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submitted 3 days ago by streetfestival@lemmy.ca to c/canada@lemmy.ca

Great article, highly recommended reading. Bold in excerpts mine.

As governments across Europe and the United States have been taken over by far-right parties, it becomes increasingly clear that centrist and progressive politics have failed to address the expanding inequality of the last four decades. This inequality has been effectively documented by scholars, including Thomas Piketty and Mark Blyth.

Here in Canada, the governing Liberals and New Democratic Party continue to tinker around the edges of inequality. This was alluded to by Freeland in her resignation letter. All the while, the Liberal brass fail to recognize what voters really need are new financial approaches that will stem the tide of the movement of wealth upward.

During the last decade, however, centrists and progressives alike continually fail to grasp that many voters have reached the point of ‘anything must be better than this.’

With all due respect to Trudeau and NDP Leader Jagmeet Singh, they have been fiddling while Rome burns. Canada is home to some of the worst corporate concentration in the world in the food sector. Little to nothing has been done to address this.

Housing costs have become untenable due to poorly planned immigration policies, designed to give the corporate world access to a cheap army of reserve labour. Voters of all stripes and demographics feel this in their pocketbooks and when they cannot sleep at night.

The far-right is happily engaging in populism. The closest thing we’ve seen to a real left-wing economic populism on the North American continent has been Bernie Sanders. Notably, the Vermont Senator's candidacy was stamped out by the Democratic Party establishment in the United States.

In 2024, American Democrats actually ran on being the party of democracy while failing to hold a real presidential primary. Kamala Harris then proceeded to seek Republican endorsements, rather than address the concerns of the Democrats’ historical working-class base.

It is no longer sufficient to blame these problems on global conditions. Frankly, to do so looks weak at a time when voters are looking for bold moves. Getting there will require politicians who are willing to draw their power from working- and middle-class voters, rather than corporate donors. It is no longer enough for Liberal politicians to just say they are for Canada’s middle class and those working hard to join it.

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[-] danielquinn@lemmy.ca 36 points 3 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

During the last decade, however, centrists and progressives alike continually fail to grasp that many voters have reached the point of ‘anything must be better than this.’

Holy fuck this is it.

This is how you elect fascists:

  1. Claim that as the progressive option, only you can fix these problems.
  2. Offer only token non-fixes, all while claiming the right would make it worse.

Once you've demonstrated that you can't be trusted, the public start to think: "Maybe the right isn't all that bad. It can't get much worse than this."

The only way to avoid fascism is to actually help the public. Gaslighting them into thinking that you're solving problems you refuse to solve only works for so long.

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 9 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Once you've demonstrated that you can't be trusted, the public start to think: "Maybe the right isn't all that bad. It can't get much worse than this."

You failed to include the next step. Once those right-wing populists get elected, the electorate discovers that things can indeed get much worse than this.

[-] fourish@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Once you've demonstrated that you can't be trusted, the public start to think: "Maybe the right isn't all that bad. It can't get much worse than this."

Only for people with short memories or no education.

Lots of far right are all about “fuck you, where’s mine?” And would happily screw over everyone solely to benefit themselves.

And then they want to elect precisely those types of people somehow not getting that once elected, they’ll be doing the same thing to everyone while in power (not just “other party” people).

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 42 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it becomes increasingly clear that centrist and progressive politics have failed to address the expanding inequality of the last four decades

The last four decades were decades of "centrist and progressive politics"? The same decades where minimum wage stagnated, worker rights got slowly eroded, public services slowly chipped away? All those years where building housing for Canadians was neglected to the point home prices almost quadrupled and this recent immigration wave became too much (if you think immigration is bad now, just wait for a couple more decades of global warming)? These were progressive?!

The right's propaganda is indeed working fucking great if that's our takeaway of the last couple or decades. The US Raegan era marked the beginning of turning back on decades of social policies on a global scale, yet the blame falls on the same policies we've been slowly suffocating. Insane.

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

I think a charitable way to understand the author is to consider they're referring to self-described or socially described centrist and progressive politicians and their policies. And that those aren't actually progressive.

But I think that you're right in that the fact there's such a divergence between what is labeled as progressive and what it actually is, is likely a result of the right wing, neolib propaganda we've been showered with for decades.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

I work in the construction industry. There has been plenty of housing construction. Speculation/flipping is what drove prices up. It's a problem 40 years in the making.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 20 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

Plenty of construction doesn't mean plenty of the construction we needed. How much of it was condos nobody can afford in city centers? How much public housing was built in those same decades, as compared to previously? How many starter homes?

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

A majority of it is unaffordable, because like I said, we are in a problem created by over 40 years of out of control flipping/speculation and property hording by the ultra wealthy. It's going to take A LONG time to solve the problem -- PP and the CPC certainly have no interest in doing it.

[-] mister_newbie@sh.itjust.works 3 points 2 days ago

PP and the CPC certainly have no interest in doing it.

Louder, so those in the back can hear you.

[-] Kichae@lemmy.ca 1 points 3 days ago

That's markets in action. Housing being a market means that it responds to whoever is feeding money into it, and those tend to be people who want to get that money (and more) back out of the market again, not those who are interested in solving things like "housing problems".

[-] GreyEyedGhost@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago

Two other things happened over the last 40 years. Government housing programs were massively scaled back, and our population went from 24.5M to 39.1M.

We may be building a lot of housing, but we aren't building enough.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 2 points 2 days ago

It's shameful that Con Premiers are standing in the way of very good programs.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I agree with you, and I think the author of the article would as well. I think you might be misinterpreting the sentence based on my imperfect excerpting. Expansion of inequality is tied to the Reagan era and neoliberal policies; also, centrist and progressive politics have failed to address these effects more recently.

[-] folkrav@lemmy.ca 17 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

centrist and progressive politics have failed to address these effects more recently

I'm more criticizing the very idea that we ever put a remotely progressive government in power in that time period. We've been alternating between centrist liberalism and conservatist neoliberalism that whole time. What are we expecting out of this, exactly?

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago
[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 days ago

The NDP proposed a wealth tax in the House of Commons, while the Liberals worked with the CPC to vote it down.

And yet when Canadian want change, they vote conservative.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 1 points 10 hours ago

The NDP's public stance flipflops too much. I think they are the better option at the moment but most people I know see the NDP as the hangers on/me-to liberal party.

[-] Grandwolf319@sh.itjust.works 1 points 10 hours ago

NDP shouldn’t be the be all end all solution to Canadian politics. Voting for NDP moves the conversation left. If we had a couple of NDP wins, then we could talk about leftist policies more openly and even would inspire new parties further left than NDP.

Imo voting is about voting for a direction, not a perfect solution.

[-] nik282000@lemmy.ca 1 points 9 hours ago

Thanks to 30 years of brain rot and American influence people want things fixed THIS election.

[-] randoot@lemmy.world 33 points 3 days ago

Expecting fascism to solve inequality is like expecting a boulder to help you swim. I'm curious how many people actually just want society to essentially collapse because they feel left out. That's where we're kinda headed.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 12 points 3 days ago

Agreed. And I think not seeing any major political party earnestly working for everyday people, versus corporate overlords, is a key ingredient to that hopelessness, carelessness, and nihilism/accelerationism

[-] kbal@fedia.io 6 points 3 days ago

The NDP is pretty earnest, they're just not very effective.

[-] ImplyingImplications@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

People who vote for fascists don't believe it will solve inequality. They believe it will make them the benefactors of inequality. They don't want to get rid of societal hierarchy, but to be placed closer to the top.

[-] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago

Expecting fascism to solve inequality

Nobody expects the far-right to solve inequality.

When you think about it, Conservative governments are about what can be TAKEN from people, not what can be GIVEN to them.

The right to marriage equality, a woman's choice to dictate her own reproductive future, disability rights, environmental protection, transportation accessibility, etc.

None of those issues are championed by the far-right, but they certainly are fought to be restricted or taken away.

We are so, so fucked if both Canada and the US have far-right governments in power for the foreseeable future. We will not recover from it.

[-] fourish@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

I’m convinced that a large portion of them actively want the world to burn because they don’t care and want to sit on the sidelines watching reality TV.

Really wish that in order to vote you need to log a certain number of volunteer hours per year to thin out the selfish pricks.

[-] z3rOR0ne@lemmy.ml 14 points 3 days ago

I just wish the media would start calling it what it is. Far-Right isn't the right term. Fascism is. And that has what has come to roost in the seats of power across the globe.

[-] Grant_M@lemmy.ca 11 points 3 days ago

We are under attack by a global RW fascist insurgency

[-] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 8 points 3 days ago

Becuase Canada had a such a good run under Justin

This is a class war jfc

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 13 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

This is a class war jfc

Totally. I think we need to coin a "war on the working classes" that will be useful in the messaging of what we expect from progressive governments. Because wealth inequality is at an all-time high and showing no signs of stopping and "war on X" language has historically been effective at getting people to recognize and understand structural issues

[-] avidamoeba@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

Would be nice if we can collapse "working classes" into a single "working class" in the minds of people but I realize that's probably not realistic from the get to as it requires some discussion to convey and we need short slogans instead.

[-] streetfestival@lemmy.ca 4 points 3 days ago

I agree I think that's a bit optimistic after decades of anti- (democratic) socialism and pro neoliberalism propaganda. Off the top of my head, I like working classes (plural) for inclusivity, solidarity, and clarity. I would hope that someone with some investments that still works paid employment for their income realizes that they have far more in common with the more narrowly defined working class than they do the oligarch class that's bent on stealing our social services and driving political narratives

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