-kids-cost/ https://data.bts.gov/stories/s/Transportation-Economic-Trends-Transportation-Spen/bzt6-t8cd/ https://www.census.gov/newsroom/press-releases/2021/one-way-travel-time-to-work-rises.html

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 5 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Before Trump’s tax “cuts” you could deduct home office expenses from your income on your taxes. Any improvements or utilities just for the office area were 100% deductible, and a certain percentage of household expenses based on the square footage of your home and office.

[-] frezik@midwest.social 4 points 6 days ago

Specifically, you don't qualify for those cuts if you're a W2 employee. You can if you're a 1040. Because of the way Covid worked out, that ended up meaning a whole lot of people got chopped off from a tax cut they otherwise would have had.

I had been working from home before Covid as a W2. The credit wasn't big; it amounted to a few hundred bucks for the year. But it's not nothing, and I always remember it when MAGA says Trump cut your taxes.

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[-] Itdidnttrickledown@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago

Back to the grind slaves. /S

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Why the /s? They're not being sarcastic and you're just quoting them.

[-] WhyFlip@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

"iT's Up To ThE sTaTes!!!1!"

[-] greenfish@lemmy.world 14 points 6 days ago

I contract for uscis. It's fully distributed, there's no way to enforce this without crippling the agency. So it would hobble the mass deportation plan. Very curious how this might turn out

[-] pelican7663@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago

Since they're both just mouthing off about things they have zero understanding of, based on an over-inflated sense of their own knowledge and competence, this will probably turn out about like most things Trump has tried to do. It'll either go nowhere and they'll just stop speaking of it, or they'll try to force something through and make a mess that someone else will have to clean up.

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[-] technocrit@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 6 days ago

Imagine owning the libs by spending your whole life trapped in an office serving capital.

[-] limelight79@lemm.ee 9 points 6 days ago

Ha ha, joke's on them. Our office doesn't have space for all of us. We downsized to ..gasp.. save money, which is what the federal government is supposed to do. They'd also have to renegotiate the union contract, something they just finished doing, so it's not something they really even can address for several years at least.

But Biden isn't squeaky clean on this either, he mandated some percentage of office space being utilized. Supposedly this was to help local businesses, like the fast food chicken place across the street that has survived without us there for almost 5 years now. (They were renovating our building and had us all move out during the pandemic.)

But there's something wrong with the formula being used to calculate utilization of the building - and in our case, even if every cube was full every day, we still wouldn't meet the requirement, because of how it's calculated. I don't have details, but it apparently includes space people can't occupy - like server rooms and the cafeteria - and there's no way to get an exception.

I'm pretty sure upper management would continue the telework setup if they could (I really think they intended to be primarily remote before the Biden administration put the brakes on it). But higher authorities have said no. Our current telework agreement is that we have to go into the office twice per pay period (two weeks), which isn't too bad, but I'd still prefer not. My return to office is scheduled for February. We're bracing for a lot of people to find other jobs or retire, and it has already begun.

I'm hoping to retire in about 7 years. Maybe this next administration will buy me out. I'd be open to a generous severance package.

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[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 7 points 6 days ago

Get a government job they said, it’s super safe and secure they said.

[-] bitwolf@sh.itjust.works 4 points 6 days ago

Lol they're not going to get top talent unless they raise pay

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