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Remember when politicians said everyone should get covid to develop heard-immunity? And then we had more than one million deaths since then?

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[–] Snapz@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

RFK Jr., a man vaccinated against the measles, says your kids should get measles.

[–] rockhard@lemm.ee 7 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago) (1 children)

If I'm not mistaken parts of the SF Bay Area had measles parties like 10-15 years ago when the anti-vaxx thing was really becoming trendy. Parents would take their kids to try to get them infected. It's as stupid today as it was before. Fuck these people.

[–] TipRing@lemmy.world 7 points 1 hour ago

People who intentionally infect their children with deadly pathogens and assist in spreading disease should face criminal charges.

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 27 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago) (1 children)

What a fucking moron.

If there were only a way to introduce everyone to the virus with no risk of suffering the symptoms of the disease. Wouldn’t that be amazing?

[–] Knock_Knock_Lemmy_In@lemmy.world -5 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

We all know the scientific answer is to train the body to recognise the threat and train in advance on a less damaging dose. This is why homeopathy works.

[–] SeriousMite@lemmy.world 4 points 1 hour ago

Science ≠ Homeopathy

[–] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 7 points 6 hours ago

Homeopathy or homoeopathy is a pseudoscientific[1] system of alternative medicine.

[–] LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.de 33 points 10 hours ago
[–] TheDeadlySquid@lemm.ee 9 points 9 hours ago

Measles would be even more catastrophic.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 10 hours ago

He should be the first

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 9 hours ago

Measles is a gift from grandpa nurgle. Take it in! -RFK probably

Seriously the dude has a worm too. He serves nurgle.

[–] MTK@lemmy.world 9 points 11 hours ago

He should get it first, would be a shame if he died and it would scare people into action.

[–] Brotha_Jaufrey@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago* (last edited 15 hours ago)

Let's end drunk driving by making it legal and actually forcing everyone to drunk drive. Nobody left to drunk drive if everyone's dead

[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 22 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (1 children)

Yep, via vaccine ya fucking doofus

[–] JackFrostNCola@lemmy.world 19 points 15 hours ago

If only we could give everyone the illness, but like without all the death or lifelong damage it causes...

[–] CompactFlax@discuss.tchncs.de 112 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

What if there was a way for everyone’s body to know about measles, without actually getting measles.

That would be pretty cool huh?

[–] null_dot@lemmy.dbzer0.com 51 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

Yeah but you'd have to kind of train everyone's immune system by somehow introducing it to the virus without the person actually getting infected.

Seems impossible.

[–] Brokkr@lemmy.world 19 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

What if we did something to the virus so that it couldn't make us sick, but still made our bodies thing we were sick?

[–] varjen@lemmy.world 7 points 11 hours ago

That's just a bunch of jibber-jabber and will never work!

[–] rusticus@lemm.ee 9 points 17 hours ago

I did this way today! (am old person so needed booster).

[–] some_guy 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

This is a witch. Burn them.

[–] pdxfed@lemmy.world 3 points 14 hours ago

I got better.

[–] lectricleopard@lemmy.world 104 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

That's the opposite of combating. That's just giving up.

[–] Dagnet@lemmy.world 68 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

"If we let people starve to death, we can solve the food crysis!"

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 5 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (2 children)

FYI - "Crysis" is an intentional misspelling of the word "crisis" for the purpose of the title of a video game.

I guess they thought the Y made it cooler? I dunno, but it definitely never worked for people's names. Karyn is so much worse than Karen.

[–] xor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 2 hours ago (1 children)

karyn is much cooler than karen

[–] gofsckyourself@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

Found the Karyn

[–] emax_gomax@lemmy.world 5 points 10 hours ago

The game was developed by crytek, also behind cryengine. That's the reason for the name.

[–] Zachariah@lemmy.world 20 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

dead people don’t starve

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[–] baldingpudenda@lemmy.world 85 points 22 hours ago (3 children)

Also measles resets your immune system. Your immune system keeps records of all the crap it's fought, making it easier to fight next time. When you get measles, it's like you're a new born. So he's not only allowing ppl to die, he's making it easier for future illnesses to kill as well.

article on measles

Two studies of unvaccinated children in an Orthodox Protestant community in the Netherlands found that measles wipes out the immune system’s memory of previous illnesses, returning it to a more baby-like state, and also leaves the body less equipped to fight off new infections.

The first paper, led by Velislava Petrova, of the Wellcome Sanger Institute and Cambridge University, says measles erodes two separate lines of defence of the immune system.

To tackle previously unseen infections, the immune system relies on constantly pumping out a diverse range of immune cells – thousands of different varieties, each with slightly different receptors on their surfaces, with a collective ability to recognise almost any pathogen.

“The more diverse range of them we have, the better,” said Petrova. However, after measles, the children had a far more restricted range.

The immune system also creates long-lived memory cells, which remain permanently in circulation, allowing the body to rapidly recognise and eliminate previously encountered infections.

However, after measles, a substantial proportion of immune memory cells had disappeared from the children’s blood, in what the scientists described as “immune amnesia”. This could even mean that children who become infected with measles may need to be revaccinated for previous diseases.

[–] some_guy 15 points 17 hours ago

Holy shit is that grim.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 7 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

Wouldn't this basically reset the COVID pandemic back to where we were in 2021?

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 11 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

No.

The problem isn't people who have been vaccinated against measles, the problem is people who haven't, can't, or are otherwise immunocompromised.

Those people would have all of their immunities reset. People who don't get measels because they have the vaccination will be unaffected.

Plus the current COVID variant is quite unlike the one in 2021, and we'll all need to get vaccinated against the next surviving variant anyway. Coronaviruses suck in that way.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I... didn't say the problem was people vaccinated against measles? I'm saying unvaccinated people will have their COVID immunity reset, regardless of natural immunity from previous infections. Basically the pandemic starts over for unvaccinated people.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 3 points 10 hours ago (2 children)

Let me rephrase it. Since COVID is endemic, their immunities being reset won't matter much, and that's why we still need to get an annual vaccine.

The plus side to that is that when a virus becomes endemic its usually less severe (which it has been). This is an evolutionary thing, as the virus that propagates more if it's not killing its hosts.

[–] queermunist@lemmy.ml 2 points 6 hours ago

My understanding is that COVID hasn't simply become less severe, we've become more immune due to exposure. Our immune systems have adjusted to COVID after basically everyone has been infected or vaccinated.

[–] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 5 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I think to answer his question precisely (if I'm understanding your correctly) is that yes, it would wipe out the COVID immunity for the COVID variant that you used to be immune to. But it doesn't matter because COVID keeps mutating into new variants and the immunity to the older variant won't help you.

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[–] PhAzE@lemmy.ca 28 points 20 hours ago (1 children)
[–] ninjabard@lemmy.world 12 points 19 hours ago

The entirety of Mango Mussolini's cabinet first.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 11 points 17 hours ago (1 children)

So we're up to literally demented individuals trying to kill us all being in charge.

[–] 21Cabbage@lemmynsfw.com 7 points 16 hours ago

I fucking love this country and the fact it has nukes.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 53 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

Is it really still news that USA has gone crazy?

Sorry I asked the same on another story that was also crazy, but this one is even crazier! 🤡

[–] littlebrother@lemm.ee 17 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (1 children)

It's not crazy.

I wish people would see that, this is years of bad policy coming to light.

This isnt maliciousness or apathy. This is stupidity, while the south and midwest excel and continue this. The Republicans and those in power continue to dismantle education.

Why. Because stupidity is a force greater than evil. You can't argue with it, you can't change it, you can't reason with stupidity.

A democracy is only as good as it's continued excellence in education, learn from this Europe and be better.

[–] Buffalox@lemmy.world 2 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago)

The stupidity was always ingrained in American racial politics combined with extreme Christianity.
Leading to falsification of historic events, and denial of science especially evolution. Resulting in awful moral standards based on 2000 year old principles.
In that regard USA is more like Iran than Europe. Except Iran doesn't have the white supremacist problem. So USA may actually be worse.
How can you trust anything, when you can't trust your teachers and basic education?
Americans are stupid because the majority wants to keep it that way.

[–] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 40 points 22 hours ago

MAGAs: “Everyone should get covid”

Doctors in Huston setting up overflow field hospitals in parking lots: “For the love of fuck. Please stop.”

[–] Shameless@lemmy.world 19 points 20 hours ago

Wow so the solution is to do nothing, seems oddly convenient for a certain group of people

[–] Kyle_The_G@lemmy.world 34 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Its terrifying that the health secretary has no idea how serious measles is. Fatalities are pretty high, its not at all like the common cold.

[–] axx@slrpnk.net 22 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I think they know. I think we are realising these people are eugenicists.

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[–] Airowird@lemm.ee 19 points 22 hours ago

He should lead by example.

Maybe the entire Trump ~~closet~~ cabinet should have a measle party to show how it's done!

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