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Inspired by another question on this community about "the first time you drank alcohol", so I was just feeling like I'm the odd one out here.

I personally have never smoked (neither tobacco nor weed), never drank any alcohol. (Parents also don't do smoking, or drinking, or gambling so I kinda got lucky with the environment I grew up in, I guess...) Is that unusual? Gen Z btw.

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[–] 9point6@lemmy.world 35 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Yes, in short, because I like them.

For better or worse, booze is a big part of British socialising culture, so it's unusual if someone my age (mid thirties millennial) has never drank, but a couple of my mates have gone tee total in recent years.

Why do I still do it? Beers with your mates whilst enjoying a beer garden or watching the footie is a pretty enjoyable way to pass the time. I'm also a bit of a nerd with it all so I love trying new beers, there's been a huge renaissance around beer variety over the past decade-ish, so there's always something new to try. I've gotten more into wine and cocktails in recent years too, and there's a rich well of variety in there to experience too.

Smoking tobacco I generally avoid now, it's nice to have the odd one with a beer but I'll probably only have a few a year now. I regularly smoked last in my 20s. I occasionally have ended up with a vape in my pocket after a big night out, but I don't really like them much flavour wise.

Weed is something I still enjoy, it helps me clear my head, relax, and kinda be more present with whatever activity I'm engaging in, if I'm smoking with mates it can often be a pretty hilarious time. However, it's easy for me to slip into habitual use with it especially though, I don't really seem to get much in the way of acute negative effects beyond tolerance, so I try to be mindful to keep it in check these days. I'll probably try and relegate it to a treat for when I visit somewhere like Amsterdam in the coming years given the downsides of smoking (I've got a vape, but I basically never choose it).

FWIW I've heard that Gen Z is differing their consumption habits significantly from previous generations. Less drinking alcohol in general, preferring non-smokeable forms of tobacco/weed.

[–] Tywele@lemmy.dbzer0.com 21 points 9 months ago

I've never smoked and I don't ever plan to (it can lessen the effect of HRT) but I do drink alcohol occasionally. Meaning I drink maybe one cocktail or longdrink every two or three months.

[–] tipicaldik@lemmy.world 21 points 9 months ago (1 children)

There doesn't appear to be too many bad examples in here, so allow me.

I smoked cigarettes for a long time and, at 59, got to experience lung cancer. I'm currently 62 and still dealing with it. I'd probably be dead now if the mass in my lung hadn't adhered to the back of my chest cavity and eroded into one of my ribs causing a ridiculous amount of pain. Lung cancer usually goes undetected until it spreads to other places, like the brain, so I guess I got lucky. It did pop up on an adrenal gland, but we nuked that one too. I have another small mass in my other lung that will probably have to be radiated too. I'm also dealing with emphysema and a mouth half full of fucked up teeth. (So glamorous!)

Having no wind in my sails and trying to talk around and eat with both upper and lower partials just sucks all around. I'm only 62, but I feel like I'm 82, and I only have myself to blame.

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[–] aeternum@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No. I don't want cancer, so i don't smoke. I also was an alco, so I'm recovered now and don't want to go back to that. I'm sure my liver agrees with my decision.

[–] slaneesh_is_right@lemmy.org 8 points 9 months ago

I don't smoke or drink. These days, not sure if helps against cancer, since everything seems to give you cancer these days and it's just a matter of which cancer wins.

I would never smoke again because how absolutely disgusting it is. I don't think many smokers realise how rancid their breath and clothes smell. Or they just hang out with other smokers and it doesn't matter. The other part is that smokers are just littering and society just accepted that smokers don't care and they have to throw their garbage somewhere.

Drinking is similar, once you stop for a while you realise that it's not very good, and the whole culture around it is weird. I never realised how much you can weird people out by not drinking, because they have questions: why? But why tho? You can still drive after a glass. This wine is really good tho. This schnapps is very smooth. People will try to get you to drink and i thought about just telling people that i was an alcoholic, just so i don't have to explain myself all the time for something i don't do.

[–] kadaverin0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 14 points 9 months ago (3 children)

Elder millennial. I think we were the last gen where cigarettes, booze, and drugs were seen as "cool". Younger people seemed to have figured it out early how much of a fucking waste of time and money all three are.

[–] Korhaka@sopuli.xyz 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Who is drinking because they think it makes them look cool? Drinking at home isn't to impress others.

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[–] aesthelete@lemmy.world 11 points 9 months ago

I drink beer cuz look around.

[–] GreyShuck@feddit.uk 9 points 9 months ago

I'm the older end of Gen X, and have never smoked. The major factor in starting is peer pressure and I didn't have any peers around me at the critical time who did. My family didn't either.

I seldom drink alcohol and then I have only ever enjoyed cider - not beer, wine or spirits. This is just a matter of the taste for me. I simply don't like it.

As a kid, I had had grape juice and I had heard adults enthusing about wine as usual and I had a idea what it must taste like.

If you imagine a taste/mouthfeel spectrum with wine at one end and grape juice in the middle, what I imagined wine to taste like was pretty much at the opposite end of that spectrum to what it actually tastes like. I had one mouthful and had no desire for any more at all. I have obviously tried wine and the rest at various times since, but my opinion is basically the same.

With cider, I'll seldom have more that a pint or two a month these days.

[–] bent@feddit.dk 8 points 9 months ago

I like to get a little intoxicated and find the different headspaces the drugs provides to be very relaxing and fun. That said, I get a really good calming buzz from a cup of coffee and some particular candy (vespebol) these days.

I used to drink a lot, mostly because it was fun and relaxing to start, then it became habitual. I drink way less now, I like the buzz and mindset I get from a few beers, but I no longer need the escape that drunkenness provides and I've grown to really dislike it. Stopped drinking for a little while, then eased back into it and experimented with it for a few years. I found that for me the cost of drinking increases exponentially per unit and the benefits flattens and become costs after a few units now.

I only have tobacco when someone has rolled a joint with it. Had my first while cigarette at 29, I got a really good nicotine shock from it, which I loved, but my lungs hurt for days afterwards so I'm staying away from tobacco, never tried snus either even though it's pretty huge around here.

Don't really smoke much weed either, but I'll have a puff if someone is offering. I like the buz and calmness it brings.

[–] chunes@lemmy.world 8 points 9 months ago (8 children)

No. Paying money to ingest poison is extremely unappealing

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[–] Kennystillalive@feddit.org 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Smoking: never, it smells awefull.

Drinking: yes, but not regularly and never alone. Most of the time in social situations and when partying.

Drugs: never.

Gambling: I play gacha games.

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

No and no, because I'm Muslim and because both are poison that will literally kill you.

[–] als@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I understand if you don't for religious reasons but both only kill you if done to excess. Yes, they're not healthy things to do but in moderation there's often little harm done. Too much water will literally kill you. My personal view is that we're all gonna die anyway, the world's an absolute mess so I might aswell enjoy the bits I can

[–] NoneOfUrBusiness@fedia.io 6 points 9 months ago (1 children)

but both only kill you if done to excess.

You'd think so but nope! According to WHO (and every other relevant organization), relevant risks increase from the first drop of alcohol, so while smaller amounts are less dangerous even moderate consumption will still literally kill you. Technically moderate consumption has some minor health benefits, but those are canceled out by the risks.

while the greatest risks are seen with heavy long-term use, even low alcohol consumption (defined as less than one drink per day) or moderate consumption (up to two drinks per day for men, and one drink per day for women because they absorb and metabolize it differently) can increase cancer risk. Among women, light drinkers have a four percent increased risk of[breast cancer, while moderate drinkers have a 23 percent increased risk of the disease.

Apparently alcohol kills about 170k+ people a year and causes millions of ER visits in America alone through various mechanisms (this data is an underestimate).

PS: I chose alcohol because it's the more controversial of the two, but everything I said here also applies to smoking.

[–] Brekky@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago (1 children)
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[–] Octavio@lemmy.world 7 points 9 months ago

I started smoking and drinking at 12 because I thought it would make me look cool and developed a pretty bad drinking habit in high school and college. After college it got worse and there were some severe consequences. Finally got sober at 30. I’d been trying to quit smoking for years but would always light up when I’d had a few beers and since that was pretty much all the time, I wasn’t able to quit smoking until I quit drinking.

I haven’t touched either in almost 27 years and I’m so much better off for it.

[–] farngis_mcgiles@sh.itjust.works 7 points 9 months ago (1 children)

i drink cigs and smoke beer

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[–] zwerg@feddit.org 7 points 9 months ago

Smoking no, never. I was a heavy drinker in my teens and 20s, gave that up because I was getting fat (I'm vain, deal with it!). At that time, I started taking MDMA and speed. It was the late 90s, so it was a pretty standard for the rave and alternative scenes at the time. Gave that up when I got Menieres disease in my early 40s. Now I have one drink once or twice a month, but mostly drink plain old water.

[–] Lucelu2@lemmy.zip 7 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (1 children)

I don't think this is unusual for your generation. GenZ seems risk adverse. It is surprising that you all drive before age 18. Many won't actually call somebody or someplace using your voice.

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[–] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 6 points 9 months ago

I'm chronically ill so I can't smoke or drink. But I used to smoke marijuana and drink alcohol. At least at parties or sometimes a glass of wine with dinner. I sometimes miss it but not too much.

Friend of mine is basically like you. Never smoked, never drank except for half a glass of champagne on his 18th birthday. The closest he ever came to real drug use was when we were playing board games with friends in a closed room and three joints were constantly circling the table. At one point he remarked feeling a bit woozy.

But people mostly accept his choice. And even in our most egregious party phases he was constantly one of the last people to leave a party. So it didn't exclude him socially or so.

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

You loose a lot of money and a lot of life expectancy for very little fun and you smell bad after.

Also, you annoy people around you and eventually poison them too

Not worth it.

[–] ameancow@lemmy.world 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Quit self-medication years ago because it's lethal, killed my whole family, and right now we should all be hoarding money to keep it out of the hands of the oligarchs and tyrants trying to seize our land.

Not nearly as much as I once did. I quit dipping about 15 years ago and started drinking a lot less after getting diagnosed and medicated for ADHD.

I do enjoy a good cigar and a glass of Macallan occasionally but that's too expensive to be a regular habit.

[–] brachypelmide@lemmy.zip 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No to both.

No to smoking because it stinks, it's expensive, and it deteriorates everything around you and inside you.

And no to drinking because it has ruined the lives of everyone around me, which in turn partially ruined mine as well.

Polish drinking culture is devastating, even among Gen Z. Lost too many of my friends to alcohol - somehow each and every one of them who started went into a downwards spiral and became a shell of their former self.

My home stopped giving me the feeling of safety as my parents' alcohol-induced fights stripped it away. Same thing happened to my university dorm, as 9 times out of 10 I'd come back to a room that had vomit everywhere and my drunk roommate laying unconscious on the floor.

I don't know if I'm a magnet for these kinds of people or what, but because of that I've been against alcohol ever since I first learned what the word meant.

[–] BryceBassitt@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

No tobacco because ew and no alcohol because headaches

[–] Kolanaki@pawb.social 5 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago) (6 children)

I smoke cigarettes. Because they're fucking addictive and it's hard af to quit.

I smoke weed because it stops me getting anxiety and also makes my thoughts slow down and become quieter so it's not like a crowded room full of people having different conversations talking over each other.

I have drank alcohol, and very rarely still do, but I don't like being drunk. Just like the taste of a white russian or margarita once in a blue moon.

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[–] Bunbury@feddit.nl 5 points 9 months ago

Millennial here. Never smoked, never tempted to either. Don’t like the taste of alcohol unless it’s in deserts, so no temptation there. Tried weed once, also that is not for me. Heck, I even avoid caffeine most days so I don’t build up a tolerance for days when I actually need it.

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.4d2.org 5 points 9 months ago (1 children)

I never smoked. No desire to do so. Too many adverse effects and too expensive compared to psychiatric drugs.

I used to drink a little bit, specifically liqueurs like Disaronno and RumChata. I just liked the taste, honest! Can't drink those anymore because of my meds 😕. Oh well.

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[–] dream_weasel@sh.itjust.works 5 points 9 months ago

Alcohol yes. Less the older I get.

I've got an appreciation for bourbon and wine, so tasting those is pretty enjoyable. I also like a cold beer every now and then if I'm running the grill and it's particularly hot, just not IPAs: I'm not that basic.

Tobacco no. I have tried it, but both my parents are smokers and I don't like the smell.

I'm a millennial.

[–] HEXN3T@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 9 months ago

I smoke nicotine plants maybe once or twice a month ritualistically. It's genuinely nice in moderation (and something only a tiny, tiny minority typically pursue).

As for alcohol, it's GHB but toxic--GHB is better in every single way, no thanks.

[–] Lokoschade@feddit.org 4 points 9 months ago

I have a friend that I smoke a cigarette with at parties (the last time was several years ago so not a common occurrence) and I also have never once bought a pack for myself. If I drink it's only at social occasions and only if they have anything I like (and if it's not too expensive). I smoked my selfgrown weed once the rest I gave to a friend and I'm probably gonna test this years harvest as well. And while we are at it I also took LSD once and I would want to try shrooms one day.

[–] ModernRisk@lemmy.dbzer0.com 4 points 9 months ago

I used to be a social smoker (cigarettes, shisha and randomly a cigar). However, I quit years ago with it.

I once had a thought “we are like a lucifer lighter, isn’t it? We smoke, smoke and smoke. Get all burned up and then throw away our lives because of it”.

At that moment, I told myself; no more. Quit cold-turkey. I never drink alcohol (due to religion).

[–] ChetManly@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

Beer, Wine, Mead, Spirits a couple times a week on average. I am super interesting in alcohol and its production as it pertains to our culture, biology, technology, and frankly our existence today. Fermentation, in general, is truly a cornerstone of us as a species.

[–] Jarix@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Grew up in a house with 3 smokers. I breathed second hand smoke for more than 30 years. (Total, not consecutive)

I won't ever smoke cigarettes, smoke cigars occasionally, (been more than 4 years, but I still have a bunch in my humidor.

I will say that after I finally left that environment, it took about 6 months to realize what cigarettes actual smell like on clothes from the perspective of someone who isn't noseblind to the smell.

Good damn I didn't know how I just have smelled to other people, doing smoke around other people who don't want to be around it please, that caused me more problems than I ever knew

[–] Cracks_InTheWalls@sh.itjust.works 4 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Both. Tobacco (now vape liquid) was a product of extremely misplaced curiosity. If you're young and reading this, fuck your curiosity, fuck what your friends are doing - don't fucking do it. Buy a stress ball if you have that "Well [x moron] smokes when they are stressed, maybe I should try it" thought. Putting aside the health effects (which are reason enough), shit is basically a money hole for idiots and addicts. I really need to try quitting again (just with a lot of prep for the early stage when I want to kill myself and everyone around me).

I like beer and spirits, but I find anything above 3 standard drinks is diminishing returns. I did the 'get dangerously drunk' thing in my teenaged years/very early adulthood. Very happy I grew out of that, shit was getting dark by the end. Have overindulged since and every time, woke up thinking "I should have stopped at 2".

2 beers is a nice, very lucid buzz for me - body relaxation and a bit chattier. 3 is when my motor skills start to soften in a perceivable (though still light) way. Experience has taught me this is a good place to switch to water/non-alc beer/tonic water for the rest of the night (if 'partying', supplemented with some weed.)

Now - a cup of coffee before heading out, 2-3 beers, and some weed? This is generally a good Friday or Saturday night.

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 4 points 9 months ago

Tobacco: no absolutely not, I hate the smell and just don't see the point.

Alcohol: extremely rarely, I have a well stocked bar at home, and used to drink alcohol a few times a month, but in the last few years two things happened.

  1. I got a driving license and a car, I was 35 and got it late. I have a zero tolerance for alcohol and driving, no light beer, nothing, if I am going to drive I will simply not drink any alcohol. And since I got the driving license and car I want to be able to get in the car at any point in case of emergencies and not have to worry about having had alcohol.
  2. I realized that alcohol was just simply annoying to me, I get hot, have trouble sleeping and the next day I am really tired and slow to get going, even after just having drunk a small ammonit. I apparently am a lightweight, and that it perfectly fine, alcohol doesn't mean much to me, so I don't feel like I am missing anything. I like the bottles of alcohol I have so I will save them for a bar shelf that looks cool. I do participate in toasts or celebrations when I know I won't drive, I even have four bottles of cheap champagne with customized ribbons for Trump, Putin, Musk and Orban to toast with when the world is spared their existance, but that is the extent of my alcohol consumption.
[–] Horsey@lemmy.world 4 points 9 months ago

I hate everything about tobacco. Drink? Only specialish occasions.

[–] kbal@fedia.io 3 points 9 months ago

They're both enjoyable, but too addictive for me.

[–] konalt@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Smoking no, alcohol occasionally. Parents are very lax about it so they buy it for me. It's pretty cool.

[–] HobbitFoot@thelemmy.club 3 points 9 months ago

I drink and have never smoked. While parents smoked, there was a push at the time to keep people from starting to smoke. In contrast, drinking was still shown to be a cool thing.

It seems like a lot of younger people have become more sober than before, so it isn't that unusual.

[–] Witchfire@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

I used to drink more during my college years. That and right after was the hardest part of my life, aside from now, but I don't drink as much now.

Joints though, nothing beats the convenience of a nice joint. Good edibles are hard to find, drinks are nice but pricy and rarely less than 10MG, and my herbal vape (not a typical vape) is nice but feels weak. I need to break off of them. I also enjoy rolling them, it's therapeutic.

I'm allergic to cigarette smoke and hate tobacco, thankfully

[–] palordrolap@fedia.io 3 points 9 months ago (1 children)

Late Gen X, practically Millennial here.

My parents expressly forbade me from smoking despite being heavy smokers themselves. They also got that same forbidding from their parents, but I guess it didn't stick with them.

As such, I'm not sure whether that had any influence, or whether it was a natural aversion to the stink and filth of it but I've never smoked. Cost would have also been a big factor that prevented me from getting into it. I never had any money as a kid, and also had no smoker friends, let alone generous smoker friends, so getting a hold of anything to smoke was pretty much impossible.

Stealing from my parents might have been an option, I suppose, but I would not have wanted to face their wrath had I done that.

Alcohol and I do not get along. Too many bad experiences have come about through the combination, and it took far too long for me to learn lessons from it.

Even if I was not on medication that came with the heavy suggestion to avoid alcohol, I would not drink.

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[–] urheber@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 9 months ago

I drink since I'm 12, at least once a week (not quite till blackout ...) because, it's the only legal drug I can take.... Except for Weird stuff from pharmacies, but that's too expensive, and you only trip for 4 hours

[–] commie@lemmy.dbzer0.com 3 points 9 months ago

I use nicotine to self Medicare ADHD..unflavored nicotine pouches.

I like beer, malt liquor, alcopops, bourbon, and gin, too. why? uh.... monkey brain?

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

Both

I take what small pleasures I can from this life.

Based on the way the world is going, I will probably be shot way before lung cancer ever develops.

[–] Zetta@mander.xyz 3 points 9 months ago* (last edited 9 months ago)

Drink occasionally, I vape cannabis flower often. I don't use all that much though, less than 0.35 grams a week usually.

I used to go fucking ham on the weed, but I quit at the beginning of this year, and had the most incredibly horrible withdrawals I could imagine. Literally didn't know you could get withdrawals from THC so bad. I had to take a week off of work. I was dizzy to the point of vomiting if I moved my head at all for two weeks, miserable fucking experience. Anywho now I try to indulge responsibly and take breaks often.

Never smoked tobacco, I would hit my friends nic vapes in high school mostly just try try their flavors, they made their own juice and were big dealers In the school selling it haha.

Why do I get high? Well I suppose I really enjoy the feeling of being in an altered state. It feels different, it feels good. It also helps me a decent bit with OCD symptoms most of the time, although I've read online it makes symptoms worse for some people.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 3 points 9 months ago

No, watched a close relative die a long, slow, painful death from emphysema. Never felt a desire to smoke.

As I've noted elsewhere, my liver doesn't process alcohol correctly so I can't drink either.

[–] IWW4@lemmy.zip 3 points 9 months ago

I drink plenty of booze. My go to is Whiskey and diet coke.

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