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[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 82 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (8 children)

Joe Rogan is one example. He was a Bernie supporter and is quite liberal, but he failed the purity tests by having a wide range of guests on his show, and then later around Covid vaccines and his criticism of "woke" so he was cast out of the progressive coalition, to that coalitions own injury in my opinion.

Smartest liberal

Have you perhaps considered that the distrust in our institutions was also caused by propaganda, and that in general they are run by good people who do a decent job?

I stand corrected, an even smarter liberal

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 63 points 2 months ago (3 children)

An aside: economists don't usually use the word 'capitalism' because it has no set definition, to the point of being meaningless.

lmao

[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

On a level plain, simple mounds look like hills; and the insipid flatness of our present bourgeoisie is to be measured by the altitude of its great intellects.

[–] Kuori@hexbear.net 16 points 2 months ago

reading this caused what i hope is a fatal brain bleed

[–] came_apart_at_Kmart@hexbear.net 54 points 2 months ago

I have only ever considered that our institutions are good and that critiques of them are the product of enemy propaganda, because my mind is extremely powerful and I operate it with wisdom and intelligence. Have you ever considered that I am right and it is you who are the one that is wrong?

[–] M68040@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Was Rogan ever “in” the “coalition”? all the people I knew were indifferent at best. Just kind of a “not the target demographic” thing.

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago

Absolutely not lmao. He was a gullible libertarian dipshit who platformed fascists.

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 35 points 2 months ago

These people need to drink some raw water for a few months and then see if they still whine so much about purity tests.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Remember when Joe Rogan was part of the "progressive coalition"???... No, i don't remember either

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 11 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

I remember when certain people I knew mistook Joe Rogan as part of the coalition, as opposed to a platform of convenience since Bernie was literally being denied airtime on every other mainstream platform.

But then again, I though Bernard was a serious progressive politician at that time, and not another hack in a suit.

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[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (4 children)

they're also getting mad about the same thing on the .world latestagecapitalism

I almost never seen any moderates being called a Tankie. Only when they end up making apologies for said examples, or more recently for various terrorist groups like hamas. Granted, I’m just left leaning and stay out of economic philosophies but I’ve clashed a lot in political topics with the definitely Tankie heavy user base on here.

.world famously a tankie haven now

[–] GrosMichel@hexbear.net 69 points 2 months ago (1 children)

[I] . . . stay out of economic philosophies

i.e. I'm socially liberal, fiscally conservative.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 18 points 2 months ago

Socially okay with weed/some lgb not necessarily t - just keep it out of my face, fiscally incoherent

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Watching .world eat itself is pretty funny lol

[–] Diva@lemmy.ml 64 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It did not take long for them to go from obsessing about external enemies to internal purification. Nobody could have seen this coming.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 66 points 2 months ago (1 children)

In witch-hunting leftists they turned towards themselves, and when the views they nominally agree with are suddenly targeted by the fascists they safeguard and harbor, theoryless liberals get further and further confused and don't know what to do, so they join in the lashing.

It's always funny that a vague quote from Marx can get thousands of upvotes on .world but the second someone defends Marxism, everyone there brings out the pitchforks.

[–] SacredExcrement@hexbear.net 33 points 2 months ago (1 children)

"How did my anti communism get fascism in it AGAIN"

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

The "left" liberals always get caught in the net of western chauvanism during their radicalization process and thus cannot comprehend the world around them. Nothing makes sense, everything is chaos, and this will continue until they manage to read theory or join a principled org.

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

https://lemmy.ml/post/24321485/15861821

Also, if your moderator is rejecting Wikipedia links as “propaganda” then they have no business being a moderator. Wikipedia is one of the last, best sources of information on the Internet that isn’t biased, corporate-sponsored bullsh*t. Those mods are either UP TO something or have been bonked on the head.

Pictured: a person who has never read the Talk page on any current event connected to an official state enemy of the American government (alternatively: a liar)

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 44 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Wikipedia is one of the last, best sources, which is why every teacher has ruled it an invalid source for like 20 years

[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

yells-at-cloud Back in my day we had to reference the curated time capsule of the ancients with our own Encyclopedia Britannica!

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago

To doom abit, they have stopped doing that in poorer school districts. Most of the time they are happy if the student cites anything at all, let along distinguish between primary and secondary sources. Those kids tend to be in for a shock if they make it to college and it is no longer an acceptable source for academia.

[–] BurgerPunk@hexbear.net 31 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I’m just left leaning and stay out of economic philosophies

Westoid libs political illiteracy never ceases to amaze me

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[–] NewDark@hexbear.net 60 points 2 months ago (3 children)

If I read "tankie" one more time I'm gonna fucking McLoseit

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

Ba Da Ba Ba Ba! I'm LOSING IT!!

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[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 56 points 2 months ago (4 children)

https://imgur.com/a/1WV5W1o

uhm what the fuck? Just going to pause here, because you all seem to be affixed to redditor reactions, and not the fact that a massive subreddit is rightfully banning anti-China speech for being anti-socialist…

What the fuck is going on?

[–] barrbaric@hexbear.net 46 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

Could be the mods have continued moving left? Consider that Hexbear now is a drastically different place from /r/cth 6 years ago. That or a takeover by the evil tankie mod cabal.

[–] BelieveRevolt@hexbear.net 37 points 2 months ago

Pretty sure the mods have changed several times over the last few years, LSC was definitely lib as hell right after CTH was banned.

[–] GrosMichel@hexbear.net 36 points 2 months ago

Possibly "moved left" solely because the tidal waves of anti-china posts on Reddit become obviously racist when you see it long enough.

[–] jack@hexbear.net 26 points 2 months ago (2 children)

LSC has been this way literally forever

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I used to browse LSC all the time and I quit specifically because of a socdem mod coup (this term sounds so dramatic but I'm not sure what else you could call it to express that it's a petty thing and not like, equivalent to a state being overthrown).

This was way back when, like, pre-Biden presidency. A quick search on Reddit shows a thread on r socialism with people complaining about it. IIRC you'd get banned for openly supporting China around that time.

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 19 points 2 months ago (1 children)

‘What are you talking about? r/politics has always been Marxist Leninist’

[–] Lussy@hexbear.net 29 points 2 months ago

It literally hasn’t, i bet I can pull out comments from Hexbear decrying its lib apologia

[–] RedWizard@hexbear.net 13 points 2 months ago (1 children)

You got banned for this this week?

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[–] quarrk@hexbear.net 50 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Liberals complain about how tankies don’t tolerate a plurality of views, but get real vague when you ask them specifically what views they want you to tolerate.

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[–] Evilphd666@hexbear.net 43 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Is the Red Scare not taught in schools or something anymore?

Maybe left leaning or adjacent subs are a bit more aware of Red Scares and aren't having it? It's something I see rarely mentioned.

[–] THEPH0NECOMPANY@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago

It's probably different depending on where you were raised, but I was raised in a "liberal" area and they basically just didn't cover anything that made the US look bad at all. So that meant very little cold war history. I think there was like 1 chapter on Vietnam that was basically just oh we pulled a whoopsy.

[–] Cowbee@hexbear.net 25 points 2 months ago (3 children)

It's taught in a manner that makes it seem like the student is now immune to a bad thing done in the past and that now everyone knows the truth, not as an ongoing process.

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[–] GenXen@hexbear.net 41 points 2 months ago (3 children)

user/Djamalfna:

Ideological Leftists generally do not consider themselves "Liberals". In fact they're pretty clear that they consider "Liberals" the enemy, despite Leftism being a branch of Liberalism (The "Worker" can't be free until everyone has Civil Rights, The "Worker" can't even organize or write Leftist Philosophy without Liberalism existing). Modern Leftism is a confusing mixture of state-pushed (read: CN/RU) propaganda and ideologies that make no sense in the real world.

very-intelligent

[–] ShimmeringKoi@hexbear.net 24 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Okay, so then liberalism is a version of feudalism and leftists should be defenstrating these people in the name of free trade

[–] TreadOnMe@hexbear.net 21 points 2 months ago

Oh I do love it when liberals forget their own history.

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[–] blame@hexbear.net 40 points 2 months ago

Redditors are so used to being able to complain to the manager. Friends, welcome to the world of message boards where people run things in ways you don't like and you have zero recourse because they own the servers. The fact that Hexbear is as democratic as it is is frankly pretty unique.

[–] JustSo@hexbear.net 32 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

Why do my fellow whiteoids have such a hard time imagining that some of us just genuinely think China is (on the whole) cool and good?

Like, my privilege is showing but I've been to China and it's sick as hell, the people are awesome, culture is rich, history is deep and it's easily the wealthiest AES nation on the planet. No shade to Vietnam and Laos n them but China was a whole other level of "WOAH THEY REALLY FUCKIN DID IT." Meanwhile the west is in shambles and are mad that they offshored their own industry? WE TOLD YOU SO, FUCKHEADS. WE TOLD YOU SO FOR A HUNDRED FUCKING YEARS.

AND AND AND

Since then China has gone global with their influence and wealth and are helping shore up heaps of small nation states that would otherwise be easily crushed and exploited by the existing failing hegemon fuck THAT. NO. CHINA: NUMBER ONE.

[–] sewer_rat_420@hexbear.net 27 points 2 months ago

The lib in my group chat got mad about being autobanned from there for having the perfectly reasonable take that everyone is evil if they dont vote for kamala

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