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9/6/25, Kid Starver: "You know, i'm starting to get really worried about these "Elders of Zion"."

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[–] Awoo@hexbear.net 53 points 2 days ago (5 children)

Picturing a version of reality where the UK copies the US by doing tariffs and tries to rebuild its manufacturing and industry with exactly the same tactics.

It fails miserably obviously but it would be really funny if not for the fact I have to live here.

it would be really funny if not for the fact I have to live here

Me watching Trump take a sledgehammer to the US economy

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 28 points 2 days ago (3 children)

The UK is much further progressed than the US towards reindustrializing since they’ve already impoverished their working class which is probably a prerequisite.

[–] sodium_nitride@hexbear.net 15 points 2 days ago

Maybe if you are trying to recreate 19th century factories.

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago (2 children)

than the US towards reindustrializing since they’ve already impoverished their working class which is probably a prerequisite.

Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't most of British isles natural resources already exploited after centuries?

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

There is still mining potential left. And Oil, Ferberite, the rest is mostly sand & gravel. Anglo American extracts potash in Yorkshire, I think. They could always mine coal, but like there are only 200+ coal miners left from the 690.000 in the 60s.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago

That is why they need an impoverished working class. The children yearn for the factories.

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 17 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Unlike the US, which totally doesn't have an impoverished working class? Both countries have completely povertous working classes.

[–] kittin@hexbear.net 9 points 2 days ago (1 children)

The US is on the path to be sure but the British are more impoverished. That’s not praise of the US, the British are more progressed.

The US has more extreme poverty but at that point it’s not even useful. It’s hard to put chronically homeless people with an array of health problems acquired from living outside to work in a factory.

The class of people capable of working in factories are more impoverished in the UK though.

[–] Wolfman86@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I feel like there are things we could do, like invest in education for one, to make it work. But applying tariffs and doing fuck all else is just gonna tank our economy too.

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

This means he'll roll back some of the public utilities that were sold off to foreign investors and stop prostrating before tech investors aiming to turn the UK into a techno serf state right? clueless

[–] Wolfman86@hexbear.net 24 points 2 days ago (1 children)

100%. He was a socialist all along he just had to lie to people for a bit. His dad was a toolmaker, he’s just like us.

[–] huf@hexbear.net 29 points 2 days ago

his dad certainly made a tool

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 13 points 2 days ago

UK imports 60% of its food, good luck with that.

[–] Biggay@hexbear.net 2 points 1 day ago

Its not failing miserably if it made someone very powerful very rich (without stepping on too many other rich people's toes)

[–] ButtBidet@hexbear.net 36 points 2 days ago (1 children)

It does feel funny that globalisation was built up by all these massive trade deals that included years of negotiation and was often signed off on by by the countries' parliaments. And then just one man, Trump, undoes all of it.

Not that I'm taking the side of the neoliberal trade agreements of the past, tho.

[–] Riffraffintheroom@hexbear.net 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Yeah I’ve been meaning to ask where we are on Great Men theory now

[–] sexywheat@hexbear.net 6 points 1 day ago

To be fair, project 2025 was written up by a very large team of people, it’s definitely not just trump.

[–] SoyViking@hexbear.net 38 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (1 children)

Keith Starmer will declare an end to globalization

anakin-padme-2 So he's going to impose stringent capital and currency controls on the city of London while using tariffs to protect jobs and grow domestic industries, right?

[–] Keld@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If kid starver decided to unilaterally close down the city of London and arrest everyone in there from one day to the next, I would in fact have to give it to him.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Second coming of Richard the Lionheart - hated London, was mindless warmonger, knew shit about economy, ruined England financially (and also made his brother to eat shit and be villain for him, does Starver even have a brother?).

[–] SkingradGuard@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago

Lmfao and how exactly did you supposedly great union control the world? Not through globalization? Pathetic weasel appealing to the worst of humanity.

[–] tim_curry@hexbear.net 39 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

The thing is no matter how hard he tries right wingers don't give a shit they will always vote Tory or have already switched to reform. He's pandering to nobody. Muh silent majority of moderates

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 31 points 2 days ago (2 children)

What does he even mean by Globalization failed?

What was the goal?

And what was the failure point? Trump saying so?

[–] Crucible@hexbear.net 25 points 2 days ago (3 children)

Funnily enough most of these neolibs used to use the saying 'no two countries with a Mcdonalds have gone to war' as their justification for why capitalist globalization is/was important to establish, but Ukraine and Russia demonstrated that was false years ago. now sir kid starver is going to blame it on Trump

[–] SootySootySoot@hexbear.net 21 points 2 days ago

The McDonalds thing was never close to true. There had been a number of inter-McDonald country wars before it was claimed in 1999, and many more since then.

[–] ThermonuclearEgg@hexbear.net 16 points 2 days ago

They still use the saying but it's replaced with "democracies" so they can define wars out of existence by declaring one of the countries wasn't a "democracy"

[–] keepcarrot@hexbear.net 14 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It wasn't even true at the time it was said, Guatemala (I think) has been invaded by the US a few years before

[–] Lemister@hexbear.net 6 points 2 days ago
[–] Philosoraptor@hexbear.net 3 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

It's only a war if Bad Country does it. When amerikkka or international-community-1international-community-2 does it, it's just a "policing action" or "limited military intervention" and doesn't count. galaxy-brain

[–] shikitohno@lemm.ee 2 points 1 day ago (1 children)

What does he even mean by Globalization failed?

Basically, we've hit the limits for being able to raise the living conditions for those living in the metropolitan powers of the colonial era, and we can no longer pretend that globalization will allow us to endlessly expand our consumption and raise quality of life with no negative consequences. At least, no negative consequences as long as we collectively ignore the fact that we've just outsourced the worst consequences of pursuing these policies to poorer countries in Latin America, Africa and Asia. As long as the sweatshops, wars over resources, crushing poverty and widespread suffering due to famine, droughts and war happened elsewhere, to other people that only get a short paragraph about their suffering from the consequences of Western economic policies, rather than having to write the "Oh, it's so sad how they're suffering horribly because of what we continue to do," articles about people living in the UK, rather than in Sudan or something, they could count on a majority of people to bury their heads in the sand and act as though everything was going swimmingly.

Now that we're hitting the reality of those consequences coming home to impact us first-hand, the jig is up and we have to break out some new type of smoke and mirrors to try and keep the populace from seeing through the lies and realizing the whole system is a worm-eaten husk that needs to be torn down before it comes down on our heads.

[–] Deadend@hexbear.net 1 points 1 day ago

But it’s Starmer. He’s a Tory at heart.

You may be right, but I think he means different still.

[–] hollowmines@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (1 children)

more and more he is giving me "UK macron" vibes

[–] Barabas@hexbear.net 26 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I wonder who this is supposed to appeal to other than doing more pathetic kowtowing to Trump.

[–] DragonBallZinn@hexbear.net 10 points 2 days ago

Britons have it in their head that “the working class” are your standard reform-voting gammons and they love their bosses more than anything.

Therefore, to appeal to “the working class” they need to be as far-right as possible because only a capitalist swine would go against the majority and openly say something like “it is bad to be racist.”

I feel like globalization has only failed because anti socialist propaganda has been too successful. If imperial core countries would actually work with china instead of constantly trying to act superior, and fearing the red menace. We’d have a shot. But oh well in the next life I guess.

But this is preaching to the choir.

[–] Coolkidbozzy@hexbear.net 4 points 1 day ago

we all saw how brexit turned out, can't wait for the UK to further impoverish itself

[–] merthyr1831@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago

He's trying SO hard