This list seems a bit flawed, for instance on the travel line, Trivago is owned by Expedia in the US and Booking is headquartered in Amsterdam.
Also including BlueSky seems a little odd given the intent
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This list seems a bit flawed, for instance on the travel line, Trivago is owned by Expedia in the US and Booking is headquartered in Amsterdam.
Also including BlueSky seems a little odd given the intent
Re Bluesky I did some "I am not a lawyer" digging.
Bluesky is owned by "Bluesky Social PBC", a Public Benefit Company registered in Delaware.
Generally speaking it means when decisions about the company are made, they must take into account how that decision benefits their stated public value. I struggled to find the specific value wording, but let's assume it's a reasonable one for the time being.
Unfortunately being a PBC is basically voluntary, especially when you're still a private company. You can become a non-PBC with a simple board vote. (A public company would require a stockholder vote.)
Bluesky's board consists of four members, one of which is Bain Capital, aka the company funding Bluesky.
So Bluesky is absolutely a better alternative to Twitter. If everyone left Twitter and moved to Bluesky that would be a monumental improvement.
However Bluesky is not a non-profit company, as the above graphic states.
Bluesky has to be running a massive propaganda push. I see so many lies saying they are decentralized or like here saying they are a non-profit.
This shit is evil. Whoever is making these fliers is not being honest.
This is misinformation. BlueSky is not a non profit. It is a public benefit company. The shareholders still expect profit.
And for software like Microsoft and Adobe:
Some more recommendations
Category | FOSS |
---|---|
Media player | mpv |
Drawing | Krita |
Vectorial illustration | Inkscape |
Video editing | Kdenlive |
Music making | Ardour |
Look, I love Audacity which is an awesome audio editor but it is absolutely not an alternative to Logic or Fl, which are DAWs.
There are so many issues with this, lots of wrong information, recommendations of stuff that's bad and really shouldn't be recommended and stuff that really should be there isn't. Please don't share it this further, it's absolutely shit.
"Perfect is the enemy of good. Please accept this slop."
Pretty ironic that the website that created this, buy-european-made.eu, is actually promoting their Reddit community. They should really switch to an EU-hosted Lemmy instance, and also join Mastodon, just like european-alternatives.eu: @european_alternatives@mastodon.social
Also: avoid AKG, consider Austrian Audio.
AKG is a popular brand in professional music and audiophile circles. It was bought by Samsung in 2016, who promptly drove the company into the ground, closed their Austrian facilities, and moved headquarters to America and production to SE-Asia. AKG's name is now used for brand recognition on Samsung's generic big tech garbage. Yes, I'm still salty about it.
Austrian Audio was founded by the actual engineers who worked at AKG, currently owned by a Danish audio tech company. They produce high-end professional headphones.
Sennheiser and beyerdynamic are also big competitors in the hi-fi market. Both are German.
How can you make appliances list without Miele?
If you are in the market for a vacuum cleaner do yourself a favor, go more expensive and get a Miele, especially if you have some carpets, most vacuums can do a job on hard floors, but damn the difference of vacuuming carpets either a cheap vacuum vs my Miele is night and day.
(Don't know about the rest of their products, but they are german and a family owned business)
Completely missing are power tools and guns. So please buy Bosch, Festool, Hilti, H&K, Cz., Glock, FN.
I missed the "and guns" part of your first sentence, which made me think, "Whoa, I gotta get me a Glock power drill."
Good to know about Bosch, Festool, and Hilti, thanks for the info. My ancient Dewalt drill just started smoking, so I now know where to look.
If you want something really good get Makita from Japan. Bosch has two quality levels green is meh to good, blue is very good.
Fun fact, Hilti, a Liechtenstein company, has 34000 employees. The country itself has 40000 citizens.
You do know that RedBull is owned by a right-wing extremist in Salzburg who tries to undermine Austrian democracy with Servus TV the same way Murdoch and Springer do in Germany and elsewhere?
Consider buying Solovairs instead of Dr martens. They're basically the same, the main difference is that they are made in the UK in a factory that used to make Dr martens before they delocalized their production to Asia
This list has some issues, Booking.com is Dutch and Philips' Consumer division is just a name that whitelabels other companies products and is owned by a Chinese investment company.
Booking.com is owned by an American company though
The right hand column for โDrinksโ can just be tap water barring a few exceptions water in Europe is clean and safe as well as being delicious in some countries!
Honestly a lot of this is just good advice in general, even speaking as an American.
Also, oof that General Motors apparently isn't important enough to be worth avoiding (and that ~~Chrysler~~ Stellantis no longer counts as American).
this flyer is full of lies. It was made by someone who doesn't understand globalism or what a non-profit is.
DON'T SPREAD STUPID SH*** LIKE THAT.
What a BS honestly, I am fully anti Trump but this does not help at all. Why? Some examples:
Spond?
Spond is The Free Sports Team Management App Chosen by 1000's of Teams Worldwide!
Social media? Sports management is social media????
I would be cautious to trust an American company just because they are non-profit. We know that if they get sufficiently big they can just transition into being for profit (see OpenAi), chances are regulations regarding this won't become stronger later.
Signal being open source of course helps, but it's usually the ecosystem that people grow to rely on that keeps them in place, not the technology. Just look at how big Reddit is compared to Lemmy for a good example of that. If signal was federal that would be quite different since jumping ship would be easy.
As a American, I really do love Electrolux appliances.
Also, for headphones, beyer dynamic. Damn they make a great set of cans.
First time i see this sub on the frontpage.
You should boycott evil corporations regardless of where they are from, don't make it a nationalistic thing, some of the alternative suggested here are as much bad as their usa counterpart. You are not achieving shit by switching from nike to adidas...
??? Bluesky is an american comany what the hell are they on about
Thereโs a footnote on Bluesky and Signal that says that they are American non-profits.
Got me an AMD Tuxedo laptop and some Raspberry Pi's, and my gaming desktop is all AMD too. Fuck Intel and NVidia.
I was avoiding everything made in the States before it was cool
The snacks section could use a lot of chocolates but then again as European it's hard to find American chocolate: Milka, Ferrero Rocher, Lindt, Tony's Chocolonely, Callier... Just to name a few.
I was surprised to see Toblerone on the American side, apparently they're under an American company nowadays! TIL
Also, Logitech isn't Chinese? Huh, TIL as well
HMD could be mentioned in electronics, they're Finnish and they make smartphones. The CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese; maybe some people would want to know that. In their other phones they use Qualcomm CPUs, and Qualcomm are American.
Also there are more alternatives to American goods/services outside of Europe, e.g. goods/services from places like Japan, South Korea, Taiwan, Australia, Canada, New Zealand.
E.g. South Korean cars (Hyundai and Kia) or Taiwanese electronics (Asus, Acer, MSI).
he CPUs in some of their phones are from Unisoc who are Chinese
AFAIK you can't make a phone without some Chinese components.
Americans probably should have boycotted American products back when Europe put consumer data safeguards in and the US government refused to. Our food safety, our work life, our online data, our health care-- all driven by profit motive in the US but protected as rights in Europe.
L for Proton mention.
CEO is fascist loving boot licker
Edit: company rescinded statement Andy Ten Yen made
One note on Bosch and the European car manufacturers: They're funding the Orbรกn government among others.
I am American but don't want to be anymore
It's a shame it needed someone like Trump to actually get European alternatives more attention. They needed attention way before Trump.
Also the food and drinks alternatives are a bit odd. Many brands on the European side I don't recognize, probably because they're pretty local to whoever made this list.