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“Avoid plastics as much as you can. Reducing your use of ultraprocessed foods can reduce the levels of the chemical exposures you come in contact with,” Trasande said. “Never put plastic containers in the microwave or dishwasher, where the heat can break down the linings so they might be absorbed more readily.”

Here are other tips to reduce exposure:

· Use unscented lotions and laundry detergents.

· Use cleaning supplies without scents.

· Use glass, stainless steel, ceramic or wood to hold and store foods.

· Buy fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables instead of canned and processed versions.

· Encourage frequent handwashing to remove chemicals from hands.

· Avoid air fresheners and all plastics labeled as No. 3, No. 6 and No. 7.

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[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 8 points 3 days ago (2 children)

What kind of containers do people use? It seems every container I find, even the glass ones, will have silicone or some other plastic lid.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 10 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

Silicone is not plastic.

The food is not stored in the lid and it’s trivial to remove the plastic lid before microwaving. I’m happy with that compromise, and am only unhappy with rabid capitalism meaning if I find one I like, it’s already been discontinued

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Silicone is not plastic.

Multiple years of chemistry class, and I never put this together. Smh...

Thank you

[–] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I reuse glass jars. Smaller ones for spices, bigger ones for cooked/portioned foods to store in the fridge, and those massive pickle jars are really good for storing dry pulses and grains as the mouth is wide enough to use a cup to scoop out portions.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I bought Quaker oats in the cardboard cylinder. I've been reusing that for years.

And then the place I get my bulk refill oats switched to plastic. I'm livid.

[–] EvilBit@lemmy.world 51 points 5 days ago (2 children)

Please don’t post AMP links.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 13 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Here: https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/29/health/phthalates-heart-disease-wellness/index.html

Funny enough, the amp version is slow for me. Main advantage google promotes, is faster loading speed.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Please explain why for the class...?

[–] MelodiousFunk@slrpnk.net 43 points 5 days ago (2 children)

AMP is a Google wrapper for otherwise separate websites. It changes the behavior and usually the contents of the page (injected ads etc.).

[–] Okokimup@lemmy.world 11 points 4 days ago

Thanks, I had no idea.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago

Thanks man

I hope you are already subscribed to some kind of eli5 communities on lemmy, but the internet in general too. They would be better off for it

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 6 points 3 days ago (3 children)

I wish there was an alternative to technical fabrics, since they are all synthetic and basically all like wearing plastic. There's simply no avoiding them, and no, merino wool, cotton, bamboo, hemp, and any other natural fabric is absolutely not the same as technical fabric. 😮‍💨

[–] dgdft@lemmy.world 5 points 3 days ago

FWIW, minimizing synthetic fabrics is great in the big picture since it’s a major source of particles that can wind up in the water and food supply, but wearing them has minimal-to-zero impact on personal health.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 3 points 3 days ago (2 children)

There’s simply no avoiding them

I've been avoiding them for 5 years now. It would be more accurate to say "It's not easy to avoid them". I don't shop at "normal" clothing stores at all anymore.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 5 points 3 days ago (2 children)

If you're an athlete, there's absolutely no way you're avoiding synthetic fabric. Jerseys are all made from synthetic fabric, for example.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

There’s always moderation. My focus so far is for my t-shirts to be cotton. Even that has been a challenge but it was something I could do

[–] superkret@feddit.org 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

If you're competing, yes obviously.
I run and cycle in cotton, linnen or wool, but I don't compete anywhere.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 3 points 3 days ago

I can't do cotton on the bike, unless it's for very short trips. Chafing, sweat retention, heat/cold, UV protection, etc. would become very problematic. 😟

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

It's expensive to not wear them.

[–] superkret@feddit.org 1 points 3 days ago

True, I can't really afford the alternatives either. Which lead to me being active in the local clothes-sharing community, and I got a sweet deal with the local tailor: I manage her website and she changes/fixes my clothes for free, and lets me look through the clothes that never got picked back up from her shop regularly.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago) (1 children)

I’d like to see more investigation /reading on laundry. My understanding is the biggest source of pollution is the manufacture, which can and should be more regulated.

However under your control, it’s the laundry that causes the most shedding. Is there a way to filter the laundry or something to minimize the impact of technical fabrics?

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 2 points 3 days ago (1 children)

I hand wash my technical fabric, then air dry. If that matters, then I'll keep doing that 😀

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Maybe. Sounds like a good compromise

[–] DarrinBrunner@lemmy.world 30 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I don't heat food in plastic anymore. I used to, though, and for a long time. I just didn't know any better.

It's nearly impossible to avoid food sold in plastic containers, I don't try.

[–] bulwark@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Same, I think we're going to look back on plastic food packages like we do with leaded gasoline.

[–] pinball_wizard@lemmy.zip 15 points 5 days ago

Same, I think we're going to look back on plastic food packages like we do with leaded gasoline.

Specifically, I'll look back with confusion, due to all the brain damage, I suppose.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 7 points 4 days ago

It’s under our control to not heat in plastic, but also to not store in plastic, such as leftovers.

It’s not sane to expect to avoid all plastic contamination, so don’t worry too much about the parts you can’t control

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 27 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (3 children)

The scare with black plastics having flame retardants ending up in cooking utensils from improper recycling. You get a similar annual dosage from off gassing household electronics.

This article might finally motivate me to spend on replacing all our plastic containers.

Also, I hope you guys circulate cabin air in your vehicles when stopped idling at traffic lights. That one might disturb you to look up. Edit: that is to say, not sucking air in from outside.

[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 7 points 4 days ago (3 children)

The scare with black plastics having flame removedants

This censoring filter sucks.

[–] sunzu2@thebrainbin.org 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)
[–] MonkderVierte@lemmy.ml 1 points 4 days ago

Yeah, is it already on join-lemmy, which one censors? If not, it should. I've read just a reddit post that beehaw does too?

[–] Microplasticbrain@lemm.ee 8 points 4 days ago

Thats fucking removeded

[–] Squizzy@lemmy.world 2 points 3 days ago

I only found this out the other day, truly not what is needed.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 5 points 4 days ago

Mine were also too old for what we knew of that possible contamination but that was a better reason for replacing them. Plastics are permanent enough that we keep them essentially forever. However they do break down. As they get older and more damaged, they are contaminating your food more. Mine were damaged and ancient, and silicone or steel is better as far as we currently know. It was time

[–] RestrictedAccount@lemmy.world -3 points 4 days ago (1 children)

That black plastic spatula stuff was debunked

This is left wing equivalent of anti vaccine nonsense

[–] Sixtyforce@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

I hadn't heard about the update since reading about it on my favourite crackpot conspiracy website, the CBC. My apologies.

My willingness to absorb new information when confronted with it is just like the people pushing anti vaccine nonsense.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 22 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

Frozen produce comes in plastic bags. 🤷‍♂️

[–] FinnFooted@lemmy.world 17 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago)

I don't have a study on this, just a degree in analytical chemistry, but the cold and lack of liquid is probably going to make the plastic more stable and less likely to leech into your food.

[–] quetzaldilla@lemmy.world 19 points 5 days ago

I think the difference is that the cans have a plastic coating inside, which is heated during the canning process.

[–] AmbiguousProps@lemmy.today 16 points 5 days ago (2 children)

I would love to avoid plastic, but it seems inevitable that I'll consume or inhale it in some way. It's probably contaminating my drugs which come in plastic, I likely breathe it in while driving, it's in a lot of clothing these days (even if I wore all cotton, people around me still would likely have it on them), and any time I eat out, something in my food will absolutely come out of plastic in some way.

We should never have allowed oil companies do this to us and our planet. It's too late now, and we'll be dealing with the consequences for generations.

[–] Ashelyn@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 4 days ago

While it's true that there's no escaping it entirely, reducing your average daily intake through means you can control is generally worthwhile, especially if there are some easy options available to you personally. It's the same with lots of unhealthy things in life; it's not all or nothing, it's a spectrum of risk.

[–] AA5B@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

While it’s inescapable, that’s not a reason to give up hope. We’ve been mostly fine so far with some plastic, but like everything else it’s the lack of moderation that will kill us. Think of it more as an exposure level, and yes you can make a difference in your life.

I believe I’ve made a difference over the last few years

  • replace teflon pans with cast iron and stainless steel
  • replace worn plastic food storage with glass
  • replace worn plastic cutting boards with bamboo
  • replace plastic utensils with silicone or stainless steel
  • replace plastic water bottles with stainless steel
  • go back to cotton for some clothing
  • greatly reduce ultraprocessed food - do more of my own cooking
  • currently getting wet because I need a new rain jacket but have been looking for one without PFOA or similar

It’s only a start, but it’s under my control, does make a difference, and doesn’t really cost much money or inconvenience. It was many small changes over years, a lot of it timed for when I needed to replace stuff anyway. If everyone did this, we’d make even bigger differences by cutting back contamination from manufacturing so much

For example chicken tenderloins are similar convenience to chicken strips, but they’re just chicken

[–] relative@lemmy.world 4 points 4 days ago

For rain jackets, I’ve been looking at replacements that you periodically treat with wax

[–] weariedfae@sh.itjust.works 7 points 4 days ago

Well, fuck me.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Buy fresh or frozen fruits and vegetables instead of canned and processed versions.

  1. So phtalates are also used in canning processes or what?

  2. Frozen fruits and vegetables often come in plastic bags. So what now?

[–] pulsewidth@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago

Canned/tin foods are often lined with plastic.

Because of course they are.

The industry has only recently finished phasing out bisphenol A (BPA) linings in their cans. No doubt phthalates will be the next damaging thing they realize they need to phase out circa 2040.

https://www.ewg.org/news-insights/news/bpa-update-tracking-canned-food-phaseout

[–] rbos@lemmy.ca 7 points 4 days ago (1 children)

The goal is less plastic. Eliminating it entirely isn't always possible but you can make incremental personal progress.

Also, every market near me sells loose vegetables and fruit, speaking personally. Bring a cloth bag.

[–] Zacryon@feddit.org 6 points 4 days ago (1 children)

every market near me sells loose vegetables and fruit, speaking personally. Bring a cloth bag.

Yes of course. But I was speaking about frozen fruits and vegs specifically. (Besides, they usually have higher nutrional quality than those from the shelf, as their degradation process is slowed early after harvest, when they're most nutritious.)

[–] gac11@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago

I think it's that canning involves plastic lined aluminum cans. If heat to pasteurize, it'll do the heat related breakdown stuff they're talking about